I made a stock

[Ledzep]

I posted a couple pics earlier in a different section but figured maybe some folks would like to see how this came together. I think the idea started brewing after someone posted a thread about which rifles look the best. I've always been a huge fan of nice walnut, and go for the M52C/D, Pre-64 M70 target stocks, CG-63's, and dig the L42a1 look... So I mulled it over and found www.cookwoods.com one day and started looking through their selection of gun blanks... Then mulled it over a bit more and called American Rifle Co. and asked (I'm sure to their bemusement) if they had any scrap/prototype XYLO chassis I could buy for cheap to use for a mini-chassis in a wood stock. Turns out they had one and we were able to work out a deal so I pulled the trigger on a $650 Claro walnut blank and got after it... Luckily I have access to an old manual mill and was able to borrow enough tooling to make this not an entirely heinous effort, but I will definitely NOT be doing this professionally... A once-every-5-years kind of pain that takes a while to forget

For pretty much all of the exterior and detail work that wasn't done in the mill, I used files, chisels, and rasps because I've watched people irrecoverably burn up $500-800 blanks on a belt sander... Wasn't in the mood to go there. This is the first time I've done one of these so pretty much every step spiked the anxiety meter...

Okay picture dump... this may take a few posts.

Sacrilege:

Some small amount of milling and filing later... An ARC Mini-chassis!

The chunk of wood and the plan...

First terrifying cuts out of the way...

Cleaning up some surfaces to mount it in two vices on the mill for the inlet.

Inletting:
Decked the entire top surface to make it all flat/square. Barrel channel inlet mostly completed with a 1" ball endmill. The rest was 3/8 and 1/2" squares to make room for the mini-chassis.

Begin the file-work.... Some shapes not going to happen on a manual mill.

Some stuff is easy mill work, though

More Filing... Cut and check, cut and check..

Some rough shaping knocked out. I slabbed about 3/8" off each side to get close to final width before hitting it with rasps/files. I didn't really have a clear picture of what to do for the grip, so I just kept cutting it away until it fit my hand. Felt where it would contact my hand first, then remove that material until basically my entire palm hit all at once.

A lot more filing and shaping..... Had a buddy cerakote the mini-chassis and I believe by this point I had it epoxied into the stock. Butt-plate fitting was fun (not..). Kinda at the 90% done, 90% to go stage.

More to come...

 

[Ledzep]

Handguard beginning
Fits a 1903a3 retainer.

Unfortunately I didn't take many more pictures of the process... Made the handguard and fit an 03a3 barrel band to hold the front end.

Here's some QD flush cups going on. These eventually got SS escutcheons on the back side epoxied in.

First coat of oil.

And how it sits now...

 

[Estes640]

Nicely done! Love the way the handgaurd looks on the finished product.

 

[pmclaine]

Awesome job.

What did you finish it with?

 

[Ledzep]

Tung oil! I was thinking boiled linseed but the wood was already so dark I didn't want to hide figure.

 

[Rocketmandb]

Very nice.

 

[pmclaine]

Tung oil! I was thinking boiled linseed but the wood was already so dark I didn't want to hide figure.

I love both but certainly linseed can go dark.

Got a stock I’ll be needing to do soon…..

 

[Huskydriver]

Boss

 

[theLBC]

cool!

 

[phlegethon]

Really nice work, must be very satisfying.

 

[338dude]

Artwork !!!

 

[Keeper22]

Congratulations! Looks great!

 

[deepsix++]

that's awsome , real American spirit of do it yourself .

 

[moosemeat]

This is awesome. Love how you used the ARC chassis as a mini chassis to make it work.

 

[Bigfatcock]

Awesome!

 

[brianf]

excellent work...better than i could do for sure

funny, "old school" wood stock looks weird with a carbon barrel...i did a double take

you expect a pencil blued

 

[acudaowner]

I love almost any diy project , that shows tons of creativity and skill when finished . And you should be extreamly proud of what you made with your own two hands it's pretty .

 

[Bigfatcock]

I absolutely love the hand guard. Something different than usual, and it really makes the set up, to me. Not saying it would not be great without the hand guard, but now that I’ve seen it on there, it would look like b’dussy without it!

 

[Fig]

Beautiful work. For future reference, this is the magic compound that magnifies the figure in wood and makes it pop before final finishing. Mix in water, brush on, let dry, and every tiny line pops like it was a $20k burl.

 

[Haney]

Fantastic job , that is a beauty .

 

[Bigfatcock]

View attachment 7917461Beautiful work. For future reference, this is the magic compound that magnifies the figure in wood and makes it pop before final finishing. Mix in water, brush on, let dry, and every tiny line pops like it was a $20k burl.

Good stuff to have around.

 

[Fig]

I bought it for a Kentucky rifle project I’ve never started…

 

[Bigfatcock]

I bought it for a Kentucky rifle project I’ve never started…

Essentially the same results as using Aqua Fortis.

 

[357Max]

The stock looks fantastic. I can tell you spent a lot of time on the grip area.

There’s only 1 thing missing.
Icing I know but the Xylo level that pops out the side of a wood stock would Be tits. Looks like you retained that section of the chassis.

 

[Jumper]

Great work! That took a lot of guys to hack off that Xylo chassis!

 

[ddavis]

I've made a stock in a similar fashion from an ash tree I milled. FYI Whidden makes a mini chassis that's made for just this sort of thing but they aren't very good at machining things so def check it well before you epoxy it in. I had to send in the first one for a replacement. Also, give "Pro Custom Oil" a try. Brownells carries it. I think it's mostly Tung oil with some driers. It works very well. As a test I used it on a kitchen knife I made and I've used it nearly every day for about 2 years and it's still holding up like the day(s) I applied it.

I LOVE the upper handguard. It's very CG63-esque. Beautiful work.

-Dan

 

[ohiofarmer]

That looks very nice. What did you chamber it in? I‘m curious if it’s comfortable with the steel buttplate? Or, perhaps the weight and Area 419 brake are to thank?

 

[Fig]

Essentially the same results as using Aqua Fortis.

Except AF still has a ton of acid in it, and once you’re done staining most people then rub the stock with baking soda to neutralize the acid so it doesn’t rust the barreled action that will eventually sit in it. The FeNO3 is neutral, and you don’t have to worry about low Ph. You can also safely mix it with alcohol so it dries really fast.
‘But, you are correct. Same (or very similar) results.

 

[Bender]

This was easy to fap too

 

[Fig]

To, or too?

 

[jakelly]

This was easy to fap to.

This was easy to fap to, too.

This was too easy to fap to.

Couple options here…

 

[Dough300]

Impressive!

 

[iceng]

Nice work. Mini chassis into a stock. Full free floated ? Also would have put a limbsaver pad on it...

 

[Ledzep]

Thanks all!

Yes, it's fully free floating under the handguard. It's chambered in 6.5 creedmoor. The way it's set up with the rear retaining band I have a .100" spacer that's 1.35" diameter between the barrel and receiver. It lets me run tl3 prefits in the mausingfield.

The butt plate is from a '98 Mauser and the flat Mauser plates have always fit me well. In 6.5cm with the 419 brake it's comfortable. A thin limbsaver would probably be better but I worry about longevity. Probably not worth worrying about.

Good tip on the FeNO3. I'll look into that. There are a few things that I might eventually touch up or change but I'm happy with it for now. Gonna get some use out of it. It's right under 12lb as pictured so I'm going to do some NRL hunter comps with it.

 

[Barelstroker]

Thanks all!

Yes, it's fully free floating under the handguard. It's chambered in 6.5 creedmoor. The way it's set up with the rear retaining band I have a .100" spacer that's 1.35" diameter between the barrel and receiver. It lets me run tl3 prefits in the mausingfield.

The butt plate is from a '98 Mauser and the flat Mauser plates have always fit me well. In 6.5cm with the 419 brake it's comfortable. A thin limbsaver would probably be better but I worry about longevity. Probably not worth worrying about.

Good tip on the FeNO3. I'll look into that. There are a few things that I might eventually touch up or change but I'm happy with it for now. Gonna get some use out of it. It's right under 12lb as pictured so I'm going to do some NRL hunter comps with it.

Sheeeit Boy, I'm impressed.
Very nice job indeed. I really like the forend hand guard. Reminiscent of the old Mausers which I've always liked the look of. I like what you've done with the butt stock & pistol grip, functional but classy for that kinda stock.
Excellent job, really glad it turned out for you.

 

[brianf]

Thanks all!

Yes, it's fully free floating under the handguard. It's chambered in 6.5 creedmoor. The way it's set up with the rear retaining band I have a .100" spacer that's 1.35" diameter between the barrel and receiver. It lets me run tl3 prefits in the mausingfield.

The butt plate is from a '98 Mauser and the flat Mauser plates have always fit me well. In 6.5cm with the 419 brake it's comfortable. A thin limbsaver would probably be better but I worry about longevity. Probably not worth worrying about.

Good tip on the FeNO3. I'll look into that. There are a few things that I might eventually touch up or change but I'm happy with it for now. Gonna get some use out of it. It's right under 12lb as pictured so I'm going to do some NRL hunter comps with it.

It’s funny how you like the Mauser plate…the most uncomfortable rifle I have is a 1933 matching Mauser.

I swear that’s why they lost the war…no one wanted to shoot it

 

[just browsing]

Awesome work! Looks great. Be sure to give a range report once you shoot it a bit.

Also, while it may take away some of the nostalgic look, the KMW Loggerhead hardware would be right at home there if you wanted adjustable cheek weld.

Function and form.

 

[Ledzep]

It’s funny how you like the Mauser plate…the most uncomfortable rifle I have is a 1933 matching Mauser.

I swear that’s why they lost the war…no one wanted to shoot it

I grew up shooting a lot of the old milsurps and the only ones I specifically remember for pain is the 1903. The damn corner on those is brutal especially prone.

As far as comb adjustment, I have it fairly high on this as-is. Basically where most "medium" rings put things right in line. The bore centerline extends straight back to the top of the comb. If, down the road, I decide to put something with a 56mm objective I might have to reconsider. There are enough 40-50mm objectives out there I think I'll be okay, though. I think I'll probably end up with a 4-16 ATACR F1 on it some day.

Hopefully will get some time to do some load work for it in the next week or two. It shoots Hornady 147 match ammo about .8 MOA for 10 shots which is not horrible but I'm going to try a few different things to see if there's not a little better to be had.

 

[Forward543]

That is badass. Nice job. I feel your pain on not doing this for a job.

 

[f100cleveland]

Great job!! That thing looks amazing!!!!

 

[Oryx_Official]

looks slick

 

[Baron23]

Good tip on the FeNO3. I'll look into that. There are a few things that I might eventually touch up or change but I'm happy with it for now. Gonna get some use out of it. It's right under 12lb as pictured so I'm going to do some NRL hunter comps with it.

Dunno about FeNO3 but if you get a hankering to bring out figuring in wood, consider going old school w alconet root infused oil.

alkanet root gunstocks - Google Search

www.google.com

 

[Bigfatcock]

Oils will bring out the figure if it’s there. Colored oils, stains, dyes are for coloring. Only time I use stains or colored stuff is if I have to blend sapwood (gross) or if using kiln dried walnut.

Kiln dried walnut is purple and needs some orange, red, brown, and maybe some yellow to make it look like air dried walnut.

 

[Baron23]

Well, we all have differing views and opinions....what else is new! haha

These are alkanet root oil finish stocks made with very high grade walnut and to my eye they are perfect and that dark figuring is dramatically brought out by the alkanet infused oil.

 

[Bigfatcock]

Well, we all have differing views and opinions....what else is new! haha

These are alkanet root oil finish stocks made with very high grade walnut and to my eye they are perfect and that dark figuring is dramatically brought out by the alkanet infused oil.

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Beautiful.

 

[wildcats]

That stock looks fucking SICK! great job man.

 

[Bigfatcock]

Well, we all have differing views and opinions....what else is new! haha

These are alkanet root oil finish stocks made with very high grade walnut and to my eye they are perfect and that dark figuring is dramatically brought out by the alkanet infused oil.

View attachment 7919352

Beautiful.

These are English walnut and will be a similar reddish/color once oil is applied.

This is air dried claro walnut with just mineral spirits applied:

I love nice wood (no homo)

I pull grain and chatoyance by doing a multi-step finish. I start with several coats of thinned finish until it gets a slight build. Then I’ll use stronger coats as needed depending on what look I’m after. Personally, I prefer high gloss like your beautiful gun stocks!

 

[Baron23]

Beautiful.

These are English walnut and will be a similar reddish/color once oil is applied.

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This is air dried claro walnut with just mineral spirits applied:
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I love nice wood (no homo)

I pull grain and chatoyance by doing a multi-step finish. I start with several coats of thinned finish until it gets a slight build. Then I’ll use stronger coats as needed depending on what look I’m after. Personally, I prefer high gloss like your beautiful gun stocks!

Oh no, those guns are not mine. I couldn’t possibly afford that pair. But they are an example of Alkanet infused oil finish and a look that I like very much.

These are mine, however. And yes, neither are infused oil finished! Lol

 

[dzeke]

I saw this thread a while back and was really impressed by the finished stock. Then I just heard you talking about it on the hornady podcast. Pretty sweet! Excellent work!

 

[Ledzep]

Thanks! Ended up cutting some finger grooves and took it to the NRL Hunter championship and placed 3rd in Open Light and 5th overall.