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Re: I'm new to suppressors and need advice
You're in Texas so Shark Suppressors is an easy suggestion. Buy once and do it right.
You're in Texas so Shark Suppressors is an easy suggestion. Buy once and do it right.
Re: I'm new to suppressors and need advice
You wont be disappointed with the Cyclone. Minimal shift, not to heavy, and tough as nails in my opinion. You will want to contact RO for a mirage shield, after about ten rounds the mirage is a pain.
You wont be disappointed with the Cyclone. Minimal shift, not to heavy, and tough as nails in my opinion. You will want to contact RO for a mirage shield, after about ten rounds the mirage is a pain.
Re: I'm new to suppressors and need advice
I just got the AWC Thunder trap and can't be happier, when I was shopping for a can I almost went with the Yankee hill but decided to spend the extra dough. Also super quiet as well, I was shooting next to a guy with a Yankee hill and the Thunder trap was much quieter. Since you have to wait for the stamp might as well buy a can that is exceptional quality. You don't want to go thru the wait to be dissapointed. Plus the price difference usually is only a couple hundred at most.
I just got the AWC Thunder trap and can't be happier, when I was shopping for a can I almost went with the Yankee hill but decided to spend the extra dough. Also super quiet as well, I was shooting next to a guy with a Yankee hill and the Thunder trap was much quieter. Since you have to wait for the stamp might as well buy a can that is exceptional quality. You don't want to go thru the wait to be dissapointed. Plus the price difference usually is only a couple hundred at most.
Re: I'm new to suppressors and need advice
The Cyclone is a top quality suppressor for sure. The latest revision is a lot lighter weight than the model of just a couple years ago. Back when the Cyclone was heavier it also had a different baffle stack. It was more comparable in weight and sound performance to the SWR Omega-30 at that point but the Omega beat the Cyclone in POI shift. When AAC put the Cyclone on a diet they also changed the baffle stack. The latest model is quieter, typically has little POI shift and is only 22.4 oz.
The Omega is still a good suppressor though and worthy of consideration.
AAC also has the Cyclone-K model. It is a little shorter (8.25" compared to 9.5" for the Cyclone) and lighter (18.5 oz). It is a bit louder but sound more like the AAC 762-SD fast-attach suppressor.
The Ops Inc 12th Model is another model I suggest considering. It is neither a "fast-attach" nor a thread-mount offering. It is more of a hybrid. It uses a muzzle brake for the front part of the mount and a rear collar locks the suppressor tight to the weapon. Unlike many "fast-attach" suppressors the Ops products do not leak any gas around the mount area. The Ops mounting system keeps the suppressor rock solid on the host and the POI shift of the Ops stuff is amazing (meaning typically little if any). Ops Inc products rank among my favorites for sure.
Lastly, I strongly second the suggestion of contacting Rifles Only to get a suppressor wrap. They (Tony Burke) will custom make what you need based on the measurements of the suppressor. Tony is a stand-up guy for sure. I don't ever drag my precision rifles to the range without my suppressor wraps.
Mark
The Cyclone is a top quality suppressor for sure. The latest revision is a lot lighter weight than the model of just a couple years ago. Back when the Cyclone was heavier it also had a different baffle stack. It was more comparable in weight and sound performance to the SWR Omega-30 at that point but the Omega beat the Cyclone in POI shift. When AAC put the Cyclone on a diet they also changed the baffle stack. The latest model is quieter, typically has little POI shift and is only 22.4 oz.
The Omega is still a good suppressor though and worthy of consideration.
AAC also has the Cyclone-K model. It is a little shorter (8.25" compared to 9.5" for the Cyclone) and lighter (18.5 oz). It is a bit louder but sound more like the AAC 762-SD fast-attach suppressor.
The Ops Inc 12th Model is another model I suggest considering. It is neither a "fast-attach" nor a thread-mount offering. It is more of a hybrid. It uses a muzzle brake for the front part of the mount and a rear collar locks the suppressor tight to the weapon. Unlike many "fast-attach" suppressors the Ops products do not leak any gas around the mount area. The Ops mounting system keeps the suppressor rock solid on the host and the POI shift of the Ops stuff is amazing (meaning typically little if any). Ops Inc products rank among my favorites for sure.
Lastly, I strongly second the suggestion of contacting Rifles Only to get a suppressor wrap. They (Tony Burke) will custom make what you need based on the measurements of the suppressor. Tony is a stand-up guy for sure. I don't ever drag my precision rifles to the range without my suppressor wraps.
Mark
Re: I'm new to suppressors and need advice
The Cyclone is a top notch can.
Its spooky quiet with Subsonic ammo and its very light. compared to many of its competitors.
The Cyclone is a top notch can.
Its spooky quiet with Subsonic ammo and its very light. compared to many of its competitors.
Re: I'm new to suppressors and need advice
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bdug</div><div class="ubbcode-body">i think that the ops requires major cutting on the barrel(several inches back), and i don't think i'm ready to do that. </div></div>
Yes, you are correct. That is the slight downside to the Ops products or something like the AAC SCAR-H SD, SureFire SS, etc. or anything else that is a reflex design. You need some extra barrel profiling to install the mounts. You don't have that issue with a direct thread-mount suppressor or some fast-attach designs.
You'll like the Cyclone a lot.
Mark
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bdug</div><div class="ubbcode-body">i think that the ops requires major cutting on the barrel(several inches back), and i don't think i'm ready to do that. </div></div>
Yes, you are correct. That is the slight downside to the Ops products or something like the AAC SCAR-H SD, SureFire SS, etc. or anything else that is a reflex design. You need some extra barrel profiling to install the mounts. You don't have that issue with a direct thread-mount suppressor or some fast-attach designs.
You'll like the Cyclone a lot.
Mark
Re: I'm new to suppressors and need advice
No doubt, the Cyclone is probably the best bang for the buck in terms of suppression, weight, and size. And if you only want to use it on your one bolt gun then it is a great choice. But it's not as convenient as a quick detach can.
Gem-Tech has really solved the first round pop with their HVT. But it is pretty heavy.
I ended up choosing the newest AAC 762SD. I found it had the right mix of performance, price, size, weight, and convenience that I was looking for.
YHM cans are cheap, but they are also big and loud.
If the 762SD had been available 8-10 years ago, I wouldn't have bought my first generation M4-2000. The 762SD will work great on 5.56mm weapons as well - so you can just buy one rifle can and shoot everything from .223 through .30 caliber through it.
No doubt, the Cyclone is probably the best bang for the buck in terms of suppression, weight, and size. And if you only want to use it on your one bolt gun then it is a great choice. But it's not as convenient as a quick detach can.
Gem-Tech has really solved the first round pop with their HVT. But it is pretty heavy.
I ended up choosing the newest AAC 762SD. I found it had the right mix of performance, price, size, weight, and convenience that I was looking for.
YHM cans are cheap, but they are also big and loud.
If the 762SD had been available 8-10 years ago, I wouldn't have bought my first generation M4-2000. The 762SD will work great on 5.56mm weapons as well - so you can just buy one rifle can and shoot everything from .223 through .30 caliber through it.
Re: I'm new to suppressors and need advice
I would become a member of Silencer Research if you are serious about finding the best one. John Titsworth is an independent evaluator and did a 2008 .30 caliber test of eleven major brand suppressors.
Some are hearing safe and others are not. AAC has the most marketing (and trash talking) of any manufacturer out there and the Website SilencerTalk is owned by them so don't expect unbiased product evaluations.
Gemtech and AAC are probably the most stocked suppressor brands, but there are some out there that may offer better value or sound reduction depending on what you are looking for. In my opinion it is worth spending the $30 to see the results of the test because dealers will often talk up how good the one that has been on their shelf for a year or two is to get it out of their store.
I personally own an HTG M-30A, which is well under $1000 and does excellent on .308 down to .22. It has not yet been evaluated by Silencer Research but my own experience is positive.
Any suppressor is a major investment in time and money, so it would be good to know you made the most informed decision you can while you wait 6 months for the paperwork to come back before you get to try it out.
I would become a member of Silencer Research if you are serious about finding the best one. John Titsworth is an independent evaluator and did a 2008 .30 caliber test of eleven major brand suppressors.
Some are hearing safe and others are not. AAC has the most marketing (and trash talking) of any manufacturer out there and the Website SilencerTalk is owned by them so don't expect unbiased product evaluations.
Gemtech and AAC are probably the most stocked suppressor brands, but there are some out there that may offer better value or sound reduction depending on what you are looking for. In my opinion it is worth spending the $30 to see the results of the test because dealers will often talk up how good the one that has been on their shelf for a year or two is to get it out of their store.
I personally own an HTG M-30A, which is well under $1000 and does excellent on .308 down to .22. It has not yet been evaluated by Silencer Research but my own experience is positive.
Any suppressor is a major investment in time and money, so it would be good to know you made the most informed decision you can while you wait 6 months for the paperwork to come back before you get to try it out.
Re: I'm new to suppressors and need advice
The problem with the Silencer Research test is that it's a sample of what was available to him at the time. No Ops Inc, SF, AWC, AAC SCAR HD, Shark, SAS can was in that test. All those mentioned should do well in the comparison, except for maybe the SF, which from all I have ever heard from is a pretty loud can.
The problem with the Silencer Research test is that it's a sample of what was available to him at the time. No Ops Inc, SF, AWC, AAC SCAR HD, Shark, SAS can was in that test. All those mentioned should do well in the comparison, except for maybe the SF, which from all I have ever heard from is a pretty loud can.
