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[Peepaw]

Re: If buying 1911 as a possible family....

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: CANAVAR</div><div class="ubbcode-body">There are two Wilson CQB's in the FS section right now for $1800 ish. Buy once, cry once. </div></div>


Yeah, just not real sure I want to go that route ($$$$) Thanks though.

 

[Peepaw]

Re: If buying 1911 as a possible family....

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Scot</div><div class="ubbcode-body">SA 1911 A1 and go from there or run it as is your choice. You won't be sorry. It's my favorite sidearm bar none. Like comming home.
Scot </div></div>


100% USA?

 

[Peepaw]

Re: If buying 1911 as a possible family....

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Calibur</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The caspian i have is as smooth as butter, and looks good too. Customer service was top notch.

This is before sights and new beavertail. Its a XR over-run </div></div>



I am thinking the Caspian could be teh way to go. Seems, $$$ wise, would be in my budget, 100% USA, can have local gunsmith put together/finish/personal touch....liking this route...

 

[Peepaw]

Re: If buying 1911 as a possible family....

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: El Shavewa</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: The Mechanic</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If it is to be passed down and an heirloom I would get a Gold Cup. If you are going to use and abuse get a springer or wilson </div></div>

I agree with The Mechanic. Nothing says heirloom like a Colt. If you're looking to shoot the crap out of it then spend the $$$ and buy a Wilson.

I'd be happy to inherit either and I'm picky as hell. </div></div>



I am going to look into the Colt's. So far, it seems teh Caspian is leading, but a Colt is something I will seriously consider and look into. Thanks

 

[Peepaw]

Re: If buying 1911 as a possible family....

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: wthurman</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'd look for a new Colt Series 70 Government Model. Colt dropped the firing pin safety gizmo on the re-issues (introduced on the Series 80's):

http://www.coltsmfg.com/products-c5-q76-COLT_PISTOLS.aspx#

Since you are in Pearland, check with Collector's Firearms off Richmond & Fondren. If they don't have one they can probably get you one. It should be within your price range although I don't know if all the components are American made (I'd be disappointed if they weren't- it's a Colt!) I've an Ed Brown Kobra- all American made and definitely an heirloom quality pistol but at $2K it's out of your budget. It's the finest handgun I've ever shot; if you can stretch your budget you won't go wrong with an Ed Brown.

I do like my 1911's! </div></div>


yeah, not really wanting to stretch it...I mean, @ $1500 is really pushing what I want to spend. Would be nic to stay in $800-$1000 range, so for me to push that to $2K..Hmmm, not thinking that is going to happen. But thanks anyways.

 

[Peepaw]

Re: If buying 1911 as a possible family....

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ArcticLight</div><div class="ubbcode-body">+1 on the springfield - thinking of selling my Kimber and going with a Springfield.. </div></div>

Not 100% USA though. Thanks anyways

 

[Peepaw]

Re: If buying 1911 as a possible family....

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Doc1911</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Since, you are going to pass this down, I would get something sort of special. That said for $1500.00 you can get a Fusion. http://www.fusionfirearms.com/ </div></div>


Will look into link you just gave. Thanks

 

[Peepaw]

Re: If buying 1911 as a possible family....

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Downzero</div><div class="ubbcode-body">http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.ph...p;#entry1191186 </div></div>

That link no workie.

 

[wthurman]

Re: If buying 1911 as a possible family....

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Peepaw</div><div class="ubbcode-body">


yeah, not really wanting to stretch it...I mean, @ $1500 is really pushing what I want to spend. Would be nic to stay in $800-$1000 range, so for me to push that to $2K..Hmmm, not thinking that is going to happen. But thanks anyways. </div></div>

The new Series 70 will be well within your price range. Good luck with whatever you choose!

 

[Peepaw]

Re: If buying 1911 as a possible family....

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Georgeofthejungle</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Colt 45(acp)
Take your pic, Pleanty of models to chose from. Classic 70 remake. WWll. Custom shop,Commander,Defender, alot of flavors,
in my opinion Nothing says 45 like "Colt"...
Colt 45!!!
Your Call..
Good luck.
George of the Jungle..
</div></div>

I am definitely looking into the Colt's now...few of you guys have mentioned them, with nothing but positve remarks about it. So, Caspian and Colts are looking pretty good right now...have to look into after I try and answer all of teh replies, thanks for yours.

 

[Peepaw]

Re: If buying 1911 as a possible family....

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mumbles</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Nothing wrong with getting a Colt, or shooting it, and they do have the history, just try to steer clear of the Series 80 Colts with the firing pin stop - not "pure" 1911s (in my opinion). Colt cuts a lot of corners on some models too - squared off hammer struts, cut out slide stop gaps, etc.

As for Caspian and asking about forged alternatives, Doc1911 linked to one:
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Doc1911</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Since, you are going to pass this down, I would get something sort of special. That said for $1500.00 you can get a Fusion. http://www.fusionfirearms.com/</div></div>

No worries on "teh", pretty common, just thought it was odd since the rest of your spelling was fine. </div></div>

OK, thaks for the info, will do.

 

[Peepaw]

Re: If buying 1911 as a possible family....

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: wthurman</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Peepaw</div><div class="ubbcode-body">


yeah, not really wanting to stretch it...I mean, @ $1500 is really pushing what I want to spend. Would be nic to stay in $800-$1000 range, so for me to push that to $2K..Hmmm, not thinking that is going to happen. But thanks anyways. </div></div>

The new Series 70 will be well within your price range. Good luck with whatever you choose! </div></div>

OK, thanks!

 

[Peepaw]

Re: If buying 1911 as a possible family....

Oh, also....do not want anything used either guys, so no, not gonna go that route. The only way I would take it used, if someone was able to locate my Grandpa's from WWII. Aside from that, no, no used 1911 for this.
Thanks though.

 

[Peepaw]

Re: If buying 1911 as a possible family....

<span style="color: #FF0000">COLT GOVERNMENT MODEL BLUE 45ACP NEW
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

******** NEW IN BOX BLUE GOVERNMENT MODEL ****** MODEL 01991,THIS IS A NEW IN THE BOX GOVERNMENT MODEL PISTOL, BLUED STEEL, WITH A 5" BARREL, FIXED THREE DOT SIGHTS, AND DOUBLE DIAMOND ROSEWOOD GRIPS, COMES WITH 2 FACTORY SEVEN ROUND MAGAZINES, THE ORIGINAL BOX AND ALL PACKAGING AND PAPERWORK,*** </span>

I found this listing, dealer wants $780 for it, and is a BEAUTIFUL pistol. OK, so you Colt guys, is this 100% USA made?

Here is a pic of her:

 

[Downzero]

Re: If buying 1911 as a possible family....

That gun doesn't even have a beavertail or a decent thumb safety.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Peepaw</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Downzero</div><div class="ubbcode-body">http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.ph...p;#entry1191186 </div></div>

That link no workie. </div></div>

You have to sign up for their forum to view the classifieds there.

I think you're wrong not to consider a used gun. You'll get a lot more gun for less money if you buy used. I don't think I'll ever buy a new 1911 again.

 

[Peepaw]

Re: If buying 1911 as a possible family....

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Downzero</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That gun doesn't even have a beavertail or a decent thumb safety.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Peepaw</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Downzero</div><div class="ubbcode-body">http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.ph...p;#entry1191186 </div></div>

That link no workie. </div></div>

You have to sign up for their forum to view the classifieds there.

I think you're wrong not to consider a used gun. You'll get a lot more gun for less money if you buy used. I don't think I'll ever buy a new 1911 again. </div></div>



I don't have a problem buying used guns, just not for this purchase.

Also..about beavertail and safety...i still think is a beautiful HG..love the colors on it.

 

[Mumbles]

Re: If buying 1911 as a possible family....

The Colt you linked is a M1991, which is a Series 80. Nothing wrong with it, I've got one, just be aware that it will have:
-1991 written on the slide (not 1911)
-A Firing pin stop
-A square hammer strut
-A cut out slide stop gap
-A plastic trigger shoe
-A plastic mainspring housing (maybe. Do the NRM 1991s have plastic MSH?)

 

[Peepaw]

Re: If buying 1911 as a possible family....

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mumbles</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The Colt you linked is a M1991, which is a Series 80. Nothing wrong with it, I've got one, just be aware that it will have:
-1991 written on the slide (not 1911)
-A Firing pin stop
-A square hammer strut
-A cut out slide stop gap
-A plastic trigger shoe
-A plastic mainspring housing (maybe. Do the NRM 1991s have plastic MSH?) </div></div>


OK, so teh 70 series is a better option then, right? The gun I posted is a good color combo...I am really wanting that color on the grips, wood grain style (I know grips are easy to swap out of course)

 

[Downzero]

Re: If buying 1911 as a possible family....

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Peepaw</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mumbles</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The Colt you linked is a M1991, which is a Series 80. Nothing wrong with it, I've got one, just be aware that it will have:
-1991 written on the slide (not 1911)
-A Firing pin stop
-A square hammer strut
-A cut out slide stop gap
-A plastic trigger shoe
-A plastic mainspring housing (maybe. Do the NRM 1991s have plastic MSH?) </div></div>


OK, so teh 70 series is a better option then, right? The gun I posted is a good color combo...I am really wanting that color on the grips, wood grain style (I know grips are easy to swap out of course) </div></div>

There are plenty of blue 1911s with wood grips.

 

[Mumbles]

Re: If buying 1911 as a possible family....

Yes:
http://www.coltsmfg.com/products-c5-q76-COLT_PISTOLS.aspx#

 

[Peepaw]

Re: If buying 1911 as a possible family....

Let me ask you this guys, say I bought teh Caspian frame and slide, and took down to a gunsmith and had him finish it, what can I expect to pay, on top of the frame/slide?

Granted I know there are many "small parts", like teh firing pin, retainers, springs, barrel, etc...and of course I know it all adds up, but ROUGHLY how much. So, say I bought the frame and slide, and paid @ $500 or so for both of those pieces...how much more would I have in teh gun?

Granted I know it can vary alot, like teh trigger..srue I can get a trigger for $30, but can also spend $80-$100 on one as well. So, again, jus tlooking for a rough estimate using very nice parts to finish it out.

Reason I ask is, I can see that route going over my budget if I spent $500 (or more) for frame/slide.

$75 trigger
$75 barrel..there is $650+ right there...

 

[Peepaw]

Re: If buying 1911 as a possible family....

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Downzero</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

There are plenty of blue 1911s with wood grips. </div></div>


Thanks for the info.

 

[Peepaw]

Re: If buying 1911 as a possible family....

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mumbles</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Yes:
http://www.coltsmfg.com/products-c5-q76-COLT_PISTOLS.aspx# </div></div>


Thanks. I really can't see difference in that and teh 80 series I posted a pic of above???

Or most of difference internally that we can't see?

 

[Mumbles]

Re: If buying 1911 as a possible family....

Most of the differences are internal. The only externally visible differences will be the plastic parts and the 1991 roll mark.

The Series 70 (and Springfields) have none of these pieces:

 

[Calibur6918]

Re: If buying 1911 as a possible family....

best thing to guestimate the price, go onto brownells, midway and add all the parts to a shopping cart, time consuming but hey. they have a schematic to show what parts go int the gun. Or call one of the reputable 1911 smiths out there and ask the what a full parts list costs. And then you have to factor in Gunsmithing cost into the equation. And I don't think your on a time limit, so if it takes a larger amount of $, i personally would think that would be worth it.

 

[Peepaw]

Re: If buying 1911 as a possible family....

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mumbles</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Most of the differences are internal. The only externally visible differences will be the plastic parts and the 1991 roll mark.

The Series 70 (and Springfields) have none of these pieces:

</div></div>


Ahhh, OK. Great! Thanks a million man, you have been very helpful. Let me ask you this, you say you have a 80 series...you like it? HONESTLY, please.

 

[Peepaw]

Re: If buying 1911 as a possible family....

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Calibur</div><div class="ubbcode-body">best thing to guestimate the price, go onto brownells, midway and add all the parts to a shopping cart, time consuming but hey. they have a schematic to show what parts go int the gun. Or call one of the reputable 1911 smiths out there and ask the what a full parts list costs. And then you have to factor in Gunsmithing cost into the equation. And I don't think your on a time limit, so if it takes a larger amount of $, i personally would think that would be worth it.
</div></div>


yeah, was gonna do that tonight when had some extra time, but was hoping that maybe someone had been through this before (having one built) and would know roughly what it would cost.

 

[rrflyer]

Re: If buying 1911 as a possible family....

Buying the frame/slide then having parts fit will way over run your budget.

Last time i checked it was gonna be about 1,000 for all the parts required then another 800 or so to have them fitted plus whatever finish you wanted applied would be more $$$$

The only colts I'd consider are the milspec repro or a gold cup.

Colts are overpriced these days for what you get....theres no way I'd waste my time getting a colt custom built. Its to easy and much cheaper just to buy what you want right away rather than having somebody build it for you.....plus in the end you'll end up with something of more value than an old colt.


If your wanting to buy new and keep it around 1,000 bucks and have it be all made in the USA the only company I can think of is STI.

An STI Trojan is a damn nice gun that is a bargain at the 950 price point. Made in the USA, top notch customer service should you need it. Plus the front strap checkering, undercut trigger guard, and flat top slide make it somewhat unique.

The STI Lawman is about 1250 and the ones I've handled are on par with wilson cqb's.

Dawsonprecision.com or brazoscustom.com will have them in stock and for another 100 bucks or so will do a custom trigger job on it that will freaking rock your socks.

STI's guns are a deal and a half.

 

[SPDGG]

Re: If buying 1911 as a possible family....

IMHO: Les Baer

 

[joe90]

Re: If buying 1911 as a possible family....

Also just mentioning it with the Caspian and Fusion after everything and the gunsmith bill I'm guessing you are going to be really close to $1500 if not a little more.

 

[Mumbles]

Re: If buying 1911 as a possible family....

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">you say you have a 80 series...you like it? HONESTLY, please.</div></div>

Yeah, I like it. Mine's an Old Roll Mark 1991, which has significantly a significantly less aesthetically appealing slide than the New Roll Mark you posted.

I wish I would have started with a Series 70 or a Springfield Mil-Spec though.

 

[RADcustom]

Re: If buying 1911 as a possible family....

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Peepaw</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mumbles</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Most of the differences are internal. The only externally visible differences will be the plastic parts and the 1991 roll mark.

The Series 70 (and Springfields) have none of these pieces:

</div></div>

Ahhh, OK. Great! Thanks a million man, you have been very helpful. Let me ask you this, you say you have a 80 series...you like it? HONESTLY, please. </div></div>


Don't get too hung up on the series 80 stuff. You can remove the red and blue pieces in the lower diagram and have a series 70 action with no permanent mods to the pistol. Put them in a little bag and save them in the box.

No other brand of current production 1911 will hold its value like the Colt. Sorry, but it's the truth. The pic you posted would be an excellent candidate for your purpose.

 

[Peepaw]

Re: If buying 1911 as a possible family....

OK guys, here is what I did. I have been thinking of this for awhile now, and really the best thing I could come up with is, to have a gun made. To have it's own personal touches (which won't be many to be honest though), but it won't be "just another 1911". it will be unique, and will be made for me/my son, and no one else. Now, i also realize that I can buy a gun and have my own personal touches added later on as well. However, it is still not quite teh same as having a entire gun built for you. So, that is what I am going to do. Now, that being said, it will be pretty much a no expense spared gun, with all of teh best going into it. So, I thought of all that, and decided that it would be best that I have MORE than one 1911, SO.....

I went ahead and bought a Springfield Armory Stainless Mil Spec 1911A1 today. Now, this is NOT going to be the family heirloom pistol. Again, I am gonna have one made. I picked this gun up for a couple different reasons...1)It came highly recommended by most of you, so it seems to be an overwhelming favorite. 2)I am gonna need another .45 anyways when I give the "heirloom" to my son, so might as well go ahead and get it now. 3)I want to go shooting NOW, and with my decision to have a gun built, and with so many choices to make on that, figured it would be, 6, 8, 10, 12, 18 months before it is finished, and I just can't see myself waiting that long without a pistol in hand. The Springfield solves that problem.
4)My son is only 2 right now anyways, so I ahve some time anyways before he is ready to go shoot with me (and is a big reason why I decided that I should have one made since I have so much time.)


Now, WHAT direction am I going to go when I have my other 1911 made? That, not sure of. Seems Fusion has their shit together, as I browsed that link from abvoe earlier, ALOT of nice stuff over there. But, at this time, nothing is etched in stone on what products/parts I am going to use for the build, but since I bought teh Springfield, I "bought" myself some time for it.

 

[Downzero]

Re: If buying 1911 as a possible family....

If you truly want a family heirloom, perhaps what you really should buy is an ex-US military 1911 of some kind. That's the kind of gun you pass down--a true collector's piece.

They are available all over the cost range.

 

[Doc1911]

Re: If buying 1911 as a possible family....

If you desire to spend a few more $$$ - well about double (for each weapon) - you could go this direction (4 consecutive serial numbered Nighthawk Customs - 2xDominators aand 2x Heinie PDPs):

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa206/DocJN/DSC_0002.jpg?t=1271197512

 

[Mumbles]

Re: If buying 1911 as a possible family....

Sounds like a good plan Peepaw.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Doc1911</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If you desire to spend a few more $$$ - well about double (for each weapon) - you could go this direction (4 consecutive serial numbered Nighthawk Customs - 2xDominators aand 2x Heinie PDPs):

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa206/DocJN/DSC_0002.jpg?t=1271197512</div></div>

Damn. That must be nice.

 

[The Mechanic]

Re: If buying 1911 as a possible family....

makes my GRP Recon look a little pale

 

[Doc1911]

Re: If buying 1911 as a possible family....

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: The Mechanic</div><div class="ubbcode-body">makes my GRP Recon look a little pale </div></div>Those GRPs are really nice. One of the sharpest in the NHC line IMO.

For the OP, since you can wait a little longer get a new "2011" Anniversary model from some maker ....

Here are a couple more pics of some others (and a repeat of the 4 above):

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa206/DocJN/1911-8-2-1.jpg?t=1271200678

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa206/DocJN/T3-123.jpg?t=1271200736

 

[CT]

Re: If buying 1911 as a possible family....

I see you've made your choice ........ guess it's a little late to mention the 2 Wilson Combat CQB 1911 pistols for sale here on SH in the $1600 range eh?

 

[tacticalrifleman]

Re: If buying 1911 as a possible family....

I also wanted to be able to "hand down" some specific guns. Of the hand guns two were a like new 70 series gold cup that was shot occasionally by me, and the fairly well used (by me) 70 series government model. As a previous poster said none of the other brands will hold their value like a colt, for an example look at the prewar super .38's etc. Anyway you seem to have made a logical choice and are going to have what you want built, which is what many of the members here do with rifles and pistols. As you may or may not know there is a lot of satisfaction to be had getting exactly what you want built your way. Good luck on your build and enjoy the springer!

 

[Mumbles]

Re: If buying 1911 as a possible family....

There's a lot of talk about how well Colt's hold there value. Does the value really matter? If it's intended to be passed down through the family, it's probably not going to be sold. I'd think having it be well built would be much more important.

 

[wthurman]

Re: If buying 1911 as a possible family....

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Peepaw</div><div class="ubbcode-body">OK guys, here is what I did. I have been thinking of this for awhile now, and really the best thing I could come up with is, to have a gun made. To have it's own personal touches (which won't be many to be honest though), but it won't be "just another 1911". it will be unique, and will be made for me/my son, and no one else. Now, i also realize that I can buy a gun and have my own personal touches added later on as well. However, it is still not quite teh same as having a entire gun built for you. So, that is what I am going to do. Now, that being said, it will be pretty much a no expense spared gun, with all of teh best going into it. So, I thought of all that, and decided that it would be best that I have MORE than one 1911, SO.....

I went ahead and bought a Springfield Armory Stainless Mil Spec 1911A1 today. Now, this is NOT going to be the family heirloom pistol. Again, I am gonna have one made. I picked this gun up for a couple different reasons...1)It came highly recommended by most of you, so it seems to be an overwhelming favorite. 2)I am gonna need another .45 anyways when I give the "heirloom" to my son, so might as well go ahead and get it now. 3)I want to go shooting NOW, and with my decision to have a gun built, and with so many choices to make on that, figured it would be, 6, 8, 10, 12, 18 months before it is finished, and I just can't see myself waiting that long without a pistol in hand. The Springfield solves that problem.
4)My son is only 2 right now anyways, so I ahve some time anyways before he is ready to go shoot with me (and is a big reason why I decided that I should have one made since I have so much time.)


Now, WHAT direction am I going to go when I have my other 1911 made? That, not sure of. Seems Fusion has their shit together, as I browsed that link from abvoe earlier, ALOT of nice stuff over there. But, at this time, nothing is etched in stone on what products/parts I am going to use for the build, but since I bought teh Springfield, I "bought" myself some time for it.
</div></div>

Congrats on the Springer- they are fine shooters. I had a Loaded which I sold to a friend when I bought the Ed Brown- shoulda kept it.

If you are going to build one, I'd recommend you go to Brownell's website and get their 1911-specific catalog- it's free. Every part imaginable is in there. Also order Jerry Kuhnhausen's <span style="text-decoration: underline">The Colt .45 automatic: A shop manual</span> from Amazon (but I think Brownell's has it too). This is Volume 1 in his series of two books on the pistol and it is invaluable if you progress pass field stripping and really want to understand how the weapon works. Volume 2 is more for the tweakers but worth having as well.

Welcome to the 1911 club- in my opinion, it is the finest handgun design of all time. I own a couple of Glocks and I like them a lot, but there is nothing like a full-size, quality 1911.

 

[Bacarrat]

Re: If buying 1911 as a possible family....

Sounds good Peepaw. Let us know who you decide to build your gun. I am in the same boat right now too. I have an idea of how mine will go all together, just got to find the right gunsmith to do it for me.

 

[Peepaw]

Re: If buying 1911 as a possible family....

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Downzero</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If you truly want a family heirloom, perhaps what you really should buy is an ex-US military 1911 of some kind. That's the kind of gun you pass down--a true collector's piece.

They are available all over the cost range. </div></div>


Well, their is one on here for sale right now, and I am actually trying to find the original soldier that used teh gun during WWII for teh seller/owner of the HG right now. I belong with a website that is dedicated to the 401st BG (WWII), and I was able to track down teh same last name, but appears that is not teh same individual. I sent a picture of this soldier to teh current owner of teh gun, and he is supposed to show it to the family he got the gun from, to see if it is him or not. Again, does not appear so, but trying none the less.

That being said, I don't want a used gun. The ONLY used gun I would take is, IF someone could find/locate MY Grandpa's 1911 from teh War, then of course, I would buy a used gun, but ONLY that used gun.

 

[Peepaw]

Re: If buying 1911 as a possible family....

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Doc1911</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If you desire to spend a few more $$$ - well about double (for each weapon) - you could go this direction (4 consecutive serial numbered Nighthawk Customs - 2xDominators aand 2x Heinie PDPs):

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa206/DocJN/DSC_0002.jpg?t=1271197512 </div></div>


Uh, yeah, that would be REAL nice to be able to pic something like that up...just pretty sure, not in the budget, HAHA!!

 

[Peepaw]

Re: If buying 1911 as a possible family....

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mumbles</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Sounds like a good plan Peepaw.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Doc1911</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If you desire to spend a few more $$$ - well about double (for each weapon) - you could go this direction (4 consecutive serial numbered Nighthawk Customs - 2xDominators aand 2x Heinie PDPs):

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa206/DocJN/DSC_0002.jpg?t=1271197512</div></div>

Damn. That must be nice. </div></div>


Thanks, and I think so as well.

And yes, must be REAL nice to have that set!!

 

[Peepaw]

Re: If buying 1911 as a possible family....

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Doc1911</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: The Mechanic</div><div class="ubbcode-body">makes my GRP Recon look a little pale </div></div>Those GRPs are really nice. One of the sharpest in the NHC line IMO.

For the OP, since you can wait a little longer get a new "2011" Anniversary model from some maker ....

Here are a couple more pics of some others (and a repeat of the 4 above):

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa206/DocJN/1911-8-2-1.jpg?t=1271200678

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa206/DocJN/T3-123.jpg?t=1271200736 </div></div>


Wow, those are some nice pieces...some serious eye candy there. Yours?

 

[Peepaw]

Re: If buying 1911 as a possible family....

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: CT</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I see you've made your choice ........ guess it's a little late to mention the 2 Wilson Combat CQB 1911 pistols for sale here on SH in the $1600 range eh? </div></div>


Well, they were already mentioned earlier in the thread, used right? Do not want a used gun. And by now, sure you know, that already bought one "just to have", and for family heirloom, will (would say 99.9% chance) have one made.

 

[Peepaw]

Re: If buying 1911 as a possible family....

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: tacticalrifleman</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I also wanted to be able to "hand down" some specific guns. Of the hand guns two were a like new 70 series gold cup that was shot occasionally by me, and the fairly well used (by me) 70 series government model. As a previous poster said none of the other brands will hold their value like a colt, for an example look at the prewar super .38's etc. Anyway you seem to have made a logical choice and are going to have what you want built, which is what many of the members here do with rifles and pistols. As you may or may not know there is a lot of satisfaction to be had getting exactly what you want built your way. Good luck on your build and enjoy the springer! </div></div>


Thanks and yeah, pretty excited about having a gun built. I am self employed, and I build Hot Rods/Race Cars for a living, so watching a car come together is a nic feeling, especially when it's yours. Even though I won't be building the gun myself, I do want to be aprt of it, and is why I am going to lcoate someone locally to me to build it, so I can watch progress, and take pics as teh build progress's

 

[Peepaw]

Re: If buying 1911 as a possible family....

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mumbles</div><div class="ubbcode-body">There's a lot of talk about how well Colt's hold there value. Does the value really matter? If it's intended to be passed down through the family, it's probably not going to be sold. I'd think having it be well built would be much more important. </div></div>


No, holding value ($$$$) has no bearing for me what so ever. In fact, IF I was passed a gun from say my Dad, who got it from his Dad, who got it from his Dad, etc..I would care less if it was a pop gun that was broke in half. The fact that it was passed down from generation to generation is ALL that matters to me. Unfortunately, that never happened in my family, and is why I want to start something like this, and what better object than a 1911?

I can give you a SLIGHT example though of what I mean. My Grandpa who I loved dearly, passed away in January, and he fought in WWII (was a Top Turret Gunner on teh Mary Alice, a B-17G bomber that is on display in teh Imperial War Museum in Duxford, UK) Anyways, he brought home a .50 cal bullet from his gun home with him from teh War. He showed me this bullet MANY years ago, and when he passed, I asked my Mom if I could have that bullet, so she went into his War Chess, and gave it to me:

Now, reason I bring that up is, to me THAT is part of our families history, and should be respected, and THAT bullet will be passed down as well, from Generation to Generation. What is it's monetary value? Probaly nothing, but does not matter to me. My Grandpa put his life on teh line for his family and our country, and that bullet (well, one's just like it) is what was able to do that for him,and it kept him and his crew alive. So, teh bullet has very special meaning to me, even though $$$$ wise, not worth anything, it's priceless though.