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Join the contestWe shall see it will be interesting for sure. But to say nothing left between bakhmut and Kyiv is a bit far fetched. We saw what happened to nothing left between RU and Kyiv.Maybe he knows when Bakhmut falls, there is nothing left stopping Russia from rolling all the way into Kiev. Very little defensive positions established behind it.
Yeah, a little sarcasm in there, but I did hear somewhere that he was pulling back troops in order to start establishing a new, better defensive position.We shall see it will be interesting for sure. But to say nothing left between bakhmut and Kyiv is a bit far fetched. We saw what happened to nothing left between RU and Kyiv.
I don't know what the cool kids do in Romania, but the Epstein method which the kid showed in that video is very common.Yooo sad if he really died, but one does not die that fast from hanging without a neck snap. Videos a little sus. Hell if I didn’t want any part of this war I would hug mum, then make a video like this and off in the wind. Hell I saw a video, I can’t find any longer being I can see why it was taken down, of killings supposedly by RU turning out to be fake.
so sad. all this killing for what?
Again video looks sus dude dies in seconds. On the dark side of the internet I have seen hangings and they dont die in seconds. Its what I was questioning. Nothing about cool kids, Romania, Russia, Ukraine. Just a discussion about sus in a video you posted. But you do you, and believe everything that comes out, from once again, the shit show we are seeing out there.I don't know what the cool kids do in Romania, but the Epstein method which the kid showed in that video is very common.
Yooo sad if he really died, but one does not die that fast from hanging without a neck snap. Videos a little sus. Hell if I didn’t want any part of this war I would hug mum, then make a video like this and off in the wind. Hell I saw a video, I can’t find any longer being I can see why it was taken down, of killings supposedly by RU turning out to be fake.
Again video looks sus dude dies in seconds. On the dark side of the internet I have seen hangings and they dont die in seconds. Its what I was questioning. Nothing about cool kids, Romania, Russia, Ukraine. Just a discussion about sus in a video you posted. But you do you, and believe everything that comes out, from once again, the shit show we are seeing out there.
It looked fake. Look at when he turns to the right to step on the boxes. Stop the video and look at how the hood sticks up behind his neck and how the entire hoody sort of reveals an outline of some sort of a vest underneath it.16 year old buries his father, gets drafted, kills self. Spread that democracy, Biden and Mitch!
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In Video 18+: Ukrainian Teenager Committed Suicide After He Was Drafted To Army
A 16-year-old boy from Kharkov received a summons, despite the fact that the draft age in Ukraine is 18....southfront.org
dude, believe it....don't believe it.....I truly don't give a fuck what you think. I'm simply posting things that I think are interesting, on the odd chance that other people find them interesting as well. I have no idea why you feel the need to follow my posts and try to engage me in conversation all the time. You are like the son I never wanted.Again video looks sus dude dies in seconds. On the dark side of the internet I have seen hangings and they dont die in seconds. Its what I was questioning. Nothing about cool kids, Romania, Russia, Ukraine. Just a discussion about sus in a video you posted. But you do you, and believe everything that comes out, from once again, the shit show we are seeing out there.
wow, that sucks. my brother broke his neck in a snowmobile accident.As to the neck snap, I can attest to that. I was almost killed in an auto accident. I suffered from a hangman's fracture but fortunately the 2nd vertebrae wasn't displaced enough to sever or damage the spinal cord.
The lights went on and off for me a few times but if I would have been killed, I would have stopped breathing and met my maker after the brain went dead.
Sorry to hear that. Did he survive or was he disabled?wow, that sucks. my brother broke his neck in a snowmobile accident.
he survived the accident, recovered somehow with no paralysis, and the experience changed his entire personality and he became a much nicer person. It was like a "coming to Jesus" moment for him.Sorry to hear that. Did he survive or was he disabled?
If he didn't make it then, take it from me, he probably didn't know what happened and didn't suffer. I felt a tap behind me then the lights flickered on and off. I began to feel the pain much later.
Sorry if I'm opening up old wounds be just my feeble attempt to offer some words of comfort.
Again, my condolences. The broken neck changed me. I don't fear death but am not foolhardy either.he survived the accident, recovered somehow with no paralysis, and the experience changed his entire personality and he became a much nicer person. It was like a "coming to Jesus" moment for him.
A year later he died of cancer.
Putin doesn't want to go to Kiev. He's already stated that he wants the eastern provinces to be left alone according to the Minsk agreement. The propaganda machine is unfucking believable.Maybe he knows when Bakhmut falls, there is nothing left stopping Russia from rolling all the way into Kiev. Very little defensive positions established behind it.
I just found the one thing that zelenski hasn't pulled out of. That's Steve's assHe Heeded Russia’s Call to Enlist. Five Months Later, He Was Dead.
Pvt. Ivan Ovlashenko was one of at least 16,000 Russians who have died in Ukraine, more than in the Soviets’ Afghan war. It’s getting hard for the Kremlin to cover that up.
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Ivan Ovlashenko, who signed up to serve in the Russian military after receiving a mobilization summons last fall, in a photo provided by his family.
By Neil MacFarquhar and Milana Mazaeva
March 6, 2023Updated 5:18 p.m. ET
6 MIN READ
Soon after he deployed to Ukraine last fall, Pvt. Ivan A. Ovlashenko filmed a short video of himself wearing camouflage fatigues and an olive green fleece hat, sitting in a woods flecked with yellowing leaves while fellow soldiers nearby readied an artillery round to fire toward the Ukrainian lines.
“I am recording everything right,” he said, grinning before shouting a warning, “Mortar!” The clip was meant to reassure relatives back in Russia that his sudden transition to frontline artilleryman was coming along just fine.
Until it wasn’t.
Last September, President Vladimir V. Putin ordered the mobilization of 300,000 men to bolster sagging Russian defenses in Ukraine. At the time, the hordes of men who fled Russia to avoid conscription attracted the most attention. Yet hundreds of thousands of Russians like Private Ovlashenko — factory laborers and electricians, medical orderlies and basketball players, tractor drivers and school workers — went off to war.
The promise of payouts of $3,000 or $4,000 a month proved a huge incentive, along with appeals to machismo and the defense of the motherland. “What am I, not a man?” Mr. Ovlashenko told two women, his sister and his former wife. “I need to protect my country, my daughter.”
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A video provided by Mr. Ovlashenko’s family shows Mr. Ovlashenko filming himself while fellow soldiers nearby readied an artillery round to fire toward the Ukrainian lines.
In lengthy interviews, the women said they were surprised how Mr. Ovlashenko, largely apolitical to this point, suddenly began parroting the government’s far-fetched talking point about the West planning to use Ukraine as a staging ground to attack Russia. If he did not fight in Ukraine, he said, he would have to battle the enemy on the streets of Bataysk, his hometown, a railroad hub just outside the southwestern city of Rostov-on-Don.
The mobilization shifted the calculus of the war. It was no longer some distant “military operation,” as the Kremlin still calls it, fought by contract soldiers, mercenaries and Ukrainian separatists press-ganged into service. Suddenly, ordinary Russians were thrust into the trenches.
Now, more than five months later, the tempo of dead and wounded returning to Russia is picking up, with zinc coffins arriving in places like Bataysk. It is a pattern repeating itself across Russia, even if the dead remain largely hidden.
“The numbers are secret,” said Max Trudolyubov, a Russian political analyst and newspaper columnist based in Vilnius, Lithuania. “The mobilized are from small towns, faraway places. The strategy is to spread the losses as thinly as possible across the country.”
Clothing and belongings of Russian soldiers are seen among burned out vehicles outside Lyman, in eastern Ukraine, in October.Credit...Nicole Tung for The New York Times
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Western intelligence officials estimate that 200,000 soldiers on the Russian side have been killed or wounded in the war. Of those, more than 16,000 have been confirmed dead in public sources, according to a project conducted jointly by Mediazona, an independent Russian news outlet, the BBC News Russian Service and volunteer researchers. While the true number is undoubtedly far higher, even that figure already exceeds the official death toll during the Soviet Union’s nine-year war in Afghanistan.
The dead include more than 1,366 new recruits, according to the project. Private Ovlashenko, 30, was one of them.
He grew up in Bataysk, a descendant of a long line of railroad workers, and was just 16 months younger than his sister, Valentina, with whom he was very close.
Valentina Strelkova, her married name, remembers her brother as a skinny, agile, fearless child — a potential circus acrobat. He remained devoted to his sister throughout his life, she said, dropping whatever he was doing whenever she needed him.
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A photo provided by Mr. Ovlashenko’s family showing him, his former wife, Valeria Ovlashenka, and their daughter, Polina.Credit...Courtesy of Family
After he completed his compulsory military service, he went to work for Pepsi in merchandising.
Valeria Ovlashenka worked for Pepsi, too, in sales. When she spurned his advances, he gave a party for the entire staff, greeting her with a bouquet. He soon proposed, and the next day she discovered that she was pregnant. They married in March 2017, and their daughter, Polina, was born later that summer.
They quarreled frequently, not least over how to raise their daughter. Ms. Ovlashenka sought to replicate her own strict upbringing, while her husband made Polina the center of his life. He ironed her diapers and put her to sleep. He bought her toys and candy, took her to see the sea, and taught her to pick mushrooms in the deep northern forests. “It was always a holiday for the child,” she said.
They divorced after two years but neither dated anybody else, and Ms. Ovlashenka always hoped that they would reunite.
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The carcass of a cow in front of a home in Makiivka, the Ukrainian village where Mr. Ovlashenko was killed.Credit...Lynsey Addario for The New York Times
The mobilization summons on Sept. 26 came as a shock to his ex-wife and his sister, especially since Mr. Ovlashenko signed it immediately. “He was never interested or involved in political news,” said his sister.
He told his ex-wife of his decision to enlist when he was bringing their daughter back after a weekend, saying that he was leaving the next day. “He said it with such a smirk, as if he was leaving for a sanitarium,” she said, “I tried to talk him out of it.” She called the whole situation meaningless, arguing that he should stay home to raise Polina.
“I didn’t see my husband as a patriot,” she said. “I think that he just wanted a change of scenery.”
Mr. Ovlashenko’s father and sister drove to the training camp, more than an hour away, every day. They were given a list of necessities to rustle up — basically, everything except his flak jacket and helmet. They bought him warmer clothes, kneepads, a sleeping bag, a backpack and two balaclavas, among other equipment, spending more than $1,200. He was embarrassed, but grateful, and eventually the local regional government reimbursed them.
Mr. Ovlashenko was unexpectedly dispatched to Donetsk after just a week at the camp, his family said. During his earlier military service, he had been a driver. This time, he was assigned to an artillery unit. The newly mobilized soldiers received no training at the training center, he told them: “Everything I learned, I learned at the front.”
He never shared exactly where he was, but with each call, the sound of big guns rumbled ever louder. For the most part, he said things were “fine,” although he let the mask slip once. “‘You cannot imagine what I am doing here,’” he told his sister, sounding terrified. Then he clammed up.
Outwardly, his face became more masculine, sterner, his former wife said, while his eyes often got a frantic look that she recognized from their marital spats.
He did not talk about the dead much. Once, when his ex-wife asked about the commotion she could hear in the background, he said that the soldiers were drinking to commemorate fallen comrades. Another time he allowed that he had seen a lot of “cold” corpses, but few recently killed.
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A car painted with the Russian military symbol “Z” is seen in a town previously occupied by Russian forces in the Donetsk region, Ukraine, in January.Credit...Nicole Tung for The New York Times
In December, after he suffered a light shrapnel wound in the shoulder, his calls became more frequent and more emotional. “It was like he burst,” said Ms. Ovlashenka. He sent money constantly for Polina — for clothes, a tree for the holidays, the circus and a ski trip.
When his ex-wife broached the topic of their reuniting, however, he backed off, and they postponed the discussion until he returned.
New Year’s Eve was the last time his sister spoke to him. “He was very cheerful, upbeat, positive,” she said. On Jan. 6, he called his former wife to ask if Polina liked her presents.
The last sign of life came on Jan. 9. When he could not talk, he would text an emoji like a smiley face.
Starting Jan. 10, there was a troubling silence. His sister dialed all the numbers he had called from, but nobody knew anything. Private Ovlashenko hugged her in a dream so vivid that she felt he had come to say goodbye.
On Jan. 14, the family learned from the Bataysk military recruitment office that he had been killed when a tank shell exploded in his trench near Makiivka, Ukraine.
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A photo provided by Mr. Ovlashenko’s family showing them together by a pool.Credit...Courtesy of Family
They were told that his corpse had been shipped to nearby Rostov, to the main military morgue, but the military told them not to visit. The explosion had ripped his body apart, and they were having trouble identifying him. The family hoped that they had the wrong guy, but a fingerprint soon confirmed that it was him.
There was no open coffin at the funeral on Jan. 20. An honor guard fired off a salute in the muddy cemetery, and his father emitted a strangled cry, “Vanyuk!” — his son’s nickname — as they buried him, according to 161.ru, a regional online newspaper.
Polina, 5, was not at the funeral, but she knew about the war. Her mother initially told her that her father was on a long business trip, but Polina figured out from the calls that he was at the front.
At school, they took up a small collection, and they always mentioned her father when they talked about war heroes. Polina misses him terribly, and often encourages her mother to find her a new daddy. “I tell her, ‘Daughter, we don’t have a store where we can get a new daddy,’” she said. “There will always be one daddy. He’s in heaven.”
In late February, the family held the traditional ceremony marking 40 days since his death. They skipped the normal ritual of leaving food on his grave, as the local priest said it would be better to donate it to needy families.
“He had chosen a peaceful life, a peaceful profession, a nonmilitary specialty,” his sister said. “But his life completely disintegrated in a different way.”
If CNN is selling it. Believe the opposite, its a more reliable way to get your news.It is incredibly tragic, most wars are a waste, and certainly unjustified. One can't simply watch any of the footage from the front lines and not feel sorry for everyone involved. Then again I probably feel less sorry for the Nazis, or any of the foreign mercenaries, they are looking for it.
Strange how all these news correspondents are compelled to tell us how Bakhmut is strategically useless, and a waste of Russias resources. If that was the case then Ukrain wouldn't be making this their Stalingrad. And it proves that the media will tell you exactly what is opposite of the reality.
Worst propaganda article ever.Pvt. Ivan Ovlashenko was one of at least 16,000 Russians who have died in Ukraine,
dude, believe it....don't believe it.....I truly don't give a fuck what you think. I'm simply posting things that I think are interesting, on the odd chance that other people find them interesting as well. I have no idea why you feel the need to follow my posts and try to engage me in conversation all the time. You are like the son I never wanted.
Main reason I called it sus. Dude went limp mode real quick HAHAHA! As you stated he would have been kickin like a damn Las Vegas girl haha. Again too many here are arguing only one side. All because they feel they need to defend RU or UA. I came in here talkin about both sides as much as I can. This video though is just a sus video and make to spread more propaganda does not help any side at this point.Had this been real, he would have been reaching with BOTH hands to get to the noose around his neck and kicking like a Las Vegas call girl on a Saturday night.
everything i share in any thread is simply to expose folks to an alternative narrative that most will not see in their news feeds.Main reason I called it sus. Dude went limp mode real quick HAHAHA! As you stated he would have been kickin like a damn Las Vegas girl haha. Again too many here are arguing only one side. All because they feel they need to defend RU or UA. I came in here talkin about both sides as much as I can. This video though is just a sus video and make to spread more propaganda does not help any side at this point.
Talkin about one sided people. I have seen enough from both sides to call bullshit on both sides.everything i share in any thread is simply to expose folks to an alternative narrative that most will not see in their news feeds.
it is not up to me to decide what you believe or don't, or whose side you're on.
if you'd rather just watch mainstream news for what to believe, feel free.
just saying, not posting anything as the truth, simply giving exposure.Talkin about one sided people. I have seen enough from both sides to call bullshit on both sides.Just as was posted and a big fuss made about UA soldiers killing RU POW's. Both sides are fuckin each other that is a fact haha. I posted one showing RU doing the same. Could care less about who wins. Stated this from the first post I posted here.
That is actually a brilliant strategy.If CNN is selling it. Believe the opposite, its a more reliable way to get your news.
I get the feeling some "event" is coming that will accelerate putting NATO troops into Ukraine. Maybe one of our aircraft will stray too close to Russia or Belarus and get hit.
It's absolute madness that there are no cease-fire negotiations even being attempted. It's always, "we'll talk when Russia withdraws completely" etc, which isn't going to happen. "Surrender and we'll negotiate" is not a serious negotiation prerequisite.
I wonder if DC or Klaus Schwab or whoever is giving Zelensky instructions or if he's completely off the rails on his own. Seems there were some posts that alluded to him being a big consumer of coke. Maybe that's what all the VIP visits are, bringing his supply, and giving instructions securely, and getting kickbacks while bypassing all lower level peons/risks/potential leaks. It's been a parade of high-level DC muckity-mucks visiting him on a regular basis, which seems really odd.
I saw the latest pictures of all the hardware lined up at the Polish port. Maybe the plan is to have everything in place on the border(s) ready to go, and as soon as the weather breaks, ground firms up, key the "event" and go full retard.
the Russians cannot match the amount of material we are giving to Ukraine. In the long term it is impossible for them to win, unless they can pull of something drastic and quickly. They will simply be ground down to nothing, like Germany was in WW2.I get the feeling some "event" is coming that will accelerate putting NATO troops into Ukraine. Maybe one of our aircraft will stray too close to Russia or Belarus and get hit.
It's absolute madness that there are no cease-fire negotiations even being attempted. It's always, "we'll talk when Russia withdraws completely" etc, which isn't going to happen. "Surrender and we'll negotiate" is not a serious negotiation prerequisite.
I wonder if DC or Klaus Schwab or whoever is giving Zelensky instructions or if he's completely off the rails on his own. Seems there were some posts that alluded to him being a big consumer of coke. Maybe that's what all the VIP visits are, bringing his supply, and giving instructions securely, and getting kickbacks while bypassing all lower level peons/risks/potential leaks. It's been a parade of high-level DC muckity-mucks visiting him on a regular basis, which seems really odd.
I saw the latest pictures of all the hardware lined up at the Polish port. Maybe the plan is to have everything in place on the border(s) ready to go, and as soon as the weather breaks, ground firms up, key the "event" and go full retard.
the Russians cannot match the amount of material we are giving to Ukraine. In the long term it is impossible for them to win, unless they can pull of something drastic and quickly. They will simply be ground down to nothing, like Germany was in WW2.
I'd buy that before I believe the US Navy did it like that one guy suggested. I personally don't believe that was a government affiliated attack by uniformed personnel , more along the lines of Industrial Espionage, some Merc/terrorist shit.![]()
U.S. says Ukraine group behind Nord Stream pipeline bombing
A pro-Ukrainian group carried out the attack on the Nord Stream pipelines last year, U.S. intelligence agencies determined, according to a bombshell report on Tuesday.www.dailymail.co.uk
Hmmm… a Pro-Ukrainian group… I bet the leader is that pesky Eoj Nedib.
No... That is fucking stupid.Oh cut the fucking crap... yeah some "wicked tuna" fishermen went out for a spin and blew up a rusty old pipes with illegal dynamite fishing.
Cant do shit without bodies to use the arms. Ukraine will run out of bodies before Russia runs out of ammo.the Russians cannot match the amount of material we are giving to Ukraine. In the long term it is impossible for them to win, unless they can pull of something drastic and quickly. They will simply be ground down to nothing, like Germany was in WW2.
That being said, the Biden Uniparty which stole the election and rules without consent, is criminal for stealing our tax money and giving it against our wishes to the foreign enemy juanta in Kiev, who has done more harm to American citizens than anyone else in recent memory. Their actions are treasonous, but they are doing it because Russia is one of the last independent nations left. They are worried that an intact, independent Russia might support some kind of uprising by Old America against the Globalist regime that has taken over our country, on the order of what France did in supporting the American revolution. Who knows, maybe in a few years, the Uniparty will send battle hardened Ukrainian "contractors" along with the police and US military to kick down doors in small town USA when the gun and property confiscations start up.
I'd buy that before I believe the US Navy did it like that one guy suggested. I personally don't believe that was a government affiliated attack by uniformed personnel , more along the lines of Industrial Espionage, some Merc/terrorist shit.
Na, likely privately funded.That one guy - you mean Seymour Hersh, who is probably the greatest living investigative journalist.
I’m sure they weren’t uniformed, but if you think this was not Government backed then you are either a credulous rube or just flat out retarded.
Sure is as everyone knows you cant catch tuna with a dynamite (or you need tons of it which kind of makes it impractical as boom attracts various interested parties which do not appreciate or partake in such endeavours - but i digress) only trout or carp and a diver or two on occasion.No... That is fucking stupid.
sieg heil to all you lovely Putainistas!I just found the one thing that zelenski hasn't pulled out of. That's Steve's ass
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Like this. I know the wife of someone on the ship that dumped usamas body, he claimed to see him first hand.
Photo shop.
You are the only one talking about tuna boats dip shit.Sure is as everyone knows you cant catch tuna with a dynamite (or you need tons of it which kind of makes it impractical as boom attracts various interested parties which do not appreciate or partake in such endeavours - but i digress) only trout or carp and a diver or two on occasion.
Sure as seeing is believing and since bin Ladini was pretty popular person at that time with many public appearances (especially his rich night life and tabloids that filled) half a world can actually claim to have known him personally.
Please dude you seem way above in virtual intelligence to be taking a "first hand seeing as a fact" or "ukro-polish bambam fishermen deltaseal operators" as a credible evidence or facts of how it really happened.
you watch that marxist faggot Steven Colbert? why am I not surprised. Steve, you are the Nancy Pelosi of SHsieg heil to all you lovely Putainistas! View attachment 8091540