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Is something going on in Ukraine?
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Hopefully america will have learned it's lesson and just sit this one out....
....maybe we'll wise up and sell arms and oil to both sides and just sit back and laugh while the rest of the world tears itself apart...
The Russians and Ukrainians agreed on a "Humanitarian Corridor" out of Sumy so they removed mines and blockades from a road out of town, now the Russians are coming down it & the Ukrainians are trying to fight them off:
I give it another week before the Ukrainians either surrender or the Russians go Russian and start destroying/looting etc.
I give it another week before the Ukrainians either surrender or the Russians go Russian and start destroying/looting etc.
i hope for an end to the killing
He has to surrender or become a guerilla leader who hides out in caves and shit. They destroy a dozen tanks every day but it doesn't matter because the russians have another dozen right behind them & putin doesn't care how many soldiers he loses. Boohoo they get to be heroes for russia lol.
weird, cause the msm says he is winning, and taking back airports and stuff.
weird, cause the msm says he is winning, and taking back airports and stuff.
I think they are right now, when the russians start pushing tons more equipment across the border not so much.
Russia will not stop till they get what they want on this one.
Probably at any cost.
The fact that the Ukraine corrupt regime is in bed with the worst of the American communists is all I need to know.
They both need to go.
I feel sorry for the Patriots in the Ukraine that don't know how bad their leaders are, time to wake up.
Probably at any cost.
The fact that the Ukraine corrupt regime is in bed with the worst of the American communists is all I need to know.
They both need to go.
I feel sorry for the Patriots in the Ukraine that don't know how bad their leaders are, time to wake up.
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People talking about Ukrainian Nazis forget that the same Democrats and media called us nazi too.
Yeah, but the azov battalion are literal Nazis....like, "supremacy of the white race" literal Nazis.....
...Not republicans that don't believe in race Marxism so that makes them "Nazis"....
Someone please educate me on this.
An invading force is upon Ukraine. The invading force is actually in cities now with armor, troops and whatever logistics they brought with them. (Civilians) are still all over the fucking place, some throwing molotov cocktails from moving vehicles. And when Russians engage they are killing (Civilians).
We did the same in Iraq. Vehicles that approached were engaged. Vehicles that got the courtesy of warning shots were just lucky.
3 minutes into this video explains it
And this
In my opinion, to overtake a city it needs to be done by force. I totally agree with the civilian population fighting back (And they should) but the other side of this coin is that the invading force should be well aware of this and taking each
An invading force is upon Ukraine. The invading force is actually in cities now with armor, troops and whatever logistics they brought with them. (Civilians) are still all over the fucking place, some throwing molotov cocktails from moving vehicles. And when Russians engage they are killing (Civilians).
We did the same in Iraq. Vehicles that approached were engaged. Vehicles that got the courtesy of warning shots were just lucky.
3 minutes into this video explains it
And this
In my opinion, to overtake a city it needs to be done by force. I totally agree with the civilian population fighting back (And they should) but the other side of this coin is that the invading force should be well aware of this and taking each
You can’t make this shit up!
The Satanist Mariana Abramovic shilling for Ukraine!!!!
This same woman! And you thought I was making shit up?
The Satanist Mariana Abramovic shilling for Ukraine!!!!
This same woman! And you thought I was making shit up?
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They are hiding the DARKEST of secrets in Ukraine.
Again, I’m not pro Russian. There are no winners in this conflict.
Again, I’m not pro Russian. There are no winners in this conflict.
So Poland flies all it's MiG29's to Germany, now the we have them, Poland gets rid of the hot potato and Ukraine pilots have to come and get them and fly them to Ukraine. What a game being played.
''It sounds like you do not approve Zelensky's stand''
2:00 forward
I guess someone at fox regretted not pulling the plug
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Every knee will bow
And some will look at the hero of those depicted above, and say "this was the guy who did all this mess?"
Vanities, all of em
Poof, gone, forgotten.
Bye
Never say "Never"...
March 8, 2022
WARSAW (Reuters) – Poland is ready to deploy all of its MIG-29 jets at Germany’s Ramstein airbase and make them available to the United States, and is urging other NATO members owning aircraft of the type to do the same The Foreign Ministry announced on Tuesday.
ustimetoday.com
March 8, 2022
WARSAW (Reuters) – Poland is ready to deploy all of its MIG-29 jets at Germany’s Ramstein airbase and make them available to the United States, and is urging other NATO members owning aircraft of the type to do the same The Foreign Ministry announced on Tuesday.
Poland is ready to make all of its MIG-29 jets available to the US - USTimeToday
March 8, 2022
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Poland just exchanged old crapy Mig29s for probably much newer US supplied F16 , and US government now owns the lot , that Ukrainians will not take, let alone fly into combat as it seems right now Zelensky is ready to sign a 'not-surrender' but really a surrender they are just going to name it xyz agreement
In an interview with ABC News, Zelensky also said that he now feels colder towards NATO, after realizing that the alliance doesn’t want to accept Ukraine and is afraid of confrontation with Russia.
The Fulcrum is actually still a good plane. It was designed to go up against F-15s. I'll bet the Polish ones have upgraded fire control and AS radar. There are a lot worse fighters in service around the world.
That’s a death switch.Never say "Never"...
March 8, 2022
WARSAW (Reuters) – Poland is ready to deploy all of its MIG-29 jets at Germany’s Ramstein airbase and make them available to the United States, and is urging other NATO members owning aircraft of the type to do the same The Foreign Ministry announced on Tuesday.
Poland is ready to make all of its MIG-29 jets available to the US - USTimeToday
March 8, 2022
Don’t touch it!
Sine when is it our responsibility?
CIA wet dream of yet another guerrilla war with the Russians only Zelensky and the Ukrainians aren't too eager to be guerrillas.
Poland's Mig29s upgrade was quite limited, mainly to avionics to make it more NATO compatible i haven't seen any upgrades to Fire control or radar. Although it seems they were shopping for some Russian IRST parts/upgrade in 2013
Mig29 is very capable but there is hardly a way to fly them to Ukraine, base them inside Ukraine and not have them reduced to scrap within hours.
If Poles were smart they would have offloaded them to US in exchange for much more modern F16 while US was still so eager ( outside of a boneyard i don't think US has any with such dated fire control systems) that they already operate and let US worry about what to do with them.
All of the Polish MiGs undergoing modernization are said to receive the new avionics by the end of next year.(2013)
The scope of modernization includes changing the analog avionics to digital ones, including new mission planning computer and data bus, to which additional devices may be connected.
Furthermore, the mechanical gyro is replaced with a laser system. Digital map and MFD (Multi-Function Display) are features of the program.
Finally, Poland and NATO will need to worry about the equipment on the MiG-29 fleet operated by Warsaw. This is because Poland's MiG-29 jets have been upgraded with specific equipment such as radios, navigation and secure communication equipment to make them interoperable with NATO forces.
Transferring the jets to Ukraine would mean these components would likely have to be removed, given fears Russia could get hold of them.
seems limited upgrade Polish Mig29
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I have no dog in this fight......
We won't take Russian oil but we will take worn out Russian Mig's............
Something is not adding up
Deal brokered by Hunter Biden...............
I hear US guberment has a huge order of Crack pipes incoming , maybe off load them to Ukraine instead of the fighter jets i am sure Hunter can demonstrate to Ukrainians how he uses them.
On bio labs! I guess ''research materials'' might not be that innocent if they are actually worried about them falling into Russian hands. I am just not seeing them working on next-gen Cancer treatments
On bio labs! I guess ''research materials'' might not be that innocent if they are actually worried about them falling into Russian hands. I am just not seeing them working on next-gen Cancer treatments
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Translational: Yes, US was making bioweapons in Ukraine. Not fake news. So, the next pandemic or worse could be released at any time.
Poland doesn't want to take responsibility for giving Migs to Ukraine, so it gives them to US so US can give them to Ukraine. They in exchange get a nice new little what - F16? or better? Just so US can drag this out and claim "none of our soldiers/pilots were in Ukraine".
I'm finally understanding that every "deal" has a grifting/money laundering component.
But its Fox news...
not suggesting it is. He’s figuring out that nobody’s coming to save him. I think he thought the West would step in full stop.
They’ve got their guerrilla war. I think the reality is starting to hit him. He’s an actor/comedian not a coldhearted politician.
I agree those things are older. With out support, AWAC/Ground control, they are not very capable.Poland's Mig29s upgrade was quite limited, mainly to avionics to make it more NATO compatible i haven't seen any upgrades to Fire control or radar. Although it seems they were shopping for some Russian IRST parts/upgrade in 2013
Mig29 is very capable but there is hardly a way to fly them to Ukraine, base them inside Ukraine and not have them reduced to scrap within hours.
If Poles were smart they would have offloaded them to US in exchange for much more modern F16 while US was still so eager ( outside of a boneyard i don't think US has any with such dated fire control systems) that they already operate and let US worry about what to do with them.
All of the Polish MiGs undergoing modernization are said to receive the new avionics by the end of next year.(2013)
The scope of modernization includes changing the analog avionics to digital ones, including new mission planning computer and data bus, to which additional devices may be connected.
Furthermore, the mechanical gyro is replaced with a laser system. Digital map and MFD (Multi-Function Display) are features of the program.
Finally, Poland and NATO will need to worry about the equipment on the MiG-29 fleet operated by Warsaw. This is because Poland's MiG-29 jets have been upgraded with specific equipment such as radios, navigation and secure communication equipment to make them interoperable with NATO forces.
Transferring the jets to Ukraine would mean these components would likely have to be removed, given fears Russia could get hold of them.
seems limited upgrade Polish Mig29
Soviet era doctrine relied on ground control guidance to put the aircraft on target. Acting solely without the support structure... I can’t see these things making much of a difference.
Kinetically they’re bad ass. Helmet mounted site with high off boresight missiles are deadly in close Air to Air but they’re not very good at long range interception. Russia’s modern flankers and SAM systems would likely destroy these things if they’re not struck on the ground by missiles. Look up the Ethiopia Eritera war. When Su-27 and Mig-29 did fight each other. I have already seen satellite images of cratered Ukraine runways destroyed fuel depot hangers their Air Force Base headquarters etc. They are also very short ranged and do not have the ability to fly from Germany into Ukraine and carry out combat missions they’d be out of gas.
Has anyone figured out what nationality the pilots of the Migs will be ? Mercenaries?... Academi / Blackwater ? Uber drivers ?
Will they fly in Russian airspace ?
IDK
I haven't seen that much analog stuff in a very long time.Poland's Mig29s upgrade was quite limited, mainly to avionics to make it more NATO compatible i haven't seen any upgrades to Fire control or radar. Although it seems they were shopping for some Russian IRST parts/upgrade in 2013
Mig29 is very capable but there is hardly a way to fly them to Ukraine, base them inside Ukraine and not have them reduced to scrap within hours.
If Poles were smart they would have offloaded them to US in exchange for much more modern F16 while US was still so eager ( outside of a boneyard i don't think US has any with such dated fire control systems) that they already operate and let US worry about what to do with them.
All of the Polish MiGs undergoing modernization are said to receive the new avionics by the end of next year.(2013)
The scope of modernization includes changing the analog avionics to digital ones, including new mission planning computer and data bus, to which additional devices may be connected.
Furthermore, the mechanical gyro is replaced with a laser system. Digital map and MFD (Multi-Function Display) are features of the program.
Finally, Poland and NATO will need to worry about the equipment on the MiG-29 fleet operated by Warsaw. This is because Poland's MiG-29 jets have been upgraded with specific equipment such as radios, navigation and secure communication equipment to make them interoperable with NATO forces.
Transferring the jets to Ukraine would mean these components would likely have to be removed, given fears Russia could get hold of them.
seems limited upgrade Polish Mig29
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www.barrons.com
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Soaring commodity prices and rising inflation overall have one analyst pointing to the stock as a buy.
Video #2. I wonder if those troops receive a medal. Not that I don’t think they shouldn’t.
yeah, why is a country that needs our taxes to survive running multiple biolabs and working on deadly things?
Good grief man. That was debunked within hours.
They didn't bomb a nuclear power plant. It was a building nearby that the Ukrainian army was using to attack from.
If they had wouldn't there be fallout already?
Stop believing the propaganda.
They didn't bomb a nuclear power plant. It was a building nearby that the Ukrainian army was using to attack from.
If they had wouldn't there be fallout already?
Stop believing the propaganda.
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