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Is something going on in Ukraine?
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Saw they are sending another Billion today.....and that Ukrainians are *testing* US M4 rifles.
Can no longer find the story about the billion dollars (they buried that one quick).
Can no longer find the story about the billion dollars (they buried that one quick).
Where did the last 40 billion go? Oops, no one can answer that; since they (except for Rand Paul) didn't want an inspector general to oversee the $$.
i think i saw some kind of breakdown...with something like $22m going to us defense contractors like ratheon...
Yes, the U.S. has pledged the most aid to Ukraine of any country
The U.S. has pledged far more aid to Ukraine than any other country in the world — even before Biden passed a $40 billion aid bill.
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But why? That’s the real question.Yes, the U.S. has pledged the most aid to Ukraine of any country
The U.S. has pledged far more aid to Ukraine than any other country in the world — even before Biden passed a $40 billion aid bill.
So is that "pledged" and not given, you know like Amber Herd?Yes, the U.S. has pledged the most aid to Ukraine of any country
The U.S. has pledged far more aid to Ukraine than any other country in the world — even before Biden passed a $40 billion aid bill.
It's alright, they'll just print more. Don't worry about it.Yes, the U.S. has pledged the most aid to Ukraine of any country
The U.S. has pledged far more aid to Ukraine than any other country in the world — even before Biden passed a $40 billion aid bill.
And that's why we need to go full Sacario on their asses.
"Why can't we hit them with missles?"
Some guy...
Top US general Mark Milley says the ‘numbers clearly favor the Russians’ in east Ukraine right now
Putin's forces still have the edge in artillery, Milley said, noting that the current fighting in east Ukraine "is not a done deal."
Some fat guy in Washington D.C. is stating the obvious.
FIFYTop US general Mark Milley says the ‘numbers clearly favor the Russians’ in east Ukraine right now
Putin's forces still have the edge in artillery, Milley said, noting that the current fighting in east Ukraine "is not a done deal."www.yahoo.com
Some piece of shit scumbag traitor in Washington D.C. is stating the obvious.
because it much of it gets laundered and goes back to politicians (how else was poor ukraine the clinton foundation's largest donor?)
most of the rest is distributed to various Soros connected NGOs, and so millions came back to elect progressive liberal district attorneys all over the country and to help steal elections...
When do we get help? If I cross the border in TX and crawl back in can I get some $$?
........ and therein lies the problem. The FED Reserve can raise interest rates to the moon but as long as the free money printing presses are running wide open, nothing will improve... Like a cat chasing it's tail.
Well, after 3 months of war, and 138 pages of discussion on the Hide, I think we can rest assured, the answer to the original question of this thread, "Is something going on in Ukraine", would be an outstanding:
yes.
yes.
How come we can monitor China but we can't monitor our southern border ?
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"The United States and Europe have warned China against providing Russia military assistance or systematic assistance with sanctions evasion. We are monitoring China's activity closely," says the @StateDept spokesperson
Because they don't want to.
Ukrainian military shot down Russian Mi-35M helicopter with MANPADS today
French Lieutenant Colonel Jacques Guillemain: “Ukrainian soldiers are entrenched in the cities”
By Jacques Guillemain and Continental ObserverGlobal Research, May 24, 2022
Continental Observer 19 May 2022
Region: Europe, Russia and FSU
Theme: Media Disinformation
In-depth Report: UKRAINE REPORT
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Continental Observer: Concerning the characteristics of the Russian special military operation in Ukraine. How can an independent expert explain and comment on this?
Jacques Guillemain: First of all, I thank you for this interview, which allows us to contradict the dominant anti-Russian discourse. One day, historians will be able to sort out the truth from the falsehood. I do not claim to be an “independent expert”, but the observation of the real facts allows one to form an opinion, free from any one-sided propaganda. Every war has multiple reasons, and the key to any analysis is to remain objective. This is not the case in the Western camp, which is totally enslaved to Washington’s narrative, which amounts to designating Putin as the aggressor and sole culprit. The disinformation is insane.
However, for Vladimir Putin, it is above all a question of ensuring the security of Russia and its people, threatened by constant pressure from NATO since 1990.
It is all the same dismaying to hear that Russia is the aggressor, when NATO, despite the dissolution of the Warsaw Pact in 1991, has found nothing better than to integrate 14 countries of the former USSR, thus going from 16 countries in 1990 to 30 members in 2022 and soon 32, with Sweden and Finland.
I would add that the Minsk agreements signed in 2015 by Ukraine, Russia, Germany and France, providing for autonomy for the pro-Russian republics of Donbass, have never been respected. A war waged by Kiev against the separatist republics resulted in 13,000 deaths, but who is talking about it? And, it is proven that Kiev was preparing an attack on the separatists for March 2022, a reality that precipitated the Russian offensive. Putin does not want missiles on Ukrainian soil, just as Kennedy did not want them in Cuba in 1962. An obvious fact that our Western “experts” prefer to hide.
CO: Why is the German practice of creating “Festung” – fortress cities with civilians as “human shields” – visible in the actions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU)?
JG: Urban warfare is the response of the weak to the strong. It is estimated that in open terrain, the balance of power between the attacker and the defender must be 3 to 1 to ensure victory. But it increases to 6 or 10 to 1 in an urban war. An exorbitant cost for the attacker. A suicidal option that Putin refused in Kiev. There is no question of conquering the city district by district, house by house. There is no question of razing a city of 2.5 million inhabitants and adding up the civilian casualties, as the enemy does not hesitate to take over inhabited buildings, hospitals and even schools to protect itself from the Russian artillery.
“The Ukrainian Army has been Defeated”: Analysis of CIA Veteran Larry C. Johnson
It is obvious that the Ukrainian army has no chance of resisting the Russian army in a frontal clash in open terrain. The Ukrainians have never carried out any large-scale attacks and have totally suffered the invasion of the first three days of the war. Since then, the front has stabilized over 1000 km long and 150 km wide. The Ukrainians understood that urban warfare was their salvation, and this is what they practice, which explains the destruction in many cities, even if the Russians target only military objectives, not wanting to raze the cities and kill civilians.
In 1944, Hitler proposed the idea of “Festung” in cities that had operational or strategic importance. The enemy had to occupy these “strongholds” first in order to free up transportation routes for a new offensive. In August 1944, American troops began the siege of the French port of Brest. It was turned into a “Festung” by the German general, Bernhard Ramke, who held the defense for 43 days before surrendering. Many inhabitants of Brest were killed, starved to death or perished under the rubble.
CO: Can we see a similar military strategy with the Ukrainian army?
JG: Warfare in the shelter of fortresses has existed since the dawn of time. Messada, Alesia, Constantinople, to name only the most famous sieges. The Middle Ages were built around castles, these fortresses that were most often besieged, waiting for famine and disease to do the work instead of weapons. Therefore, it is understandable that the Ukrainian soldiers are entrenched in the cities. But, we must not forget that the Russians are perfectly informed about the targets to be destroyed. When Ukrainian soldiers hide in a civilian building, it becomes a military target, with the risk of collateral losses. The Russians fear that in the Donbass, the Ukrainians will generalize an urban war like in Mariupol, which would lead to inevitable destruction and civilian casualties.
CO: In Ukrainian cities, Ukrainian armed forces have not only taken Ukrainian citizens hostage. According to the Russian Ministry of Defense, more than 7,500 foreigners are currently being held hostage in Ukrainian cities. Why don’t the French media talk about this?
JG: In this war, there is only one culprit, Putin, according to the Western narrative. Therefore, let’s not expect from our media the truth about the Ukrainian turpitude and exactions. We are never told about Kiev’s crimes in Donbass for eight years. Yes, it is the great silence on the civilians who are used as human shields, on the foreigners trapped by the war. But there is also a silence about the hundreds of foreign soldiers serving alongside Ukrainian soldiers, either as advisors or as mercenaries. We learn on the Russian side that NATO officers have been killed, but nothing filters through to the Ukrainian side. The best example is the Azovstal fortress, where Azov units, civilians and foreign soldiers were locked up. The siege of this factory seems to be over, since the civilians have been evacuated and 260 fighters have surrendered. The Russian command expects a lot from this partial surrender, rich in information of all kinds.
CO: During the war, the first strikes are made against the capital of the attacked state, the residence of its leader and the military headquarters. Why does Russia almost never strike the centers of political and military leadership, does not destroy key infrastructure – rail transport, communications, pipelines, bridges and other facilities for survival of the civilian population?
JG: In my opinion, Kiev was never a military objective for Putin. He probably thought that the Ukrainians would not object to the overthrow of a corrupt government, hated by the population. But Biden decided otherwise and saw in this Russian offensive, the unexpected opportunity to fight Russia by proxy. And Zelensky, manipulated by Washington, immediately took on the role of David against Goliath. The media artillery then took it upon itself to make the Ukrainian president the new Churchill and Putin a “butcher”. The result is that Ukraine, helped by forty nations, “resists” the Russian bear, but at what price? How many military losses? How many civilian victims? How much destruction? Only the Americans are the big winners of this useless relentlessness. Because Putin will not back down. Crimea and the Donbass will remain Russian. In my opinion, the “hero” Zelensky will have to answer to his people one day, for having refused to negotiate when there was still time. And, to answer the second part of your question, Putin never wanted to wage war on the brotherly Ukrainian people, but only on the regime in place and the Nazi units accused of abuses by Amnesty International and Human Right Watch. He first wanted to preserve all civilian infrastructures. He only decided to destroy them in order to block the convoys of arms supplied on a massive scale by the West.
CO: How do you explain the fact that Russia supplies Europe with gas via Ukraine?
JG: Putin would be wrong to deprive himself of this manna which brings him billions. He has almost doubled his income with the rise in prices, and these sales in rubles have enabled him to bring the ruble back to its pre-war level. As for the rights of passage that Ukraine receives, this is part of the give and take deals that we see in all conflicts.
CO: Why hasn’t Russia refused to honor the contracts?
JG: For the moment, Putin needs these contracts. Let’s not forget that the West has blocked, not to say stolen from Russia, $300 billion in foreign exchange reserves, half of the reserves of the Bank of Russia. A hold-up never seen in history. If France’s nominal GDP is 2500 billion euros, Russia’s is 1500 billion. Therefore, the main wealth of Russia, beyond its scientific geniuses, is its colossal mining resources, that is to say 20% of the world reserves!
CO: What position should France take in this conflict?
JG: A total neutrality. No arms to Ukraine, but massive humanitarian aid to the Ukrainian people. Secondly, I am in favor of leaving the integrated command of NATO, which has become an offensive alliance at the sole service of Uncle Sam and in particular the American arms lobby. We do not have to be the Americans’ auxiliaries in their colonial expeditions worthy of the 19th century. Adventures that have all ended in fiascos.
CO: Finally, Sweden and Finland have declared that they want to join NATO. What is your opinion on this decision?
JG: I am opposed to it, but I hear that Putin is ready to accept this double membership, provided that no NATO base is established in these countries. And if Biden plays with fire, we should not be surprised if the world relives a new Cuban missile crisis, that frightening game of “nuclear poker” that was played in 1962 and brought the planet to the brink of the Apocalypse. Because Putin is not Khrushchev…
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But they end up with this in the article: “Russia has lost strategically if we assume, as looks likely, that the objective of Putin was to take over Ukraine and transform it into a satellite state under Russian influence,” he said. “So in that respect, Russia has failed strategically. It is now blatantly obvious that Ukraine may not regain full control of all its territory, but it will remain an independent state and more importantly it will remain a state that will challenge Russian influence in the region.”
If this is what's passing the editors they need a new job. Writing an article about how poorly Russia is loosing based on an assumed objective and later on admitting that Russia gets to keep a segment of Ukraine isn't exactly consistent spin.
The oncoming recession / stagflation is working in Russia's favor.... Lip service from the Brit's is cheap....
Writing a blank check to Ukraine as the countries, worldwide, start to tighten their budget's will be another story.
Independent Journalist Facing PRISON For Reporting War Crimes Committed By Ukraine — Govt. FREEZES Family's Bank Accounts
The government has labeled an independent German journalist a "criminal" and frozen her bank account for reporting the truth about the Ukraine war. Alina Lipp
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They won't do it because they need it for surveillance.
Anyone with 2 brain cells can see the aid to Ukraine is dosed just enough to ensure war continues and to get as many Ukrainians killed as possible. More the merrier seems to be the program.
Official KIA numbers Ukraine admits to losing per day started at 100kia per day 10-14 days ago, doubled to 200 a day about a week ago on Wednesday they started talking 500kia per day. So now that would mean 2500+ casualties daily. Absolutely insane numbers.
''Up to 1,000 Ukrainian soldiers are being killed or wounded each day in the Donbas region of eastern Ukraine, with 200 to 500 killed on average and many more wounded, a top Ukrainian official said on Wednesday'' according to Axios , add to that absolutely failed offensive at Kherson where dead are yet to be reported.
Official KIA numbers Ukraine admits to losing per day started at 100kia per day 10-14 days ago, doubled to 200 a day about a week ago on Wednesday they started talking 500kia per day. So now that would mean 2500+ casualties daily. Absolutely insane numbers.
''Up to 1,000 Ukrainian soldiers are being killed or wounded each day in the Donbas region of eastern Ukraine, with 200 to 500 killed on average and many more wounded, a top Ukrainian official said on Wednesday'' according to Axios , add to that absolutely failed offensive at Kherson where dead are yet to be reported.
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Anyone with 2 brain cells can see the aid to Ukraine is dosed just enough to ensure war continues and to get as many Ukrainians killed as possible. More the merrier seems to be the program.
Official KIA numbers Ukraine admits to losing per day started at 100kia per day 10-14 days ago, doubled to 200 a day about a week ago on Wednesday they started talking 500kia per day. So now that would mean 2500+ casualties daily. Absolutely insane numbers.
''Up to 1,000 Ukrainian soldiers are being killed or wounded each day in the Donbas region of eastern Ukraine, with 200 to 500 killed on average and many more wounded, a top Ukrainian official said on Wednesday'' according to Axios , add to that absolutely failed offensive at Kerson
Pretty much every bullet point seen since the war in Ukraine. Good find!
OSCE Reports Reveal Ukraine Started Shelling The Donbas Nine Days Before Russia's 'Special Military Operation'
The Biden Administration, U.S. political officials, and the corporate media are lying the American public into World War III.
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The OSCE observer mission provides maps in daily reports documenting the location of ceasefire violations and explosions along the contact line between the Ukrainian military and the Donbas republics.
These maps clearly show that Ukraine began artillery strikes against the Donbas republics on February 16th, 2022.
In other words, Ukraine began shelling the independent republics of Donetsk and Luhansk nine days before Russia announced its ‘special military operation’ in Ukraine.
While the western corporate media remained completely silent, explosions documented by the OSCE increased from 76 on February 15th, to 316 on February 16th, to 654 on February 17th, and to 1,413 on February 18th.
When you look carefully at the daily maps of these explosions, it is clear that the vast majority of explosions occurred on the Russian separatist side of the ceasefire line.
They Russians are probably plying him with the best vodka, caviar and prostitutes that rubles can buy to get information out of him, or they might giving him other sorts of motivation to share his knowledge.
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Them Russians... probably...
But you westerners are really like a bunch of kids? Are you? Are you aware that if you come here fucking, the outcome will be that you'll be fucked? Europe you see are French, Welsh, Uk, Belgian, Danish, German, Italian etc.. pussies? You come east you'll be fucked like never before... History (not official one of the western civi.. should've thought you that you do no mess with barbarians...we do not care about you, we do not fear you, we do not bend to your will. Come here and find out. Freely just put your sorry asses here to the east and see what the humanity is all about... definitely not chivalry like Brits would want to sell their shit to you just mere fight for existence. Last time your ancestors fought that was 1870ish and your kind has no stomach for it in 2022 when your gelato is soft and your pizza is hard and your dick is limp and your women are fucking negroes and mestizos all day long as mainstay of america is caught in debate whether white is white and dick is dick. CUCKS the lot of you.... shame on you and your ancestors rolling in their graves. Such high hopes such a low landing....
But you westerners are really like a bunch of kids? Are you? Are you aware that if you come here fucking, the outcome will be that you'll be fucked? Europe you see are French, Welsh, Uk, Belgian, Danish, German, Italian etc.. pussies? You come east you'll be fucked like never before... History (not official one of the western civi.. should've thought you that you do no mess with barbarians...we do not care about you, we do not fear you, we do not bend to your will. Come here and find out. Freely just put your sorry asses here to the east and see what the humanity is all about... definitely not chivalry like Brits would want to sell their shit to you just mere fight for existence. Last time your ancestors fought that was 1870ish and your kind has no stomach for it in 2022 when your gelato is soft and your pizza is hard and your dick is limp and your women are fucking negroes and mestizos all day long as mainstay of america is caught in debate whether white is white and dick is dick. CUCKS the lot of you.... shame on you and your ancestors rolling in their graves. Such high hopes such a low landing....
So, in other words what you are trying to say is "Go Ukraine!"?
No you don't get it and you won't until you get CV 2.0 and then you will again yadda yadda brother killing brother again. You simply do not get it until you experience it on your hide and the way things are going that will be pretty soon.....
Chickens are coming (soon) home to roost...
What does this really mean?OSCE Reports Reveal Ukraine Started Shelling The Donbas Nine Days Before Russia's 'Special Military Operation'
The Biden Administration, U.S. political officials, and the corporate media are lying the American public into World War III.
The OSCE observer mission provides maps in daily reports documenting the location of ceasefire violations and explosions along the contact line between the Ukrainian military and the Donbas republics.
These maps clearly show that Ukraine began artillery strikes against the Donbas republics on February 16th, 2022.
In other words, Ukraine began shelling the independent republics of Donetsk and Luhansk nine days before Russia announced its ‘special military operation’ in Ukraine.
While the western corporate media remained completely silent, explosions documented by the OSCE increased from 76 on February 15th, to 316 on February 16th, to 654 on February 17th, and to 1,413 on February 18th.
When you look carefully at the daily maps of these explosions, it is clear that the vast majority of explosions occurred on the Russian separatist side of the ceasefire line.
Well, it depends. Ukraine looks at the Donbas as their country, Donbas voted to secede. How much did Russia influence this vote? Like Crimea?
Then there is the whole preparation for invasion that Russia/Belarus "war games"/build up just north of Ukraine's border, months before the invasion actually occurred.
I doubt that the recording of increased shelling of Donbas is the reason Russia invaded. It was planned and prepped for months before February.
Take everything regarding war with a huge grain of salt. It's better if you believe nothing from each side until there is irrefutable proof.
Fuck them both.
agree with grain of salt, but in this instance, we know our side are a bunch of liars (syria, afghanistan, iraq...).
not only should you suspect what they say might not be true, but you should assume they are lying (like the last 30 years).
remember, mcstain and graham went to ukraine in 2016 and promised them more weapons "to finally destroy the russians" and they delivered.
ukraine had amassed over 100k of their army around donbas in february, and they were going to attack, just like planned.
more than 90% of the people in crimea voted to be with russia.
why?
because the zelensky government is a bunch of corrupt puppets and idiots and that government has always been corrupt.
look at poor ukraine is after 30 years of western influence, compared to the rest of the region.
if that doesn't explain that is isn't "russian influence" and just common sense why the people are sick of the ukrainian government.
Not good. A very dangerous development:
sonar21.com
In a move of staggering stupidity and hubris, Lithuanian banned the transit of Russian goods to Kaliningrad effective today, June 18, 2022. Kaliningrad, which is wedged between Poland on the west and Lithuania on the east, is home to almost a half-million Russians and the headquarters for the Russian Navy’s Baltic Sea force.
Lithuania May Have Lit the Fuse on World War III
sonar21.com
In a move of staggering stupidity and hubris, Lithuanian banned the transit of Russian goods to Kaliningrad effective today, June 18, 2022. Kaliningrad, which is wedged between Poland on the west and Lithuania on the east, is home to almost a half-million Russians and the headquarters for the Russian Navy’s Baltic Sea force.
My guess is the US government forced this to provoke Russia, while promising “help” to Lithuania. Uses up Russian resources while making it look like they are the bad guy and taking all the pressure off the western failures. Many of the internet warrior boomers I read will be frothing at the mouth to send their grandchildren to die in a new meat grinder.Not good. A very dangerous development:
Lithuania May Have Lit the Fuse on World War III
In a move of staggering stupidity and hubris, Lithuanian banned the transit of Russian goods to Kaliningrad effective today, June 18, 2022. Kaliningrad, which is wedged between Poland on the west and Lithuania on the east, is home to almost a half-million Russians and the headquarters for the Russian Navy’s Baltic Sea force.
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