I'm having a really hard time paying property taxes

[TheGerman]

Not because I can't afford it, but because I don't use 98% of what the fuck I'm being billed for.

Procrastinating until the last day, because fuck them getting this any sooner than I have to pay it, and I'm just having a hard time sending this to them. Basically, this bullshit bill is for:

Library Fund - lol library? I'm not poor

Water conservancy - WTF am I conserving? There's water in my fucking pipes in the house and out back in the pool. Fuck your water.

Local/State School Fund - This is 90% of the bill. I have zero children. I wish more people would have zero children. I don't want to educate your fuck trophies, and I believe that if you had to pay per child each year for school, you'd stop fucking having more kids because your white trash ass can't afford them.

General Fund - You're not even trying to hide the graft anymore. General fund? Seriously?

Mosquito Abatement - This is the only fucking thing I agree with and use. It's a whole 11$ for the year too.

So basically, of my entire property tax bill, if it were an ala cart menu, I'd order 11$ worth of shit and my quality of life wouldn't change one bit. There's no cost for garbage services or police/fire in this unless its the 'general fund' bullshit. I'd probably kick in a little for the fire department and trash collection then but thats it.

And ok, I'll be honest. The Utah property tax rate is fire sale cheap compared to Florida, or Chicago. I get that. It's basically 1/2 of what I paid for a house in Florida worth 1/3 of what my house is worth here and its 1/6 of my brother's property tax bill outside of Chicago for a 1800 sq foot house in the suburbs. But honestly, its ALL too much especially when you're not using any of it.

The first year I went in to pay it in person because they had some errors on the first year's taxes and I had gotten paperwork to amend it. The lady there asked if there were any other problems with it and I causally said, yeah, it's not $0. She laughed a little and said, oh its not that bad compared to some places to which I replied, well, some people like having sex with animals too, so I guess that can't be that bad either.

Morale of the story; my property taxes shouldn't be paying for anyone's obligations but my own. Stop having fucking kids you can't afford and no, I don't want to fund your bullshit project/program. I've somewhat considered running for mayor on basically, 'raise your hand if you want to gut property taxes down to just paying for what we actually 110% need'.

Fuck those faggots.

 

[QuickNDirty]

Libraries have to get money to pay these assholes somehow, kraut. You some kinda homophobic?

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/watch-drag-queen-admits-hes-grooming-children-at-story-hour-events

 

[MtnCreek]

How do y'all have mosquito problems? Don't y'all get about 5" rain in a year?

There may be conservation programs available to you to reduce your prop tax. Worth looking into.

 

[TheGerman]

How do y'all have mosquito problems? Don't y'all get about 5" rain in a year?

There may be conservation programs available to you to reduce your prop tax. Worth looking into.

We get like no rain. But I'm more willing to pay for the mosquito abatement than I am for schools when I have zero kids and everyone else around here has like 7 of them.

 

[leftyk82]

My brother in law and I had a similar discussion the other day.

I buy a car - pay sales tax once
I earn income - pay income tax for the income earned that year (only repeated because I earn more income next year)
I buy a house and land - pay property tax each year

Mine is also not expensive when compared to other places. But it doesn't make it right. Or logical.

 

[W54/XM-388]

Property tax here while not as bad as other states is still very painful.

Stupid greedy school districts deciding their precious little children "need" 100 million dollar football stadiums to get their education.

The government shouldn't be able to tax you out of the property you own, which is exactly what it is. In my case it's practically gotten to be about as much as the mortgage payment, but endlessly to the government just to keep what I paid for... but "it's for the children". The city takes maybe 15% of the money and the rest goes to the stupid communist school districts.


Yet another reason why I don't support allowing any people illegally in this country to get any services including schooling for their children... go back to their home countries.

 

[TheGerman]

Property tax here while not as bad as other states is still very painful.

Stupid greedy school districts deciding their precious little children "need" 100 million dollar football stadiums to get their education.

The government shouldn't be able to tax you out of the property you own, which is exactly what it is. In my case it's practically gotten to be about as much as the mortgage payment, but endlessly to the government just to keep what I paid for... but "it's for the children". The city takes maybe 15% of the money and the rest goes to the stupid communist school districts.


Yet another reason why I don't support allowing any people illegally in this country to get any services including schooling for their children... go back to their home countries.

If I wasn't living in the middle of mormonville where they will lockstep vote for a braindead mormon over any qualified non mormon, I'd run on cutting property taxes down to an absolute bare minimum with a 'I don't give a fuck' look on my face.

 

[PinesAndProjectiles]

If I wasn't living in the middle of mormonville where they will lockstep vote for a braindead mormon over any qualified non mormon, I'd run on cutting property taxes down to an absolute bare minimum with a 'I don't give a fuck' look on my face.

You would have my vote.

 

[davsco]

look, we're either paying property taxes to fund all the gov't employees' salaries, or we're paying more income taxes to fund all their unemployment payments.

but yeah i hate paying taxes and certainly more taxes.

no kids here, so all the money going towards schools isn't helping me. and all the money for more roads isn't helping either, that just means more move here and we then need even more roads.

 

[W54/XM-388]

If I wasn't living in the middle of mormonville where they will lockstep vote for a braindead mormon over any qualified non mormon, I'd run on cutting property taxes down to an absolute bare minimum with a 'I don't give a fuck' look on my face.

You could join them & then run, but that would kind of defeat your purpose as then you'd have another 10% income tax that you would have to pay which would probably ruin any property tax savings you could hope for.

 

[TAHK]

The county increased mine every year

 

[Badfinger]

Truly is "Taxation without representation"

 

[2ndamendfan]

Not because I can't afford it, but because I don't use 98% of what the fuck I'm being billed for.

Procrastinating until the last day, because fuck them getting this any sooner than I have to pay it, and I'm just having a hard time sending this to them. Basically, this bullshit bill is for:

Library Fund - lol library? I'm not poor

Water conservancy - WTF am I conserving? There's water in my fucking pipes in the house and out back in the pool. Fuck your water.

Local/State School Fund - This is 90% of the bill. I have zero children. I wish more people would have zero children. I don't want to educate your fuck trophies, and I believe that if you had to pay per child each year for school, you'd stop fucking having more kids because your white trash ass can't afford them.

General Fund - You're not even trying to hide the graft anymore. General fund? Seriously?

Mosquito Abatement - This is the only fucking thing I agree with and use. It's a whole 11$ for the year too.

So basically, of my entire property tax bill, if it were an ala cart menu, I'd order 11$ worth of shit and my quality of life wouldn't change one bit. There's no cost for garbage services or police/fire in this unless its the 'general fund' bullshit. I'd probably kick in a little for the fire department and trash collection then but thats it.

And ok, I'll be honest. The Utah property tax rate is fire sale cheap compared to Florida, or Chicago. I get that. It's basically 1/2 of what I paid for a house in Florida worth 1/3 of what my house is worth here and its 1/6 of my brother's property tax bill outside of Chicago for a 1800 sq foot house in the suburbs. But honestly, its ALL too much especially when you're not using any of it.

The first year I went in to pay it in person because they had some errors on the first year's taxes and I had gotten paperwork to amend it. The lady there asked if there were any other problems with it and I causally said, yeah, it's not $0. She laughed a little and said, oh its not that bad compared to some places to which I replied, well, some people like having sex with animals too, so I guess that can't be that bad either.

Morale of the story; my property taxes shouldn't be paying for anyone's obligations but my own. Stop having fucking kids you can't afford and no, I don't want to fund your bullshit project/program. I've somewhat considered running for mayor on basically, 'raise your hand if you want to gut property taxes down to just paying for what we actually 110% need'.

Fuck those faggots.

I was thinking about posting the exact same thing about 3 hours ago when I paid mine. In Utah also and I feel your pain. I know people who keep having kids just for the tax write offs.

I feel property tax is total bullshit, I already paid sales tax and income tax on everything I own. Now I have to pay just to keep it.

 

[Shooter McGavin]

Property taxes are theft. Don't pay them and you will lose your property. Because of this you don't really own your property, the government owns it. They're just nice enough to let you stay there, until you stop paying them of course.

 

[2ndamendfan]

The county increased mine every year

With the "cost of living" raise that happens every year and home values going up around here, mine was up 18% over last year.

 

[THEIS]

Hi,

No kids in Utah....they look at you like an enigma lol.
Crazy timing on this post because I am making appointments to view property in BFE Tennessee to get out from under the Texas, Harris county tax thumb.

I have no kids either and pay for these damn million dollar football stadiums for high school kids.

Sincerely,
Theis

 

[ArmyJerry]

Shut up and pay, tax slave

 

[thejeep]

Bfe tn? What part?

 

[THEIS]

Bfe tn? What part?

Hi,

Savannah.. outside of Savannah.

Sincerely,
Theis

 

[missed]

Yeah i love my government rent bill..... At least no state income tax to pay here. Tax assessors officers are crooks! I'd rather deal with the IRS than these crooked fuckers.

 

[Rthur]

This is the position you get in Chicago land:

I've paid for a small/medium village of students in our tax district.

R

 

[my human host]

I absolutely agree that people with kids in school need to be billed differently than those of us that do not.

It would increase parental participation and most likely slow down population growth. Overpopulation is a root cause of most of our problems, including 2nd amendment infringement.

 

[GrandpaDeadLegs]

I think you'll be better off if all those idiot white trash kids go to school and graduate and become professionals, thus being able to pay more taxes to allow the gov to increase your future benefits as a 90 year old vegetable with ten more years to live thanks to immunotherapy...

Just sayin

 

[quietmike]

Taxes should be based on a user fee system.
The fire department puts out your house, your fire insurance pays them.
You get arrested, the police bill is part of your court costs.
Same with kids in school, trash pickup, and everything else.

But that would eliminate redistribution to deadbeat bums whose only job is to vote D every two years.

 

[2ndamendfan]

Taxes should be based on a user fee system.
The fire department puts out your house, your fire insurance pays them.
You get arrested, the police bill is part of your court costs.
Same with kids in school, trash pickup, and everything else.

But that would eliminate redistribution to deadbeat bums whose only job is to vote D every two years.

I would go for that if they actually stuck to it. I am not sure about the fire dept (bet it is the same though) around here if you need an ambulance ride you will get a bill. And it ain't cheap.
Had a friend, who had an ATV accident at the sand dunes (broken leg I believe). The local sheriff has a "sand rail" for extraction from the dunes, ( ambulance can't drive in sand like that). The EMTs came out in the sand rail (dune buggy per-se) and drove her to the ambulance about 1/4 mile away. which then decide that the hospital was to far away (possible internal injuries, closest trauma hospital over 2 hrs away) so the ambulance drove 300 yards to the Heli-pad. On busy weekends they keep a life flight chopper at the dunes. Loaded her up and flew her away. About 8 weeks later she gets a bill for just under $40,000. The sand rail was $2000, the Ambulance $5,000 and the helicopter was the rest.
I believe car accidents are treated the same. Not sure if you have a heart attack at home if they do the same, but I would bet so.
This comes up on the news every 5 years or so and the answer is taxes pay for "stand by costs", the billing of "services" is the actually user fee.

 

[W54/XM-388]

I would go for that if they actually stuck to it. I am not sure about the fire dept (bet it is the same though) around hear if you need an ambulance ride you will get a bill. And it ain't cheap.
Had a friend, who had an ATV accident at the sand dunes (broken leg I believe). The local sheriff has a "sand rail" for extraction from the dunes, ( ambulance can't drive in sand like that). The EMTs came out in the sand rail (dune buggy per-se) and drove her to the ambulance about 1/4 mile away. which then decide that the hospital was to far away (possible internal injuries, closest trauma hospital over 2 hrs away) so the ambulance drove 300 yards to the Heli-pad. On busy weekends they keep a life flight chopper at the dunes. Loaded her up and flew her away. About 8 weeks later she gets a bill for just under $40,000. The sand rail was $2000, the Ambulance $5,000 and the helicopter was the rest.
I believe car accidents are treated the same. Not sure if you have a heart attack at home if they do the same, but I would bet so.
This comes up on the news every 5 years or so and the answer is taxes pay for "stand by costs", the billing of "services" is the actually user fee.

On this end, care flight has a special offer where you can pay them for insurance that if in the 5 year period you need their services, they give you a discounted rate & try to work it out with your insurance company.

Based on the people that wound up having that insurance vs not, I'd highly recommend it.

 

[GrandpaDeadLegs]

Taxes should be based on a user fee system.
The fire department puts out your house, your fire insurance pays them.
You get arrested, the police bill is part of your court costs.
Same with kids in school, trash pickup, and everything else.

But that would eliminate redistribution to deadbeat bums whose only job is to vote D every two years.

What about when my fire and police showed up to deal with the drunk driver that crashed into my ditch? She was from three towns over but I am pretty sure my walnut tree paid the bill for some of that. It's all shady math, and when the township can't keep a perfect budget going, they have to raise taxes to fix their mistakes.

They do have a trick I think should be stopped:

Library is in the red budget wise a little and has a little building.

Give voters only two options: let the whole library die a slow death, or raise taxes to build a nicer building.

What happened to raise taxes a tiny little bit to keep the budget right for the little old library to stay open? Seems like that middle third option isn't very profitable politically but would keep little kids reading free books...

 

[308220]

We had a school levy fail 6 times in a row here. They wanted $20M to build a new elementary/high school. They kept putting it on the ballot. Year after year. While letting the current schools crumble. Literally. They put zero money back into them for maintenance. Every night on the local news was a sad story about how the schools were falling down.

The levy finally passed last year. No ground has been broke and no blue prints have been made public. But, we're paying more in taxes now! Yay!

 

[quietmike]

What about when my fire and police showed up to deal with the drunk driver that crashed into my ditch? She was from three towns over but I am pretty sure my walnut tree paid the bill for some of that. It's all shady math, and when the township can't keep a perfect budget going, they have to raise taxes to fix their mistakes.

...

The drunk driver pays. They're already hit with fines and court costs, so what's one more?

 

[Alphatreedog]

Fuck Trophy . Ha Ha Ha . That's funny shit . I'm gonna wear that on out .

 

[missed]

On this end, care flight has a special offer where you can pay them for insurance that if in the 5 year period you need their services, they give you a discounted rate & try to work it out with your insurance company.

Based on the people that wound up having that insurance vs not, I'd highly recommend it.

We have it, it could makea huge difference!

 

[wildcats]

Paying taxes every year for land you already own and paid taxes for when you bought it...something is wrong with this picture.
Meanwhile, religious institutions,so call, non profit organizations get a free pass.
Extortion at best.

 

[THEIS]

Hi,

Ok so I am going to start a new religion and name it "1st Assembly of Second Amendment"....

Sincerely,
Theis

 

[ArmyJerry]

people with kids should get paid by the fucks without kids, they will be paying your Social Security because we fucked them over. Shut the fuck up, you fucked the next 3 generations and you dont want to pay for their schooling?

I absolutely agree that people with kids in school need to be billed differently than those of us that do not.

It would increase parental participation and most likely slow down population growth. Overpopulation is a root cause of most of our problems, including 2nd amendment infringement.

 

[Nik H]

I absolutely agree that people with kids in school need to be billed differently than those of us that do not.

It would increase parental participation and most likely slow down population growth. Overpopulation is a root cause of most of our problems, including 2nd amendment infringement.

I have 6 kids that all shoot and 5 are ardent 2A supporters...even the 11 year old girl can shoot. The problem isn't the number of kids you have but how lazy the parents are. Being a role model takes work that most parents neither understand nor want. Success breeds success. My oldest three pay more income and social security tax than most people far older than them and will likely be supporting you in your old age....hint

 

[JMGlasgow]

Here in Cheyenne the community college put a property tax increase on the ballot and enough idiots voted for it to be passed. Need more money, raise tuition. That's how it works. In fact, the city and county got enough votes to raise all taxes on the ballot. When will people learn...

I personally will never vote for any tax, don't care what it's for the answer is no.

 

[Bender]

Here in Cheyenne the community college put a property tax increase on the ballot and enough idiots voted for it to be passed. Need more money, raise tuition. That's how it works. In fact, the city and county got enough votes to raise all taxes on the ballot. When will people learn...

I personally will never vote for any tax, don't care what it's for the answer is no.

I too vote no for every tax put in front of me.

 

[wildcats]

This is the position you get in Chicago land:
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I've paid for a small/medium village of students in our tax district.

R

 

[wildcats]

Here in Cheyenne the community college put a property tax increase on the ballot and enough idiots voted for it to be passed. Need more money, raise tuition. That's how it works. In fact, the city and county got enough votes to raise all taxes on the ballot. When will people learn...

I personally will never vote for any tax, don't care what it's for the answer is no.

How about a vote to raise taxes for libs that don't own firearms.

 

[JMGlasgow]

Nope, if they don't want to own a gun, it's their choice. I'm against any and all taxes no matter which side of the isle you're on.

 

[W54/XM-388]

I too vote no for every tax put in front of me.

I vote no religiously.
But we get outvoted by idiots, renters & apartment dwellers.

 

[JMGlasgow]

 

[Stevo86]

Property taxes are theft. Don't pay them and you will lose your property. Because of this you don't really own your property, the government owns it. They're just nice enough to let you stay there, until you stop paying them of course.

This ^^^ Yes I love renting my house that I paid for from the government.... fucking bullshit.

 

[308pirate]

When the balloon drops, fuck going to torch DC. I'm going to my county courthouse and school board building to settle scores.

 

[Sako man]

Uncle sam be like NOM NOM NOM!

 

[Scott_RAP]

I live in Texas where property taxes are substituted for state income taxes, both of which are fundamentally un-American, particularly as administered and applied. As many have already rightly pointed out, the term ‘homeowner’ is a misnomer since not only do I not have an exclusive right to my home, but it can also be seized from me for failure to pay my government mandated and enforced yearly tribute for “services”. In my particular area, those services include the police and fire departments, the local school district, and Parkland hospital, among others. Each of those are services that I should be able to opt out of (just as I should be able to opt out of medical insurance coverage) as long as I accept full responsibility for my choices (which in my view is a wholly American principle). However, even if I elect to partake of those services, I have no choice but to pay a disparate amount of tribute compared to my fellow citizens based upon arbitrary and unjust assessments.

Income and property taxes assessments are increasingly presented as being determined by everyone paying their fair share, particularly those who have more. In the case of income tax, this manifests in the form of progressively higher tax rates based upon increasing levels of income. Some would propose the solution to this being a flat tax rate. This is better, but still unfair. Property taxes (in Texas, anyway) are levied at a fixed percentage of your home’s appraised value. This is already unfair in that in penalizes those who improve their properties more. The insult to this injury is the fact that unelected county officials determine that appraisal value with impunity. In my particular case, the appraised value of my home jumped up by over 20% in the last year alone and is in excess of my home’s market value.

To get to my point, do I receive more and better government in proportion to what I pay in income taxes? I do not. Do I receive more and better municipal services in proportion to what I pay in property taxes. I do not. This is known as getting screwed without getting kissed.

Therefore, in the absence of a flat fee for government services, I am now self-identifying as an unidentifiable entity. Since by my own definition and personal mandate you cannot consider me a person, you also cannot tax me as such. Social convention seems to be that you must accept this without question. For you SJWs that are having trouble grasping this concept, you can think of me as being analogous to an undocumented immigrant (who apparently also cannot be taxed), except I only want to keep what I have fairly earned and take responsibility for myself.

 

[TheGerman]

Uncle sam be like NOM NOM NOM!

I’m at a Korean BBQ place with my wife and I just spit food across the table laughing at this.

 

[hic28]

Hi,

Ok so I am going to start a new religion and name it "1st Assembly of Second Amendment"....

Sincerely,
Theis

I started one a while back with some friends. GGGA - the Church of Guns, Girls, Gasoline and Alcohol. Not specifically in that order, but it covers all my favorite things.

As for property tax, I still think you need to own property to have a say. All these fucking appartment peasants getting to have a say on how much more I pay pisses me the fuck off. And then they have the nerve to get pissed at me when I raise the rent 15% each year. Fuck you.

 

[GrandpaDeadLegs]

The drunk driver pays. They're already hit with fines and court costs, so what's one more?

Her ability to pay was, let's say, questionable...

Also here in MI they outlawed the driver responsibility fees because no one could afford them.

Taxes on people with no money doesn't work, in a couple years they would have hit a billion dollars in unpaid fees - people with real jobs are just going to have to keep paying because they have the real money and assets. Don't wanna pay taxes? Don't be a big man! No truck, no farm, no job, no taxes! Build a yurt in the forest and go hunting all day, etc... No one is gonna find you we are busy on Instagram

 

[powdahound76]

I’m at a Korean BBQ place with my wife and I just spit food across the table laughing at this.

Why are you reading some douchebags post ranting about taxes while having dinner with your lovely wife?