A friend was over a couple of days ago and wanted to shoot my 1911. He had shot competitively in the Army with a 1911 and with a revolver as a civilian. He had never shot my gun before. The target was probably about 15 yards away. He was shaking badly due to a shoulder surgery a few years back. The first two shots were with one hand directly in the 10 ring. He said he was hurting to much to continue but I convinced him to try one more. The last shot was with both hands and completed a nice little cluster on the target. It really took me back a notch. I have been practicing on a nearly daily basis and I still can't shoot that good on command. These 3 shots may be the only ones he has fired all year but I will never forget the time he out shot me with my own pistol. I also asked him what he thought of the 10-8 U notch. He said he never noticed it because he wasn't looking at the bottom. I thought that was kind of funny.