This will be my first suppressor purchase. Looking for a suppressor that i can swap from bolt action 223 and 6.5 creedmoor and also AR 223 and 6.5 creed. The HUXWRX cans have peaked my interest and would like to hear from anyone who has used this can or knowledgeable about it. I did do a search but have not come up with much info.
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HUXWRX Ventum 762
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These are pretty new, so there won’t be too many people with hands-on experience with them. For what it’s worth, a flow thru can is not going to be as effective on a bolt gun. For semis, they’re great. Just be advised that if you’re looking for something super quiet on your bolt guns, they’re not for you.
For what my opinion is worth, after watching the limited reviews of the Ventum 762 and having personal experience with other Hux cans, if you want a do it all can that will do great on gas guns and decent on bolt guns, you won’t be disappointed with the Hux. Holy shit that was quite a run-on sentence. With that said, I don’t have any experience with the Omega 300.
I have the older Huxwurx (so OSS) can and some regular old school baffle cans (Griffin 9 and Griffin Bushwacker)
On a semi auto, definitely go with the Huxwurx flow, there is no perceptible bolt velocity change. On a bolt gun it's real hard to hear any difference, on pistols and rimfire I use baffles so I can clean them easier.
I mostly run 20" and longer barrels so that may change things.
On a semi auto, definitely go with the Huxwurx flow, there is no perceptible bolt velocity change. On a bolt gun it's real hard to hear any difference, on pistols and rimfire I use baffles so I can clean them easier.
I mostly run 20" and longer barrels so that may change things.
I run the Omega on gassers with an adjustable gas block - typically Noveski switchblocks - as long as the flow is reduced for suppressed it is fine but if I leave it on regular I get malfunctions from the over gassing
If you don't need the HUB mount, consider the Huxwrx Flow 762. It's quieter than the Ventum. It does exceptionally well on 308, 300 blackout subs and supers and 223/5.56. It's really impressive on my 12.5" 5.56 gas gun, more so than my caliber-specific Sierra 5. Yes, it's a bit more expensive but it's shorter and lighter too. I have it as well as the previous gen 762 Ti can and it's an improvement in sound reduction by a good bit. Works just as well on bolt guns.
Just saw today that pew released data on the polonium .30…the hux flow 762 was quiter at the ear and muzzle on a .308 bolt gun…which is crazy!
I saw the data over on pew for the flow can, seems like it did very well. Most of the info states that the ventum has alittle more back pressure which i thought might make it a little quieter at the muzzle. I am hoping that pew has test results for the ventum in the near future.
I did try the Flow 762 on my 20" 308 bolt gun and it was indeed quiet. I went back and forth between it and the Diligent Defense Enticer S but it required removal of the muzzle device so I could go direct thread (takes a lot of time) with the DD can. Just got in my Huxwrx HUB mounts and converted the Diligent Defense so now I'll be able to swap them back and forth in seconds to really compare. From what I remember, there was a slight tone difference but it didn't seem any louder to me than the standard baffle Diligent Defense can. But that's with ear pro so big disclaimer.
I went to the range today and took 10 rounds of my Sierra 169HPBT hand loads along with my Sig Cross and 20" aftermarket barrel. With the new Huxwrx HUB mount attached to my Diligent Defense Entircer S Ti, I switched between it and the Flow 762, one round each.
Short answer, with ear pro, the DD Enticer S sounds slightly quieter. It's splitting hairs to be sure but the Enticer is quieter without a doubt. I'm not shocked as it's a bit longer and not a low back pressure can with a standard baffle design. It took going back and forth a few times to really perceive the difference.
While my ears aren't calibrated microphones, the difference was perceptible. Being completely honest, this makes me question Pew's data which has the two cans producing almost identical numbers. If I can hear a difference, with ear pro, surely there'd be a larger disparity in data with a precision mic. I have active ear pro but I kept it turned off so I was essentially using foam ear plugs. I was at an indoor range which makes everything louder.
I will say this, the Huxwrx HUB mount is brilliant. It's totally secure while using a minimal amount of torque to attach the suppressor. Super easy to remove even when hot using nothing but hand force. Actually better than their proprietary cans mounted directly to the muzzle device. While I secure those hand tight, I alway use a wrench to remove them. Not necessary with the Hux HUB mount. Unlock it and spin the suppressor off. I can switch between the two suppressors in ten seconds.
If you have a gas gun, there's no question I'd go with the Flow 762. I'll try to do a quick back to back test with 300 blackout subsonic through a gas gun next. The Enticer S was stupid quiet with subs, all I heard was the action cycling. But it was gassy, without a doubt. Intrusively so.
Short answer, with ear pro, the DD Enticer S sounds slightly quieter. It's splitting hairs to be sure but the Enticer is quieter without a doubt. I'm not shocked as it's a bit longer and not a low back pressure can with a standard baffle design. It took going back and forth a few times to really perceive the difference.
While my ears aren't calibrated microphones, the difference was perceptible. Being completely honest, this makes me question Pew's data which has the two cans producing almost identical numbers. If I can hear a difference, with ear pro, surely there'd be a larger disparity in data with a precision mic. I have active ear pro but I kept it turned off so I was essentially using foam ear plugs. I was at an indoor range which makes everything louder.
I will say this, the Huxwrx HUB mount is brilliant. It's totally secure while using a minimal amount of torque to attach the suppressor. Super easy to remove even when hot using nothing but hand force. Actually better than their proprietary cans mounted directly to the muzzle device. While I secure those hand tight, I alway use a wrench to remove them. Not necessary with the Hux HUB mount. Unlock it and spin the suppressor off. I can switch between the two suppressors in ten seconds.
If you have a gas gun, there's no question I'd go with the Flow 762. I'll try to do a quick back to back test with 300 blackout subsonic through a gas gun next. The Enticer S was stupid quiet with subs, all I heard was the action cycling. But it was gassy, without a doubt. Intrusively so.
It does. I've tested it on my Sig Spear LT 300 blackout and the Diligent Defense would have me just about ready to pass out from excessive gas after 20 rounds of subsonic ammo. I don't miss a beat with the Flow on it. Night and day difference. I'll have to compare 308 supers with my 16" gas gun as well, haven't tried that yet.
Tested 300 blackout subs and supers today with both suppressors. I still think the Enticer is slightly quieter with subs but the tone is different which may be affecting my perception. The Flow seemed to have a deeper tone that could be heard under the noise of the gun cycling where I didn't hear it as much with the Enticer S. I was wearing ear pro and I couldn't pop one out as I was at a very busy public range.
My Sig LT is definitely over gassed. Locked the bolt back on the minus gas setting, supers, subs, Flow 762 or Enticer S. Didn't matter what combo. Kicks like a mule with supers.
My Sig LT is definitely over gassed. Locked the bolt back on the minus gas setting, supers, subs, Flow 762 or Enticer S. Didn't matter what combo. Kicks like a mule with supers.
On the DI AR15 w/ SA AGB, the Ventum 762 shooting 5.56 felt like a 22LR and I didn't even need to tune for it. Night/day difference from recoil and gas versus traditional baffle cans. I even tuned the SA AGB for suppressors when running K-cans like the Resonator K and Polonium, and while they ejected at 4:00 there was still a LOT of gas. The Ventum 762 on the non-suppressed setting for the SA AGB would result in 4:00 ejection, softer recoil, and far far less gas. My mags weren't soaked in carbon/gunk either.
On my 300WM bolt guns, I've tested the big cans like Resonator R2, Omega 300, OCL Hydrogen, and TBAC Magnus. The Omega 300, R2, and Magnus had the most noticeable recoil reduction but the Omega 300 shot the tightest/most consistent groups. Worst was the R2.
I planned to try the Ventum 762 on it, but seeing the video posted above it didn't seem like there was much recoil reduction - which was the primary reason to suppress my 300WM. I'd still give it a try though.
On my 300WM bolt guns, I've tested the big cans like Resonator R2, Omega 300, OCL Hydrogen, and TBAC Magnus. The Omega 300, R2, and Magnus had the most noticeable recoil reduction but the Omega 300 shot the tightest/most consistent groups. Worst was the R2.
I planned to try the Ventum 762 on it, but seeing the video posted above it didn't seem like there was much recoil reduction - which was the primary reason to suppress my 300WM. I'd still give it a try though.
I did a bit of a non-planned test yesterday. I had my Sierra 5 on the DI 16" rifle but needed to shoot the same round out of the 12.5" piston POF to get velocity readings. I'd done quite a few rounds and the Sierra was hot enough I had to let it cool to get it off. Not wanting to waste time, I swapped the Flow 762 onto the 12.5" and my POI was WAY off. Eventually the Sierra 5 cooled off enough where I was able to remove it and swap it over to the 12.5". The POI returned to where I'd had it previously.
I tested the Flow 762 vs. the Diligent Defense Enticer S ti for POI shift and there was nothing between the two worth mentioning. Not so with the Sierra 5. Next outing, I'll need to see how much of a shift there is with each, can on vs. can off. There's always been a shift with the Huxwrx cans but it isn't outrageous.
I still don't have my Radical Defense CS3 in-hand yet but expecting great things. I guess the trusts are "normal" wait times still.
I tested the Flow 762 vs. the Diligent Defense Enticer S ti for POI shift and there was nothing between the two worth mentioning. Not so with the Sierra 5. Next outing, I'll need to see how much of a shift there is with each, can on vs. can off. There's always been a shift with the Huxwrx cans but it isn't outrageous.
I still don't have my Radical Defense CS3 in-hand yet but expecting great things. I guess the trusts are "normal" wait times still.
I use the Rearden/Plan B muzzle attachment. I run almost all 17-4 SS Reardens, so they all tend to walk loose when hot, so I re-tighten after a few shots. Only exception are the Titanium Rearden Atlas mounts that I have to avoid getting too tight, otherwise they won't come off at the range. Apparently Garand Thumb and I are the only people on the Internet that have constant issues with taper mount suppressor devices walk loose while shooting.
There was zero shift in POI with my Ventum 762 at 100 yd using 55gr PMC Bronze and 10.5" AR15 (SA AGB), and I swapped between 10 different suppressors on the same day with the same ammo. Chrono data was unremarkable.
I don't have a Sierra 5, but I have the AAC Ranger 5, Polonium, YHM T2, Gemtech Shield (S&W Shield), and a bunch of other 556 specific cans and they were all pretty much spot-on.
Biggest noticeable difference is that even with the shortest K-can with the highest flow and traditional baffles (Resonator K), there is still considerable more gas backpressure than a flow-through suppressor. Pew science rated the Resonator K about the same as a Huxwrx/OSS Flow 762 for backpressure, but I think Jay's metric is either theoretical or mathematical. While the Resonator K on an untuned AR has 2:00 ejection (vs 1:00 ejection with all other cans), even fully tuned it still had more gas than the Ventum 762 on an untuned AR - if that makes sense.
There was zero shift in POI with my Ventum 762 at 100 yd using 55gr PMC Bronze and 10.5" AR15 (SA AGB), and I swapped between 10 different suppressors on the same day with the same ammo. Chrono data was unremarkable.
I don't have a Sierra 5, but I have the AAC Ranger 5, Polonium, YHM T2, Gemtech Shield (S&W Shield), and a bunch of other 556 specific cans and they were all pretty much spot-on.
Biggest noticeable difference is that even with the shortest K-can with the highest flow and traditional baffles (Resonator K), there is still considerable more gas backpressure than a flow-through suppressor. Pew science rated the Resonator K about the same as a Huxwrx/OSS Flow 762 for backpressure, but I think Jay's metric is either theoretical or mathematical. While the Resonator K on an untuned AR has 2:00 ejection (vs 1:00 ejection with all other cans), even fully tuned it still had more gas than the Ventum 762 on an untuned AR - if that makes sense.
Any updates on flash suppression for the ventum 7.62? I have heard it's sparky by some and not flashy by others.
I see fireballs in broad daylight outdoors. It's like Jubilee from the Xmen blasting away with the sparks.
Mine is new and I've been concerned after all the complaints regarding flash. I shot several times the other night at pigs and didn't notice any flash. This was shooting a Tac 30 (30x6.8). I need to try it with 308 and 223 as the results may vary.
My ventum is still in jail - my oss 762 on a .223 under nods has a very noticeable flash for the first 2 or 3 rounds but is nil after that..
I have videos of the following at night. 3 shots each.
1) 308 with Ventum.
2) 308 YHM Phantom Ti
3) 223 Ventum.
If someone can tell me how to upload videos, I will post these.
1) 308 with Ventum.
2) 308 YHM Phantom Ti
3) 223 Ventum.
If someone can tell me how to upload videos, I will post these.
Make a YouTube account. Upload there. Then post a link in a thread. The forum software automatically displays you video.
AFAIK, you cannot upload a video directly up into the forum.
My guess is mounting setup might have something to do with it. The suppressor is very effective, but being a HUB thread there are a lot more variables to account for as far as initial gas velocities and directions.
could be from Ti muzzle devices, or particularly aggressive brakes that also function as adapters?
That's a great point. I am using Rearden FHD with Rearden Atlas.
Also different loads/powders can have an impact.
In the videos above the Ventum 762 was direct threaded on both the 308 and 223. The Phantom was of course mounted on YHM's proprietary mount flash hider, not the brake. Would there be any advantage to adding a the YHM hub adaptor and using either the YHM flash hider or brake? I have accumulated several of them. I'm not really wanting to add weight, length, and possible failure points though.
