which is why I want Russia to end this and kick ukies ass
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time to regroup, uhh, no, call it a cease fire.
The orthodox calendar is cca 14 days behind so their Christmas is on our 7th Jan , as so far it just a unilateral 36h cease fire to enable folks church service and given that Ukraine is not likely to agree to it , won't change anything on the front lines so will end as a PR move nothing else.
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Accurate statement! I will say however Taiwanese citizens are leaning towards a Bejing government. I have been on the ground there and talked to a lot of people there, and it's strange how many there think it will be all fine if they are governed by the mainland. Even the governance there is split on the issue.
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I wouldn't say most of them. My wife's family is there and they don't want China unless were are talking about the older ones who are Chinese and the one China they want is the ROC. My wife is Puyuma (Aboriginal Taiwanese) and Chinese. The younger generation doesn't want China at all. It's still the older generation that is holding onto that pipe dream. The KMT party will work with the PRC and the Green party is what is causing all of this ruckus and getting all the young voters.
A lot of the street fenders don't see how their life will change under Chinese rule, but the younger educated Taiwanese see that their lives will change and they don't want that.
There are definitely those in Taiwan who are upset at companies expanding their semi-conductor business into the US as they believe this is their bargaining power to keep the US vested in Taiwan. Once there is no reason for the US to protect Taiwan it won't and they know that. At that time you will see an influx of wealthy Taiwanese to the US as most have dual citizenship. I know families that purposely had children in the US so that if this ever happened they could get here because their children are US citizens. There is a whole birthing tourist thing in California just for the Taiwanese. The bummer is that the street food workers won't make it and the food is awesome.
Sounds like what happened in Vancouver in 1997 and later.
sounds like they just need to vote and use some Dominion voting machines...
Any guesses how the voting will turn out?
I'm sure you're right about this generation, but it's definitely a divide and less unanimous then I would have hoped for. Taiwan is a great country, and we are blowing our load on Ukraine instead of keeping the powder dry for a valuable ally.
A video above estimates that around 40% of the Taiwanese population won’t fight China, so what they want and what they get might be two very different outcomes.
bahh, bombs start dropping and they'll fight. It's easy to say nah when you are safe behind the straight but once the bullets start flying and you see they aim to kill you, you fight. Taiwan would be a bloodbath for China
"ukes - 70% casualties.. damn"
"close to a 150,000 ukes fighting men" - dead" When this is done, nothing left in Ukraine but sheep. All those that were willing to fight will be dead.
Loyal country loving people, mislead and the WEF elites and crappy leadership.
'support Ukraine as long as it's there' - damn politicians.. fighting to the last Ukrainian
I'm all in for Russia here, zero fks given about that ukraine and it's money laundering sex trafficking regime
Don’t forget about the bio labs and the race they are having with china to see who brings us the next pandemic.
I think things are much more straightforward.Don’t forget about the bio labs and the race they are having with china to see who brings us the next pandemic.
When you run a corruption scheme in EU and US your grifted pocket money ratio vs burned taxpayer cash is much lower than when you chose a corrupt shithole like Ukraine or Afghanistan as cutout, sure local grifters in said shitholes pocket some chump change but that just cost of doing business, still negligible in relation to much higher net percentage pocketed, and when you manage to package the whole scheme it into higher goals/ common good cellophane you have basically Teflon coated the whole thing. So even though COVID grift was in the trillions , Ukraine grift might be netting more $$ as they don't need to fork out a trillion in stimmy checks to the poors
Locusts just moved on from milking with a COVID scam and the COVIDiots being milked proudly hoisted Ukraine flags and avatars just as proudly as they , flattened the curve, put on the masks and wished for concentration camps for Unvaxed
For real hard core dupes
Language learners take up Ukrainian in show of solidarity - Duolingo
Language learning app Duolingo Inc said on Tuesday over 1.3 million people took up Ukrainian as a language to learn after the Russian invasion of Ukraine in February in a show of solidarity.
www.reuters.com
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Sounds like doing business in Jersey.I think things are much more straightforward.
When you run a corruption scheme in EU and US your grifted pocket money ratio vs burned taxpayer cash is much lower than when you chose a corrupt shithole like Ukraine or Afghanistan as cutout, sure local grifters in said shitholes pocket some chump change but that just cost of doing business, still negligible in relation to much higher net percentage pocketed, and when you manage to package the whole scheme it into higher goals/ common good cellophane you have basically Teflon coated the whole thing. So even though COVID grift was in the trillions , Ukraine grift might be netting more $$
Locusts just moved on from milking with a COVID scam and the COVIDiots being milked proudly hoisted Ukraine flags and avatars just as proudly as they , flattened the curve, put on the masks and wished for concentration camps for Unvaxed
For real hard core dupes
Language learners take up Ukrainian in show of solidarity - Duolingo
Language learning app Duolingo Inc said on Tuesday over 1.3 million people took up Ukrainian as a language to learn after the Russian invasion of Ukraine in February in a show of solidarity.
Ukraine, New Jersey .... no difference.
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U.S. announces over $3.75 billion in new military assistance to Ukraine, other countries
The United States will provide more than $3.75 billion in military assistance to Ukraine and countries affected by the Russian invasion of its neighbor, U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken announced on Friday.
www.reuters.com
I was wondering when disciples of the Khazarian conspiracy was going to show up on this site. Waiting for disciples of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion to show up on this site. Then you can start burning crosses to celebrate.
The White House, however, continues to impose restrictions on Ukrainian weaponry. It balks at providing Ukraine weapons systems that can strike into Russian territory, and even demands that Ukraine refrain from using American weaponry to strike into Russia-occupied Crimea.
After refusing for months to provide Ukraine with high-precision High Mobility Artillery Rocket Systems (HIMARS), the Biden administration finally reversed course but then secretly modified the system to prevent it from firing long-range rockets into Russia.
This is bad policy on two levels.
First, if the White House seeks artificially to limit the conflict to within Ukraine’s borders, it removes the cost to Russia of continuing conflict.
Second, while Ukraine degrades Russian equipment and shoots down or absorbs Russian missile strikes, numerous Russian factories work overtime to resupply the Russian military.
President Joe Biden may not want Ukrainian drones striking the Kremlin, and he need not worry about Ukrainians bombing Moscow apartment blocks the way Vladimir Putin did when he sought a casus belli against Chechnya.
Apartment blocks? He fucking leveled Grozny with everyone in it, a city that had a population of 400,000. Not a building was left standing undamaged. The Russians don’t give a fuck. They’re like a raping, pillaging, barbarian hoard with no discipline, and a shitload of artillery.
Thanks for that reminder..
What Putin's destruction of Grozny in 1999 means for Ukraine now
In 1999, Putin ordered the airstrikes and bombing that razed the Chechen capital of Grozny. Could he do it again, in Ukraine?
www.wbur.org
"His only instinct is going to be to double down and to try and 'Grozny-fy' Kyiv, if you know what I mean," Boris Johnson said.
In 1999, Vladimir Putin ordered the complete destruction of the Chechen capital of Grozny.
The Russian military laid waste to Grozny, killing tens of thousands of civilians. In Putin's own words, his troops "fulfilled their task to the end.
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Well to be fair, killing half a million children in Iraq was "worth it". Although Madeleine didn't exactly specify who "we" is.
Carthage in 146 BC (and then Corinth right after)
before and after.. Roman soldiers spent 1 year dismantling the city, block by block (not counting the salt, Romans used on the fields)
order to kill every man, women, and child in the city, leave no one alive. only on the last day did they take prisoners – 50,000, who were sold into slavery. 500,000 start, only 50,000 'survived'.
After
and then Corintih
Corinth was utterly destroyed in this year (146BC) by the victorious Roman army and all of her treasures and art plundered. Much of the adult male population was put to the sword and the female population and children sold into slavery. The annihilation of Corinth, the same fate met by Carthage the same year, marked a severe departure from previous Roman policy in Greece.
before and after.. Roman soldiers spent 1 year dismantling the city, block by block (not counting the salt, Romans used on the fields)
order to kill every man, women, and child in the city, leave no one alive. only on the last day did they take prisoners – 50,000, who were sold into slavery. 500,000 start, only 50,000 'survived'.
After
and then Corintih
Corinth was utterly destroyed in this year (146BC) by the victorious Roman army and all of her treasures and art plundered. Much of the adult male population was put to the sword and the female population and children sold into slavery. The annihilation of Corinth, the same fate met by Carthage the same year, marked a severe departure from previous Roman policy in Greece.
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Ukraine suffering up to 1,000 casualties per day in Donbas, official says
Ukraine's top negotiator says 200 to 500 troops are dying daily.
www.axios.com
Στα χέρια Ρώσων περνά το Soledar: Ρωσικό Blitzkrieg διέλυσε τις ουκρανικές άμυνες - Υποχωρούν μαζικά οι Ουκρανοί - Χιλιάδες εγκλωβισμένοι στα ορυχεία - WarNews247
Ο ρωσικός Στρατός βρίσκεται μπροστά σε μια τεράστια νίκη, την μεγαλύτερη εδώ και μήνες, καθώς κατέλαβε το κέντρο του Soledar
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The Russian Army is facing a huge victory, its biggest in months, as it captured the center of Soledar, breaking the second and third lines of defense of the Ukrainians. The penultimate Ukrainian stronghold in the Donbass is falling. Next is Bakhmut.
The Ukrainian Army retreats en masse either to Krasna Gora or to Bakhmut while several thousand have trapped themselves in the salt mines. From there they will fight the final battle.
Because they careUkraine suffering up to 1,000 casualties per day in Donbas, official says
Ukraine's top negotiator says 200 to 500 troops are dying daily.
Begs for Money and Goods Then Reportedly Goes on 40,000 Euro Shopping Spree
Ukrainian President Zelensky's Wife Goes to Paris and Begs for Money and Goods Then Reportedly Goes on 40,000 Euro Shopping Spree
President Zelensky’s wife was in Paris the past few days asking for more money and support for Ukraine to make it through the winter. She also stopped off at some shops to pick up some things for herself. Ukraine is in a horrible war with Russia at the moment. It’s costing lives and...
www.thegatewaypundit.com
Will Russia just take all Ukraine now that they pissed of Putin....Στα χέρια Ρώσων περνά το Soledar: Ρωσικό Blitzkrieg διέλυσε τις ουκρανικές άμυνες - Υποχωρούν μαζικά οι Ουκρανοί - Χιλιάδες εγκλωβισμένοι στα ορυχεία - WarNews247
Ο ρωσικός Στρατός βρίσκεται μπροστά σε μια τεράστια νίκη, την μεγαλύτερη εδώ και μήνες, καθώς κατέλαβε το κέντρο του Soledar
Use google translate
The Russian Army is facing a huge victory, its biggest in months, as it captured the center of Soledar, breaking the second and third lines of defense of the Ukrainians. The penultimate Ukrainian stronghold in the Donbass is falling. Next is Bakhmut.
The Ukrainian Army retreats en masse either to Krasna Gora or to Bakhmut while several thousand have trapped themselves in the salt mines. From there they will fight the final battle.
or Will lines be redrawn?
Belarus' Lukashenko Visits Russian Troops, Declares "Common Cause" | ZeroHedge
ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero
www.zerohedge.com
Oh sorry, I thought you were talking about Mosul, Falluja, or Raqqa, nevermind my bad.
I wasn’t there, so I’ll leave it to anyone who was to thump you.
We went house to house in all three at great cost. We haven’t indiscriminately leveled a city since WWII, and the closest we’ve come since then is burning an VC village.
If you’re trying for moral equivalence it just isn’t so.
Neither were you in Grozney, so you really wouldn't know for sure either, could you. Nor were you in Raqqa, right.... Nor did we have any business in Iraq, did we? The only WMD's Sadam had was gold and oil.
I wasn’t there, so I’ll leave it to anyone who was to thump you.
We went house to house in all three at great cost. We haven’t indiscriminately leveled a city since WWII, and the closest we’ve come since then is burning an VC village.
If you’re trying for moral equivalence it just isn’t so.
I am not diminishing your service, and I wouldn't do so, just to get that straight.
The fact remains we killed a million Iraqes, and displaced many more for geo political perpous. Which gave rise to ISIS, who went on to raping and killing more in the region.
But my point simply is that we are no better than the Russians, who were no better than anyone else. We are both morally equivalent. It takes some cognitive dissonance to rationalize otherwise.
If 162billion $ ( US and EU combined) were spent so far on Ukraine , the bang for the buck has been extremely poor, to put it in context 162 000 milion $ ,that is about 500k$ per Russian soldier in and around Ukraine you could buy him to go seize the Kremlin for a tiny fraction of that.
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I wasn’t there, so I’ll leave it to anyone who was to thump you.
We went house to house in all three at great cost. We haven’t indiscriminately leveled a city since WWII, and the closest we’ve come since then is burning an VC village.
If you’re trying for moral equivalence it just isn’t so.
Raqqa and Faluja were 'precision' leveled and WP was used to give ''civilians cover from snipers''. At least that was the reporting at the time. But both were effectively razed. GWOT death tool and destruction is off the charts.
The difference is just what story
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The Chechens used to be alot like the Iraqis that we bombed the shit out and invaded twice. Except, they were actually fanatical muslim terrorists, not secular tyrants like Saddam.
After the USSR fell, the Chechens were raiding neighboring countries like Dagestan to take slaves. Literally taking slaves over the border and bringing them back to Chechnya. Or they would kidnap people and make videos of their hostage getting their fingers and toes cut off with shears, sending the videos to the family until they paid up. No pay, no stay alive.
They were taking child slaves, like they tried to do in the Beslan school. Look it up. The bombed apartment buildings in Russian cities a number of times, similar to the Chechen who bombed the Boston Marathon, except many many more innocent people died. They were supplying highly trained specialists to fight *US* in the middle east. Chris Kyle talked about running into a group of them in one of his books. They were even carrying out Sharia executions in a soccer stadium that the Europeans built for them in Grozny.
The Chechens were total fucking assholes until their militant Islamic leadership was eliminated. They weren't just staying in their own country enjoying independence. They were being terrorist assholes.
hope he levels it again and levels ukieThanks for that reminder..
What Putin's destruction of Grozny in 1999 means for Ukraine now
In 1999, Putin ordered the airstrikes and bombing that razed the Chechen capital of Grozny. Could he do it again, in Ukraine?
"His only instinct is going to be to double down and to try and 'Grozny-fy' Kyiv, if you know what I mean," Boris Johnson said.
In 1999, Vladimir Putin ordered the complete destruction of the Chechen capital of Grozny.
The Russian military laid waste to Grozny, killing tens of thousands of civilians. In Putin's own words, his troops "fulfilled their task to the end.
or Dresden, Tokyo, Hiroshima......
not saying it was right or wrong. Just saying that we are the absolute last people who can criticize anyone for indiscriminate destruction over the last 100 years.
exactly, that's why people are referring to the State dept.'s scheme against Russia as a "Carthaginian Peace". They want to remove Putin and all the patriotic ones, install NWO leadership approved by soros like that Navalny cunt, and then steal the shit out of the entire country, just like they did in the 90's. They would love to make the average russian so poor that they have to sell their daughters into prostitution.....or with the likes of these satanic faggots in DC, maybe their sons too.Carthage in 146 BC (and then Corinth right after)
before and after.. Roman soldiers spent 1 year dismantling the city, block by block (not counting the salt, Romans used on the fields)
order to kill every man, women, and child in the city, leave no one alive. only on the last day did they take prisoners – 50,000, who were sold into slavery. 500,000 start, only 50,000 'survived'.
After
and then Corintih
Corinth was utterly destroyed in this year (146BC) by the victorious Roman army and all of her treasures and art plundered. Much of the adult male population was put to the sword and the female population and children sold into slavery. The annihilation of Corinth, the same fate met by Carthage the same year, marked a severe departure from previous Roman policy in Greece.
Washington’s Carthaginian Peace Collides With Reality - The American Conservative
The Biden administration refuses to tell the American people the truth: Ukraine is not winning and will not win this war.
www.theamericanconservative.com
Where is the US win in all of this? I only see us losing. If Russia wins it spells the end of the US empire and dollar's reserve status, which will be accelerated by the growing BRICs trading block. If the US/UN/NATO wins we still have created financial destruction through all of the money printing and the new BRICs trading block.
I am still thinking about the snippet of Putin being a Young Global Leader. If that really is true it means we are all being played, regardless of the side you think you are on. If it is not true then we still have the issue of Klaus going to China and hob nobbing with them, which means they are at a minimum in agreement on high level points about the direction of trade. So we are still being played.
I wonder how much of this whole conflict is really only one part of an attempt at greatly accelerating the downfall of the west, along with the politicians throughout the west that are obviously in alignment with such moves. No western country is going to come out of this unharmed.
I am still thinking about the snippet of Putin being a Young Global Leader. If that really is true it means we are all being played, regardless of the side you think you are on. If it is not true then we still have the issue of Klaus going to China and hob nobbing with them, which means they are at a minimum in agreement on high level points about the direction of trade. So we are still being played.
I wonder how much of this whole conflict is really only one part of an attempt at greatly accelerating the downfall of the west, along with the politicians throughout the west that are obviously in alignment with such moves. No western country is going to come out of this unharmed.
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So first round of dirty dozen , done their 'penance' ,The story of the 'penal PMC' its quite intriguing, and it seems PMC Wagner has considerable clout with Putin and the penal battalion program is only really getting started.
Report by NGO Russia Behind Bars
Rumor has it that military recruitment in prisons is not voluntary. We have been monitoring the recruitment situation in penal colonies since the beginning of the war. Volunteers abound. Inmates are lining up to go to war. Their friends and relatives write: “Where do I apply for him to get recruited sooner?”
If we were to dig deeper into their motivation, we could conclude that there is an element of coercion. Russian prisons are notorious for torture, abuse, and humiliation. For many inmates, volunteering to go to war is a way out. Anything is better than the inside.
As for relatives, they are mostly after money. Eight out of nine questions we get deal with compensation. “Will they really get paid? When is the payday? Why haven’t they sent the contract? How much will he get if he is wounded? What if it's a serious injury?”
Promises were vague. Recruits signed a medley of papers, nothing standardized. Some recalled submitting consent to join the “DPR” police force. Some said their forms had Russia's Ministry of Defense header and included a checkbox “I agree to go to war in Ukraine”. Those who enlisted said they were promised early release. Or that there would be an amnesty. However, if they got killed in action, this would be considered as “shot during an escape attempt”.
They told us they’d donned camo, trained twenty hours a day, and ate dry rations on the go. They received training in mine clearance and – I’m not sure about the correct military term – storming? In a nutshell, former inmates got an express stormtrooper course, even though some of them had never done conscription service.
Further on, the relatives of some other missing inmates submitted inquiries to the FSIN and were told that the inmates had been transferred to IK-12 in the Rostov Region at their own request. “Go look for him there.”These penal colonies are being used as boot camps.
The carrots:
– A monthly income of 100,000 rubles (~$1,650) in cash and a 100,000-ruble bonus, to be paid to the recruit directly or to their family.
– 5 million rubles (~$82,300) to their relatives in the event of death. Several such compensations have already been paid out.
– Compensation for wounds received in action (the amount is not specified). Those seriously injured can expect to return home with their conviction annulled. We have not heard of such cases yet.
– In a few colonies, recruiters promised to reward acts of outstanding heroism by arranging the visit of the recruit’s mother or wife – who would arrive by plane, no less. Such fantasies do not require any comment.
– After six months of participation in the special operation (starting from the first combat experience, not the date of recruitment), inmates would walk free, have their criminal records expunged, and get the President’s pardon.
The sticks:
– Execution on the spot for attempted desertion or surrendering to the enemy. This is indirectly confirmed by the accounts of both recruits and Wagner mercenaries: former inmates are followed by an anti-retreat unit consisting of “seasoned fighters”.
– Execution on the spot for consuming drugs or alcohol.
– Execution on the spot for looting. (Interestingly, the long-time residents of occupied Donetsk and Luhansk regions, with whom I often talk for work and just chat, have very fond memories of Igor Strelkov-Girkin for this particular habit of shooting looters on the spot without trial. My weak protestations about possible mistakes and the need for investigation and a fair trial were met with a shrug).
By the most careful estimates, private military companies (Wagner is only one example) have recruited around 5,000 inmates.(September 2022) Not all of them are fighting; some are still training, while others are waiting for their turn in penal colonies because there are more volunteers than needed. Some are already dead.
All that considering that PMCs have only processed the penitentiary institutions of the European part of Russia. Inmates have shared that Wagner agents or Prigozhin himself mentioned plans of recruiting 20,000 convicts, or even better, 50,000.
Will they succeed? They certainly will, if they venture further east, beyond the Urals and into Siberia.
A man who looks like Evgeny Prigozhin tells inmates: “I've promised the President I will win this war.”
It appears to be true. Indeed he has. And it had to be to the president(backing it),because no one else in Russia, even the Security Council secretary Nikolai Patrushev or the FSB director Alexander Bortnikov, not to mention such a small fish as the head of the FSIN, has the power to remove so many inmates from the legal environment.
Can you imagine? A helicopter owned by a private company lands in a restricted facility –a maximum-security or even a “special regime” prison, where there are no random people. Its passengers simply elbow the guards and the warden out in front of the inmates. They occupy the offices, grab personal files, and bring in the polygraph, which is an essential component of interviews, along with questions about the attitude to Ukraine.
Then they simply take some of the inmates away. Put them on a transport with nothing but a change of underwear and two packs of cigarettes. And that’s it. “You’ll be given all you need,” they say.
Report by NGO Russia Behind Bars
Rumor has it that military recruitment in prisons is not voluntary. We have been monitoring the recruitment situation in penal colonies since the beginning of the war. Volunteers abound. Inmates are lining up to go to war. Their friends and relatives write: “Where do I apply for him to get recruited sooner?”
If we were to dig deeper into their motivation, we could conclude that there is an element of coercion. Russian prisons are notorious for torture, abuse, and humiliation. For many inmates, volunteering to go to war is a way out. Anything is better than the inside.
As for relatives, they are mostly after money. Eight out of nine questions we get deal with compensation. “Will they really get paid? When is the payday? Why haven’t they sent the contract? How much will he get if he is wounded? What if it's a serious injury?”
Promises were vague. Recruits signed a medley of papers, nothing standardized. Some recalled submitting consent to join the “DPR” police force. Some said their forms had Russia's Ministry of Defense header and included a checkbox “I agree to go to war in Ukraine”. Those who enlisted said they were promised early release. Or that there would be an amnesty. However, if they got killed in action, this would be considered as “shot during an escape attempt”.
They told us they’d donned camo, trained twenty hours a day, and ate dry rations on the go. They received training in mine clearance and – I’m not sure about the correct military term – storming? In a nutshell, former inmates got an express stormtrooper course, even though some of them had never done conscription service.
Further on, the relatives of some other missing inmates submitted inquiries to the FSIN and were told that the inmates had been transferred to IK-12 in the Rostov Region at their own request. “Go look for him there.”These penal colonies are being used as boot camps.
The carrots:
– A monthly income of 100,000 rubles (~$1,650) in cash and a 100,000-ruble bonus, to be paid to the recruit directly or to their family.
– 5 million rubles (~$82,300) to their relatives in the event of death. Several such compensations have already been paid out.
– Compensation for wounds received in action (the amount is not specified). Those seriously injured can expect to return home with their conviction annulled. We have not heard of such cases yet.
– In a few colonies, recruiters promised to reward acts of outstanding heroism by arranging the visit of the recruit’s mother or wife – who would arrive by plane, no less. Such fantasies do not require any comment.
– After six months of participation in the special operation (starting from the first combat experience, not the date of recruitment), inmates would walk free, have their criminal records expunged, and get the President’s pardon.
The sticks:
– Execution on the spot for attempted desertion or surrendering to the enemy. This is indirectly confirmed by the accounts of both recruits and Wagner mercenaries: former inmates are followed by an anti-retreat unit consisting of “seasoned fighters”.
– Execution on the spot for consuming drugs or alcohol.
– Execution on the spot for looting. (Interestingly, the long-time residents of occupied Donetsk and Luhansk regions, with whom I often talk for work and just chat, have very fond memories of Igor Strelkov-Girkin for this particular habit of shooting looters on the spot without trial. My weak protestations about possible mistakes and the need for investigation and a fair trial were met with a shrug).
By the most careful estimates, private military companies (Wagner is only one example) have recruited around 5,000 inmates.(September 2022) Not all of them are fighting; some are still training, while others are waiting for their turn in penal colonies because there are more volunteers than needed. Some are already dead.
All that considering that PMCs have only processed the penitentiary institutions of the European part of Russia. Inmates have shared that Wagner agents or Prigozhin himself mentioned plans of recruiting 20,000 convicts, or even better, 50,000.
Will they succeed? They certainly will, if they venture further east, beyond the Urals and into Siberia.
A man who looks like Evgeny Prigozhin tells inmates: “I've promised the President I will win this war.”
It appears to be true. Indeed he has. And it had to be to the president(backing it),because no one else in Russia, even the Security Council secretary Nikolai Patrushev or the FSB director Alexander Bortnikov, not to mention such a small fish as the head of the FSIN, has the power to remove so many inmates from the legal environment.
Can you imagine? A helicopter owned by a private company lands in a restricted facility –a maximum-security or even a “special regime” prison, where there are no random people. Its passengers simply elbow the guards and the warden out in front of the inmates. They occupy the offices, grab personal files, and bring in the polygraph, which is an essential component of interviews, along with questions about the attitude to Ukraine.
Then they simply take some of the inmates away. Put them on a transport with nothing but a change of underwear and two packs of cigarettes. And that’s it. “You’ll be given all you need,” they say.
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I almost like that better than the US practice of training foreign nationals with military service; then, the ones who don't go back to the cartels are offered citizenship. It's very Byzantine.....and it didn't really work for them, either.
Naturalization Through Military Service | USCIS
If you are serving or have served in the U.S. armed forces and are interested in becoming a U.S. citizen, you may be eligible to apply for naturalization under special provisions of the Immigration
www.uscis.gov
Yes sir. They'll let absolute freaks and trannies, etc who hate America to the core, enlist. But not those of us who committed a nonviolent victimless crime as a juvenile, but are otherwise as patriotic as it gets.I almost like that better than the US practice of training foreign nationals with military service; then, the ones who don't go back to the cartels are offered citizenship. It's very Byzantine.....and it didn't really work for them, either.
Naturalization Through Military Service | USCIS
If you are serving or have served in the U.S. armed forces and are interested in becoming a U.S. citizen, you may be eligible to apply for naturalization under special provisions of the Immigrationwww.uscis.gov
Oh well.. you couldn't pay me enough to join the US .mil of today. Our country is unrecognizable and our .gov aint one that Id fight for anymore..
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