I'm actually speechless.

[MrSmith]

As all of us, I see a lot of really stupid shit on my morning eNews perusal. But this.......

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/mar...-to-a-test/ar-BBTv0fQ?li=BBnbfcN&ocid=U507DHP

In denial,
MrSmith

 

[MtnCreek]

Just forward mine directly to Target Sports USA.

 

[Olen_4504]

i watched him on Joe Rogan's podcast light night.

actually pretty interesting stuff.

i'm not saying i agree with everything he said - nor do i necessarily think all of his ideas are good or will work. but it was an interesting conversation..


worth a listen, explaining WHY and how it's supposed to work and all the details

 

[AIAW]

Wow... That is pretty damn stupid.

I remember this guy. He made his money as an inventor of the electric banana straightener and waterproof toilet paper.

 

[Soulezoo]

Here's how it works for the majority who receives it:

"Now I don't have to work as much--or at all--and can spend that time with ganja and knocking up like minded women."
Also, you've just added untold millions to the drug trade.

 

[supercorndogs]

[150,000,000x1,000]x12=No fucking way.

 

[Olen_4504]

Here's how it works for the majority who receives it:

"Now I don't have to work as much--or at all--and can spend that time with ganja and knocking up like minded women."
Also, you've just added untold millions to the drug trade.

who can live off 12k a year? it's not supposed to be meant as a sole income for anybody

and if you are already receiving government benefits then you don't get the full $1000.

 

[Soulezoo]

I know of a few unemployed people holding cardboard signs saying will work for food (not) that claim to make upwards of $40k a year (including the free medical benefits). All of it undeclared or untraceable. This is going to incentivize them?

 

[Olen_4504]

ONE OF the major point behind this guys idea is a way to help/support all the people that are about to lose their jobs to AI/Robots in the next 6-10 years.

truck drivers
cashiers
clerical/administrative positions
etc
etc
anything that can be automated and replaced by a computer.

sounds crazy.

but it's already happening.

 

[MrSmith]

i watched him on Joe Rogan's podcast light night.

actually pretty interesting stuff.

i'm not saying i agree with everything he said - nor do i necessarily think all of his ideas are good or will work. but it was an interesting conversation..


worth a listen, explaining WHY and how it's supposed to work and all the details

You are correct, of course. I should hear it out before relying on the entertainment news organizations. As gun owners we know how factual and accurate they are. I think it was the last couple of paragraphs that really dropped my jaw.

Still in the African river,
MrSmith

 

[MtnCreek]

[150,000,000x1,000]x12=No fucking way.

Canon adding machine just gave me the big E for error.

 

[Jethro3898]

$1,800,000,000,000 annually
That's 1.8 Trillion.

 

[Alphatreedog]

From the freat minds that brought you , " I think that long lines for bread would be a good thing . It would mean that there is food ." Bernie Sanders .

 

[supercorndogs]

who can live off 12k a year? it's not supposed to be meant as a sole income for anybody

and if you are already receiving government benefits then you don't get the full $1000.

How would this effect people who pay no taxes but get 10k on their tax return?

I think the efficacy of a lot of this automation is greatly overstated.

 

[Olen_4504]

How would this effect people who pay no taxes but get 10k on their tax return?

I think the efficacy of a lot of this automation is greatly overstated.

i do not know.

and maybe, maybe not.

 

[Fig]

Wow. What a novel idea. Like we didn't have the whole 20th century to watch communism murder and impoverish hundreds of millions of people we now have to try the exact same things with a millennial rebranding. How interesting.

 

[texastonk]

Ill take a thousand a month of this guys money... No problem. I do have an issue if the gov. is paying it out. And I agree most will use this money to stimulate the mind and the privates.

 

[sirhrmechanic]

Well, if billionaires want to give their money away this way... that is what the American system intended! Charity, not socialism.

The problem is that noone wants to do charity a-la-Rockefellers and Vanderbilts any more... because they are already taxed so much that they feel no need to start universities, donate thousands of libraries, build national parks, etc.

This guy should be setting a trend! That trend is that people with billions... should be giving it away. Not having it extorted from them by a corrupt socialist government... that will just waste it (while becoming rich themselves.)

How many millionaire Senators and Congressmen are there? How many were multi-millionaires when they started.

Seeing the problem?

Cheers,

Sirhr

 

[FS1]

If nobody works, there will be nothing to buy anyway. Who is going to make it, sell it or move it?

 

[pmclaine]

They just did this in Finland or one of the other Scandanavian countries and it failed.

The idea was the basic income would relieve enough stress that the person getting it would find a job.

Shocking! No one got a job.

I think they were giving $2500 a month or something like that.

People dont just need a basic income they need a "purpose".

Rational, healthy people like to contribute in some way and feel responsible for their own lives.

A basic income is acknowledgement that you are useless and exist only at the largesse of the public treasury.

It does not bode well for an ordered society.

Its the dystopian world of the tyrant.

 

[pugnado]

Get woke, go broke: https://www.eater.com/2019/2/5/18212499/panera-cares-closing-pay-what-you-can-restaurant

If you had a dollar for every time socialism worked, you'd have $0 because socialism doesn't work.
If socialism did work, you'd also have $0, because of socialism.

 

[pmclaine]

PS....

https://www.investors.com/politics/...-basic-income-punishes-work-subsidizes-sloth/


I was on off on the dollar amount they were paying......$678 vs $2500.

 

[deersniper]

ONE OF the major point behind this guys idea is a way to help/support all the people that are about to lose their jobs to AI/Robots in the next 6-10 years.

truck drivers
cashiers
clerical/administrative positions
etc
etc
anything that can be automated and replaced by a computer.

sounds crazy.

but it's already happening.

I guess all the wagon wheel makers, saddle makers, horse shoers, vehicle gps manufacturers, alarm clock makers, etc all starved or turned to a life of crime?

 

[Dewey7271]

Ok. Census says roughly 250million people over 18 in the U.S.
Multiply that times $1000. As someone earlier did, X 12. Gets big real fast as I don’t believe he specifies what age it ends? (Unfortunately, it sounds like a shitty Social Security Check for all and look how well that’s going)
22 trillion deficit now. Try this dumb shit and see what it does. Just read the economic history of Argentina for a clue.
When will people figure out there’s no free lunch? Idiots.

 

[2ndamendfan]

Didn't Margaret Thatcher say something about running out of other people's money......

 

[Fig]

Appearently we lost The Cold War. The stupidity of the “educated” class known no bounds.