How good is it? I am buying a stock new rifle. What do I need to get it 800 yards ready? And anymore info would be apreciated.
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i need opinions on a 700 Pss
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Re: i need opinions on a 700 Pss
It's better than 90% of the shooters out there.
It needs a scope, rings, bases and of course ammo. Something in the 175gr match variety.
Warm up the search engine, grab some coffee and start reading. More than likely any question you are about to ask has been discussed at length.
It's better than 90% of the shooters out there.
It needs a scope, rings, bases and of course ammo. Something in the 175gr match variety.
Warm up the search engine, grab some coffee and start reading. More than likely any question you are about to ask has been discussed at length.
Re: i need opinions on a 700 Pss
LoneWolf pretty much told you right. You can buy a 700 Police .308 and have fun. If you want to reload for that caliber, this forum has tons of info. The scope, base, rings, bipod, etc., is up to you. All personal preference.
LoneWolf pretty much told you right. You can buy a 700 Police .308 and have fun. If you want to reload for that caliber, this forum has tons of info. The scope, base, rings, bipod, etc., is up to you. All personal preference.
Re: i need opinions on a 700 Pss
What LoneWolf said....only add, get the best glass you can afford.
What LoneWolf said....only add, get the best glass you can afford.
Re: i need opinions on a 700 Pss
I had one that eventually made its way to GAP. I put about 2k through it prior to sending it in. It is a great value. The single biggest thing I can say - record the POI differences in your log book - Cold and Clean, Cold and Dirty, Hot and Fouled. For me (and from memory) it was on the order of 2 MOA low, 1 MOA right between CC and HF. Sending it to GAP made them all one in the same.
Good luck
I had one that eventually made its way to GAP. I put about 2k through it prior to sending it in. It is a great value. The single biggest thing I can say - record the POI differences in your log book - Cold and Clean, Cold and Dirty, Hot and Fouled. For me (and from memory) it was on the order of 2 MOA low, 1 MOA right between CC and HF. Sending it to GAP made them all one in the same.
Good luck
Re: i need opinions on a 700 Pss
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bdh308</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Alot of bang for the buck if you know what I mean. </div></div>I hear that's what she said.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bdh308</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Alot of bang for the buck if you know what I mean. </div></div>I hear that's what she said.
Re: i need opinions on a 700 Pss
Plenty good enough. I've enjoyed mine and the others I've seen shoot well too.
Had trouble getting comfortable on the stock and installed one of those Karsten cheek pieces that allow you to adjust the stock height to fit. That helped alot.
If you don't reload yet consider getting Federal GMM and concentrate on shooting for awhile instead of reloading.
Like prev posters said - get a GOOD scope, rings, and base. Get a Harris bipod. And get after it.
Getting out to 800 ( and longer) won't be a problem. If you can get your round chrono'd you can use that and most any of the ballistic programs to predict trajectory. Or use one of the available charts for the 175. PM me if you need help with that.
Good luck and have fun.
Plenty good enough. I've enjoyed mine and the others I've seen shoot well too.
Had trouble getting comfortable on the stock and installed one of those Karsten cheek pieces that allow you to adjust the stock height to fit. That helped alot.
If you don't reload yet consider getting Federal GMM and concentrate on shooting for awhile instead of reloading.
Like prev posters said - get a GOOD scope, rings, and base. Get a Harris bipod. And get after it.
Getting out to 800 ( and longer) won't be a problem. If you can get your round chrono'd you can use that and most any of the ballistic programs to predict trajectory. Or use one of the available charts for the 175. PM me if you need help with that.
Good luck and have fun.
Re: i need opinions on a 700 Pss
I just bought a PSS recently and I'm pretty excited about seeing how it does. Mine was used, but it had been trued/blueprinted, match rechambered with a .340 neck, recrowned, and the stocks been bedded. It's supposed to be a solid 1/2" gun or better with the handloads that I'll be using. I think for the money they are good guns, but for a new one off the shelf I don't think there is much difference in the PSS and the SPS other than the aluminum bedded HS stock. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Get a good 20moa base and a quality set of rings. I'm a varible power guy when it comes to scopes. You don't have to drop $1k or more on a scope if it's not in your budget. You can get a nikon buckmaster 6-18x44 or a Vortex viper, or even a Falcon Menace. If you can afford a Nightforce or a S&B then get one, but it's not required to shoot 1K yards.
I just bought a PSS recently and I'm pretty excited about seeing how it does. Mine was used, but it had been trued/blueprinted, match rechambered with a .340 neck, recrowned, and the stocks been bedded. It's supposed to be a solid 1/2" gun or better with the handloads that I'll be using. I think for the money they are good guns, but for a new one off the shelf I don't think there is much difference in the PSS and the SPS other than the aluminum bedded HS stock. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Get a good 20moa base and a quality set of rings. I'm a varible power guy when it comes to scopes. You don't have to drop $1k or more on a scope if it's not in your budget. You can get a nikon buckmaster 6-18x44 or a Vortex viper, or even a Falcon Menace. If you can afford a Nightforce or a S&B then get one, but it's not required to shoot 1K yards.
Re: i need opinions on a 700 Pss
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 308crosshairs</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
What LoneWolf said....only add, get the best glass you can afford. </div></div>
Even better, get the best glass you can't afford. Buy once, cry once.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 308crosshairs</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
What LoneWolf said....only add, get the best glass you can afford. </div></div>
Even better, get the best glass you can't afford. Buy once, cry once.
Re: i need opinions on a 700 Pss
My first LR rifle was and still is a PSS. The best advice I got was from the great people here:
Keep it stock to start with. Tune it up with a trigger job, true the action, and bed the stock.
Welllll, things didn't quite go that way, but a McMillan A5 stock was added on, and a US Optics ST-10 with a USO mounting system from JBWII(John III's Pop). The guys at McMillan did a hell of job on it, and it shoots way better than me most of the time, but it has always been good enough to put me in top ten, or top twenty in competition when I had time to enter such fun.
The rifle is a 1/2MOA gun out of the box. On a good day, it will print 1/4MOA groups at 100M.
Here's your load for it:
Win Case, 210/M primer, 45gr Varget, compressed with a 175SMK.
The beauty of this load is that with a 180gr SGK your scope dope only changes .03MOA, or nothing to raise a fuss about out to 500M.
Get the PSS. Shoot the hell out of it. Then put the action into a nice stock if you haven't done it right quick, and rebarrel it with a custom tube.
IF you find you do not like it after you get it and you keep it OEM with a minor tuning, you aren't out a whoile lot, and it is a easy rifle to sell...if you're into to selling your guns
My first LR rifle was and still is a PSS. The best advice I got was from the great people here:
Keep it stock to start with. Tune it up with a trigger job, true the action, and bed the stock.
Welllll, things didn't quite go that way, but a McMillan A5 stock was added on, and a US Optics ST-10 with a USO mounting system from JBWII(John III's Pop). The guys at McMillan did a hell of job on it, and it shoots way better than me most of the time, but it has always been good enough to put me in top ten, or top twenty in competition when I had time to enter such fun.
The rifle is a 1/2MOA gun out of the box. On a good day, it will print 1/4MOA groups at 100M.
Here's your load for it:
Win Case, 210/M primer, 45gr Varget, compressed with a 175SMK.
The beauty of this load is that with a 180gr SGK your scope dope only changes .03MOA, or nothing to raise a fuss about out to 500M.
Get the PSS. Shoot the hell out of it. Then put the action into a nice stock if you haven't done it right quick, and rebarrel it with a custom tube.
IF you find you do not like it after you get it and you keep it OEM with a minor tuning, you aren't out a whoile lot, and it is a easy rifle to sell...if you're into to selling your guns
Re: i need opinions on a 700 Pss
I bought one of the first in the very early 90s (I think it was made in the late 80s) and it was truely awsome. I put over 4000 rounds through it and it was very accurate, not the most accurate but consistant as hell. It would hold 1/2-9/16 moa all day hot or cold dirty or clean. I shot it alot and it just got better. I would highly recomend one to a first timer or someone on a budget, get the best gall you can afford or better!
I bought one of the first in the very early 90s (I think it was made in the late 80s) and it was truely awsome. I put over 4000 rounds through it and it was very accurate, not the most accurate but consistant as hell. It would hold 1/2-9/16 moa all day hot or cold dirty or clean. I shot it alot and it just got better. I would highly recomend one to a first timer or someone on a budget, get the best gall you can afford or better!
Re: i need opinions on a 700 Pss
I am writing all the info you all have given me. I plan to hopefully have it in two weeks. I have it on the lay-a-way plan. Don't laugh.
I am writing all the info you all have given me. I plan to hopefully have it in two weeks. I have it on the lay-a-way plan. Don't laugh.
Re: i need opinions on a 700 Pss
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Graham</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bdh308</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Alot of bang for the buck if you know what I mean. </div></div>I hear that's what she said.
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Thats exactly what I meant.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Graham</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bdh308</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Alot of bang for the buck if you know what I mean. </div></div>I hear that's what she said.
Thats exactly what I meant.
Re: i need opinions on a 700 Pss
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Graham</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
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I'll get you Graham and your little dog too.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Graham</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
I'll get you Graham and your little dog too.
Re: i need opinions on a 700 Pss
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Daltexmex</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Graham</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
</div></div>I'll get you Graham and your little dog too.</div></div>LOL! I ain't scared: you don't even have a rifle yet.
I say: pull out the credit card and do it tomorrow.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Daltexmex</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Graham</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
I say: pull out the credit card and do it tomorrow.
Re: i need opinions on a 700 Pss
i got a accurized Red rider. You dont want me to get behind that one. i get 4" groups at 25'.
i got a accurized Red rider. You dont want me to get behind that one. i get 4" groups at 25'.
Re: i need opinions on a 700 Pss
I had a PSS and it was a consistant 1 MOA gun. More often it tended to shoot 1/2 to 3/4 Moa, but I knew that it was good to go for 1 minute. Looking back though I wish I would have bought the LTR. I kept the action and got some work done on by Predator Custom shop and now it's a consistant 1/2 moa gun with factory ammo. Just get that 20 MOA base so you don't spend money twice I learned it the hard way, LOL.
I had a PSS and it was a consistant 1 MOA gun. More often it tended to shoot 1/2 to 3/4 Moa, but I knew that it was good to go for 1 minute. Looking back though I wish I would have bought the LTR. I kept the action and got some work done on by Predator Custom shop and now it's a consistant 1/2 moa gun with factory ammo. Just get that 20 MOA base so you don't spend money twice I learned it the hard way, LOL.
Re: i need opinions on a 700 Pss
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Graham</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Daltexmex</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Graham</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
</div></div>I'll get you Graham and your little dog too.</div></div>LOL! I ain't scared: you don't even have a rifle yet.
I say: pull out the credit card and do it tomorrow. </div></div>
Oh you will like this. in my room at the monent i have
ar10
ar15
.22 marlin
rossi .243
glock 19
arsenal inc ak47
custon 700 .308
ar15 ss heavy barrel .223
I might be missing one
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Graham</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Daltexmex</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Graham</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
I say: pull out the credit card and do it tomorrow. </div></div>
Oh you will like this. in my room at the monent i have
ar10
ar15
.22 marlin
rossi .243
glock 19
arsenal inc ak47
custon 700 .308
ar15 ss heavy barrel .223
I might be missing one
Re: i need opinions on a 700 Pss
right out of the box, they are better than most shooters. quality scope and base first. then try bedding, trigger, and so on. try these one at a time to see the difference in each. you won't be disappointed.
right out of the box, they are better than most shooters. quality scope and base first. then try bedding, trigger, and so on. try these one at a time to see the difference in each. you won't be disappointed.
Re: i need opinions on a 700 Pss
i am gonna try to feed it sierra 175gr smk's with varget powder see how i do.
i am gonna try to feed it sierra 175gr smk's with varget powder see how i do.
Re: i need opinions on a 700 Pss
That rifle should really like 175gr SMK's with about 43gr of RE15.
That rifle should really like 175gr SMK's with about 43gr of RE15.
Re: i need opinions on a 700 Pss
The Rem Police 700 is good weapon. How rifle of grieat production there are good and not good bore. I'm lucky, my bore is great and shoot very well.
I put the link of a test that I have done with 180 hpbt (Sierra bullet): http://www.italiangallinagoshooting.org/...7&Itemid=34 That day I was surely fortunate, but it's an idea of the potential. In the LR the Sierra 168 hpbts over the 500 mt underline problems of stability (Bryan Litz docet), very better the 175. In my Rem 700 Police the Federal 175 golds matches go to 816 m/secs.
Good fun
The Rem Police 700 is good weapon. How rifle of grieat production there are good and not good bore. I'm lucky, my bore is great and shoot very well.
I put the link of a test that I have done with 180 hpbt (Sierra bullet): http://www.italiangallinagoshooting.org/...7&Itemid=34 That day I was surely fortunate, but it's an idea of the potential. In the LR the Sierra 168 hpbts over the 500 mt underline problems of stability (Bryan Litz docet), very better the 175. In my Rem 700 Police the Federal 175 golds matches go to 816 m/secs.
Good fun
Re: i need opinions on a 700 Pss
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LoneWolfUSMC</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It's better than 90% of the shooters out there.
It needs a scope, rings, bases and of course ammo. Something in the 175gr match variety.
Warm up the search engine, grab some coffee and start reading. More than likely any question you are about to ask has been discussed at length. </div></div>
+1 to that ^^^^^. My first comp rifle was a PSS. Best bang for the buck, as also stated above. Trigger job, 20 MOA base, and some good glass ( get the best you can afford.) , and shoot the shit out of it. Great rifle to learn and build on.
You will have no probs getting out to 800yds with 175 SMK's and Vargay or RL15. You can also try H4895 & 155 Lapua Scenar's.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LoneWolfUSMC</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It's better than 90% of the shooters out there.
It needs a scope, rings, bases and of course ammo. Something in the 175gr match variety.
Warm up the search engine, grab some coffee and start reading. More than likely any question you are about to ask has been discussed at length. </div></div>
+1 to that ^^^^^. My first comp rifle was a PSS. Best bang for the buck, as also stated above. Trigger job, 20 MOA base, and some good glass ( get the best you can afford.) , and shoot the shit out of it. Great rifle to learn and build on.
You will have no probs getting out to 800yds with 175 SMK's and Vargay or RL15. You can also try H4895 & 155 Lapua Scenar's.
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Would you guys say the PSS is similar to the SPS tactical? How about accurate wise?
What do you get for the extra $$ that the PSS goes for?
Would you guys say the PSS is similar to the SPS tactical? How about accurate wise?
What do you get for the extra $$ that the PSS goes for?
Re: i need opinions on a 700 Pss
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Monger0317</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Would you guys say the PSS is similar to the SPS tactical? How about accurate wise?
What do you get for the extra $$ that the PSS goes for?</div></div>
Same action and barrel making process (the sps tac is 20" and pss is 24 or 26")
The stock is what you're paying for. If you get and sps tactical just plan on replacing the stock, if getting a pss you can shoot as is. If you know you want a detachable mag and McMillan or Manners stock, then start with the sps tactical.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Monger0317</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Would you guys say the PSS is similar to the SPS tactical? How about accurate wise?
What do you get for the extra $$ that the PSS goes for?</div></div>
Same action and barrel making process (the sps tac is 20" and pss is 24 or 26")
The stock is what you're paying for. If you get and sps tactical just plan on replacing the stock, if getting a pss you can shoot as is. If you know you want a detachable mag and McMillan or Manners stock, then start with the sps tactical.
Re: i need opinions on a 700 Pss
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jasonk</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Same action and barrel making process (the sps tac is 20" and pss is 24 or 26")
The stock is what you're paying for. If you get and sps tactical just plan on replacing the stock, if getting a pss you can shoot as is. If you know you want a detachable mag and McMillan or Manners stock, then start with the sps tactical. </div></div>
That's why I went with the SPS T. The PSS gives you a longer barrel than is what is used on the M24 for some reason. I didn't want the oversized PSS stock, and I was thinking about doing a DBM kit anyway. So I got the SPS T, put it in an LTR stock, and added a CDI kit.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jasonk</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Same action and barrel making process (the sps tac is 20" and pss is 24 or 26")
The stock is what you're paying for. If you get and sps tactical just plan on replacing the stock, if getting a pss you can shoot as is. If you know you want a detachable mag and McMillan or Manners stock, then start with the sps tactical. </div></div>
That's why I went with the SPS T. The PSS gives you a longer barrel than is what is used on the M24 for some reason. I didn't want the oversized PSS stock, and I was thinking about doing a DBM kit anyway. So I got the SPS T, put it in an LTR stock, and added a CDI kit.
Re: i need opinions on a 700 Pss
Dont know why the PSS rifles shoot as well as they do, one of the more accurate "out of the box" rifles you will find, they seem to outperform most of the Rem 5R and Rem varmint rifles in the same caliber, not sure why but thats what I have experienced personaly.
Kirk R
Dont know why the PSS rifles shoot as well as they do, one of the more accurate "out of the box" rifles you will find, they seem to outperform most of the Rem 5R and Rem varmint rifles in the same caliber, not sure why but thats what I have experienced personaly.
Kirk R
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well hell i shpuld of bought a sps tactical. i could of got one new for 560. now i am paying 860. is the stock worth 300?
well hell i shpuld of bought a sps tactical. i could of got one new for 560. now i am paying 860. is the stock worth 300?
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: caveman_tx</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Yes. </div></div>
is that all i get is a yes?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: caveman_tx</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Yes. </div></div>
is that all i get is a yes?
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id say go with the sps and put a McMillan stock on it or something that you find is comfortable, thats just my opinion
id say go with the sps and put a McMillan stock on it or something that you find is comfortable, thats just my opinion
Re: i need opinions on a 700 Pss
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Daltexmex</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: caveman_tx</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Yes. </div></div>
is that all i get is a yes? </div></div>
They retail for more than $300.... So yes is a good answer I thought...
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Daltexmex</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: caveman_tx</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Yes. </div></div>
is that all i get is a yes? </div></div>
They retail for more than $300.... So yes is a good answer I thought...
Re: i need opinions on a 700 Pss
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Daltexmex</div><div class="ubbcode-body">is that all i get is a yes? </div></div>
The stock on the SPS is a POS. The construction of it is not like a conventional synthetic stock: it has a hard plastic "skeleton" with the overmold squishy stuff on top. The foreend is hollow pretty much, so there is no rigidity. They are notorious for flexing all over the place if you shoot from a pod or rest, and don't have the support right up close to the lug. You can help it some be opening up the channel slightly by grinding some of the overmold material off, but the stock still flexes. Some people have added aluminum stock to the foreend to stiffen it, and the materials used in the stock supposedly make using bedding compound difficult.
A lot of people fix this by putting it in an LTR, PSS, B&C or other aftermarket stock. Those run $150-300+ depending on new, used, and model. So factor that cost in to your purchase price for a fair evaluation.
OTOH, with the SPS T you are getting a 20" barrel which will in all likelyhood be just fine for just about everybody, while the PSS gets you a 26" barrel which a lot of people will see as being between 2 and 6" too long. Some would even say it is 8" too long.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Daltexmex</div><div class="ubbcode-body">is that all i get is a yes? </div></div>
The stock on the SPS is a POS. The construction of it is not like a conventional synthetic stock: it has a hard plastic "skeleton" with the overmold squishy stuff on top. The foreend is hollow pretty much, so there is no rigidity. They are notorious for flexing all over the place if you shoot from a pod or rest, and don't have the support right up close to the lug. You can help it some be opening up the channel slightly by grinding some of the overmold material off, but the stock still flexes. Some people have added aluminum stock to the foreend to stiffen it, and the materials used in the stock supposedly make using bedding compound difficult.
A lot of people fix this by putting it in an LTR, PSS, B&C or other aftermarket stock. Those run $150-300+ depending on new, used, and model. So factor that cost in to your purchase price for a fair evaluation.
OTOH, with the SPS T you are getting a 20" barrel which will in all likelyhood be just fine for just about everybody, while the PSS gets you a 26" barrel which a lot of people will see as being between 2 and 6" too long. Some would even say it is 8" too long.
Re: i need opinions on a 700 Pss
well then i am glad i got the pss. i just wish it was mine already.
well then i am glad i got the pss. i just wish it was mine already.
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Fine rifle. I might take a gander at the 700P LTR (Police Light Tactical Rifle) which is the same rifle as the PSS with a different stock (smaller, lighter) and a 20" barrel rather than the 26" barrel on the PSS.
You won't lose any accuracy (in fact you may gain some if the harmonics/vibration theory has any real merit), and it is a bunch lighter.
Fine rifle. I might take a gander at the 700P LTR (Police Light Tactical Rifle) which is the same rifle as the PSS with a different stock (smaller, lighter) and a 20" barrel rather than the 26" barrel on the PSS.
You won't lose any accuracy (in fact you may gain some if the harmonics/vibration theory has any real merit), and it is a bunch lighter.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eleaf</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Fine rifle. I might take a gander at the 700P LTR (Police Light Tactical Rifle) which is the same rifle as the PSS with a different stock (smaller, lighter) and a 20" barrel rather than the 26" barrel on the PSS.
You won't lose any accuracy (in fact you may gain some if the harmonics/vibration theory has any real merit), and it is a bunch lighter. </div></div>
explain this to me. is a 20" better.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eleaf</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Fine rifle. I might take a gander at the 700P LTR (Police Light Tactical Rifle) which is the same rifle as the PSS with a different stock (smaller, lighter) and a 20" barrel rather than the 26" barrel on the PSS.
You won't lose any accuracy (in fact you may gain some if the harmonics/vibration theory has any real merit), and it is a bunch lighter. </div></div>
explain this to me. is a 20" better.
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Why not look at the 700 5R? It comes with a 24" barrel instead of the overkill 26 on the PSS, and by all reports (and my personal experiance) the 5R's seem to outshoot the P's
Why not look at the 700 5R? It comes with a 24" barrel instead of the overkill 26 on the PSS, and by all reports (and my personal experiance) the 5R's seem to outshoot the P's
Re: i need opinions on a 700 Pss
I just purchased the SPS tac .308 and am currently in the 10 days to long 10 day waiting period.
(day 7 WOO HOO!)
If your going to go with the SPS tac. Id recommend a 20MOA mount, Some decent glass in your budget range and put a few rounds through it and get to know YOUR rifle and how you pair together and just feel how it shoots with you. Maybe a trigger job they come a bit heavy factory tuned and a Harris bi-pod.
Then if you feel you need to upgrade Id say go McMil. A3-A5 stock, upgrade glass, 24" barrel and you should be set. And like stated before do them one at a time so you get the feel of the change and notice the improvement made from such.
Honestly I think the SPS tactical with a A5 stock not only being oh so beautiful is worth the money saved to buy that stock over the PSS/700P.
My 2 cents. GL.
I just purchased the SPS tac .308 and am currently in the 10 days to long 10 day waiting period.
If your going to go with the SPS tac. Id recommend a 20MOA mount, Some decent glass in your budget range and put a few rounds through it and get to know YOUR rifle and how you pair together and just feel how it shoots with you. Maybe a trigger job they come a bit heavy factory tuned and a Harris bi-pod.
Then if you feel you need to upgrade Id say go McMil. A3-A5 stock, upgrade glass, 24" barrel and you should be set. And like stated before do them one at a time so you get the feel of the change and notice the improvement made from such.
Honestly I think the SPS tactical with a A5 stock not only being oh so beautiful is worth the money saved to buy that stock over the PSS/700P.
My 2 cents. GL.
Re: i need opinions on a 700 Pss
I love mine, had it bedded, added scope and with gmm ammo it will shoot 1/4 groups all day long as long as I do my part. I dont think ill touch it till the barrel is gone
I love mine, had it bedded, added scope and with gmm ammo it will shoot 1/4 groups all day long as long as I do my part. I dont think ill touch it till the barrel is gone
Re: i need opinions on a 700 Pss
I am really digging a A.I.C,S stock. i think the 1.5 or 2.0 but in summertime.
I am really digging a A.I.C,S stock. i think the 1.5 or 2.0 but in summertime.
Re: i need opinions on a 700 Pss
Before i get my stock i think i am gonna het the SS 10x42HD scope. that should be ok. i hope.
Before i get my stock i think i am gonna het the SS 10x42HD scope. that should be ok. i hope.
Re: i need opinions on a 700 Pss
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Daltexmex</div><div class="ubbcode-body">How good is it? I am buying a stock new rifle. What do I need to get it 800 yards ready? And anymore info would be apreciated.</div></div>
Good enough. My department has one of the original wood stocked custom shop 700PSS's. It's a consistant .5 MOA gun even after around 20 years of use, no one knows how many rounds and having to be repainted with spray paint every few months because the parkerizing has been worn off years ago.
A good base, set of rings, and a scope is all the rifle needs. Through in some competent training and a few cases of ammo and you are good to go. When the barrel's shot out, take it to a competent gunsmith and have him rebuild it to your specs.
You can save a little bit of money and get a 700 SPS Varmint or Tactical and get a used 700P or LTR stock if you don't care about the parkerized finish.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Daltexmex</div><div class="ubbcode-body">How good is it? I am buying a stock new rifle. What do I need to get it 800 yards ready? And anymore info would be apreciated.</div></div>
Good enough. My department has one of the original wood stocked custom shop 700PSS's. It's a consistant .5 MOA gun even after around 20 years of use, no one knows how many rounds and having to be repainted with spray paint every few months because the parkerizing has been worn off years ago.
A good base, set of rings, and a scope is all the rifle needs. Through in some competent training and a few cases of ammo and you are good to go. When the barrel's shot out, take it to a competent gunsmith and have him rebuild it to your specs.
You can save a little bit of money and get a 700 SPS Varmint or Tactical and get a used 700P or LTR stock if you don't care about the parkerized finish.
