Is something going on in Ukraine?

[GreenGO Juan]

Most radars have frequency filters to assist them in discriminating likely targets out of busy backgrounds. One of those filters is speed relative to the emitter and other background.

I believe one of the tactics in trying to counter radar during air engagements is to have yourself moving at a direction roughly perpendicular to a radar source when they are trying to discriminate and get a target quality lock. This can put your plane in their "slot" where their filters tune you out because you have no approach or departure vector in relation to the emitter and receiver. Exploiting this software filter has been very successful in BVR maneuvering against an opponent.

No expert on any of the above.
.

Notching. Which is more effective on older pulse doppler. Modern AESA not so much.

If a lab radar can pick up a bullet with battery power, think of what a multiple kilowatt array can detect. To change the filtering to look at small slow moving targets would definitely mean you are tracking birds.

 

[Terry Cross]

Notching. Which is more effective on older pulse doppler. Modern AESA not so much.

If a lab radar can pick up a bullet with battery power, think of what a multiple kilowatt array can pick detect. To change the filtering to look at small slow moving targets would definitely mean you are tracking birds.

Sorry. You are correct. I have no clue where I pulled "slot" out of my ass on.

./

 

[GreenGO Juan]

All good man you understand the concept. I am no expert on the topic either. Potato Potatoe

Sorry. You are correct. I have no clue where I pulled "slot" out of my ass on.

./

 

[Oldloser]

yes, almost exactly. Google translate often does well with Russian to English; however the English to Russian is often incomprehensible.

Russian to English in google translate is horrible both directions with some ludicrous results. Russian sentence construction is very different from English. Russian has many words with zero cognates in English. And Russian verbs of motion don't translate well to English. Finally the French and German influences on Russian went in different directions.

 

[Oldloser]

You claim inverted population is an issue but then admit modern farming exponentially increased food supply. Wheat gmo revolution saved India.
t.

GMO did not save anything. It was proper variety selection, proper tilling and soil management, planting right and the right time in the correct soil, and fertilizers.

 

[Oldloser]

Obviously the US transformed into an industrial farming civilization post-WWII, not an individual subsistence farming culture. Making anecdotal references to someone in the 21st Century leaving the family farm has no real meaning in that context, because everyone but the large operations has mostly done that decades ago. And farming yields have only grown.

The Dutch and then the British pioneered the concept of private property, improved crop methods, testing of methods, and sharing of information. All this began in the Dutch farmlands during the stress of the Spanish invasions. The revolution also occurred in trading, ship building, printing, manufacturing, etc. It spread to England. Both were desperate to fight off Catholic Spain.

 

[Oldloser]

Not the first time..

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[Darayavaus]

Russian to English in google translate is horrible both directions with some ludicrous results. Russian sentence construction is very different from English. Russian has many words with zero cognates in English. And Russian verbs of motion don't translate well to English. Finally the French and German influences on Russian went in different directions.

right. I would never trust it to translate a lengthy phrase or anything colloquial. In this case, I showed a native speaker the original and the translation I received was very close to what the poster put up.

 

[lariat]

Well, here you go. Crenshaw has spoken so you now know what to think.

Dan Crenshaw: We should stop listening to Putin

 

[MadDuner]

Well, here you go. Crenshaw has spoken so you now know what to think.

Dan Crenshaw: We should stop listening to Putin

I completely disregard absolutely any and every thing ever presented on MSN as being 100%, false and 180* away from truth.

 

[canman]

Well he is right. We should stop listening to Putin, Biden, Kamila, the MSM and everyone else including Mr. Crenshaw. Thankyou for your service Dan but you all have a stick in the fire and are looking out for yourselves. Don't get me wrong I'm only looking out for me and mine but I'm not on the Gov't payroll with our tax money. As I've said before to nauseam for all of you I'm sure...The Southern Border of the United States is OUR problem. Add BLM and the Gov't alphabet agency's to that, and we have plenty that should keep us busy.

 

[RGStory]

So dastardy Russians blew up a shopping mall in Kiev.


Well once you start to utilize it as an improvised artillery outpost its bound to get hit.


From the drone footage, it seems they observed the MLRS and tracked it or the accompanying vehicles to the 'nest' once all the chicken were in place they made

I suspect this wasn't a firing position but an ammo storage and resupply or maybe just a motor pool. Either way it does appear that it was a valid military target.

 

[LRRPF52]

So have I.

I'm glad for you that you once read about the Soviet Union and Russia. I studied it; have degrees in the history of it, and taught in the former USSR, among other places in Europe, Asia, and Central America.

You have "extended family". I have extended family that went into the Gulags and disappeared, others who were shot outright, some who were shot by the Nazis, and some who were shot by the Soviets. I have relatives who speak Russian entirely. I have a large number of friends from Ukraine and Russia, very educated people, who are on both sides of the issue.

But rather than discuss a topic or two in a reasonable, organized manner as I suggested, you got nasty and personal, so if you want to play that way, I'll return the favor.

In your colossal arrogance and insufferable long-windedness, you ignore one fact:

Your posts and your opinions do not interest me enough to engage with you to the extent that you DEMAND. I do not care for your tone or your opinions, for the most part. And as I come here recreationally - for entertainment and the enjoyment of jumping around various topics, it does not interest me to be stalked by a fanatic. I do not care to come home from work to see flashing notices that you are demanding responses to 3,000 word essays.

I don't have the time to deal with you. And in response to your earlier insults, it is not a matter of "attention span", it is a matter of interest.

And quite frankly, I have already seen enough to know that I don't give a shit what you think. Thank you.


And PS- the vast majority of your "responses" to me don't have a single fucking thing to do with anything I said to you. you simply get revved up and fly off the edge on 101 different topics shoved into one post, combined with your sulky, nasty attitude when you don't get lauded as some kind of genius. It's a mania you have. And as I attempted to say to you the first time, if you want to talk about one or two issues, and then move on, I'll engage. But I'll not let you latch on endlessly with your ridiculous mega-posts.

So you’re an academic with no personal experience living in Russia. If you go back in read through, you made it personal from the start, questioning my experience with geography and immersion that clearly rival your own claims.

I then addressed your incorrect statements about the situation, which are quite easy to break down, while agreeing with you in several areas. It isn’t emotional, just the facts. I’m anything but a nasty person. You’re reading into it with the wrong signals.

On one hand you’re an academic used to lecturing others, but on the other you can’t read a few short paragraphs with diagrams to help with systemic ADD. Which is it? You obviously care or else you wouldn’t have responded, wouldn’t have gone immediately to the ad hominem route. Ad hominem means you have no substantive argument.

Argue the merits, which will place you in direct odds with geographic and historic realities that you should know. I’ve taught in the former USSR, former Russian Empire, and lived all over Russia. You specifically didn’t mention living in Russia, so I’m not sure how familiar you are with the way things work there. Having friends is one thing, but living in multiple Russian cities will give you an interesting perspective that can’t be gained from what your friends tell you.

Most people go through a honeymoon stage when traveling abroad, are limited to tourist attractions, short stays, then dasvidanya. Very few get to see the internal rot and structural problems far from major attractions.

A lot of academics from the Soviet times were fed so much retardation, that they learned neural pathways that can’t be overcome with the facts. I saw some of that, though academics are few and far between there after generations of brain drain, brain flight.

 

[NoDopes]

GMO did not save anything. It was proper variety selection, proper tilling and soil management, planting right and the right time in the correct soil, and fertilizers.

Borlaug's new semi-dwarf, disease-resistant varieties, called Pitic 62 and Penjamo 62, changed the potential yield of spring wheat dramatically. By 1963, 95% of Mexico's wheat crops used the semi-dwarf varieties developed by Borlaug. That year, the harvest was six times larger than in 1944, the year Borlaug arrived in Mexico. Mexico had become fully self-sufficient in wheat production, and a net exporter of wheat.[33] Four other high-yield varieties were also released, in 1964: Lerma Rojo 64, Siete Cerros, Sonora 64, and Super X.

My understanding is that they also included radiation experiments to help create the dwarfism.

Norman Borlaug - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[LRRPF52]

If it's 400 yo stress, seems like it's manageable.

You claim inverted population is an issue but then admit modern farming exponentially increased food supply. Wheat gmo revolution saved India.
Those older folks will die off and greenies will be happy. I see the problem that the US printing trillions of $$$ is leading to oligarchy owning all land and homes as the real slave inducing move.
That and the fact that majority of people now realize that 100s of thousands of voters in the last election had impossible birth dates or non-existent addresses may be the end of this experiment.

Here’s what I’m talking about regarding the last 400 years of Chinese population explosion:

One reason the US has been able to engage in so much Quantitative Easing is that Trillions of foreign money has been flowing into our economy for the past 3 decades. Businessmen in other countries have seen the ground-level structural problems and are investing in the US at gargantuan proportions. Even with all the foreign investments and foreign creditors wanting a piece of the action, they don’t hold the majority of US debt. We do.

I added up all the years of just foreign direct business investments (FDI) from 1997-2019, and it came to $3.845 Trillion. This is one reason why Congress and multiple Presidents haven’t worried much about QE. But now interest rates will hike up, which should help shift the foreign investments into other than residential real estate. That has caused an unprecedented hike in our average home sale transaction prices.

The voting manipulation is another issue, but one that I also have been extremely upset with not only for 2020, but for decades. If we don’t get that under control, people will feel left with no other alternative but violence. The elites in the top 10 industries that control Congress aren’t worried about it though, as long as Americans are fat and happy sucking down their corporate garbage products with low unemployment rates. The US is better insulated than anyone on earth for the coming global meltdown, and they know it.

 

[RGStory]

What is the real situation?
The defense department spokesman was on Fox.
All the Pravda is shouting how poorly Russia is doing
Zelenski is ready to negotiate
Zelenski wants a no fly zone
Zelenski is asking for mercenaries
Zelenski is asking for weapons

Those are not the things a winning side does.

The Russians had to call in the Chechen's and are paying a rental fee of 1 General per week. These two things do not indicate that the Russians are doing a great job.


Looks like we can look forward to hearing "allahu akbar" again in battle footage.

 

[Oldloser]

right. I would never trust it to translate a lengthy phrase or anything colloquial. In this case, I showed a native speaker the original and the translation I received was very close to what the poster put up.

My proficiency in Russian is a level 4.

Russian verbs of motion are notoriously hard to translate to English. And they have verbs for every kind of transport you can imagine. Planes, trains, automobiles, walking, running. And have they left yet, are they about to leave, are they on their way, are the almost there, have they just arrived, have they been there a while? Are they talking about a particular area in Russia or terrain feature? Just talking about Ukraine, they use different word combinations vs any other area. All this means something and most Russians are very very picky about this.

When I look at any online translation tool, or any linguist, I ask myself, "Would I take a platoon somewhere to do something based on this translation?" Or that person's skills? Its fine for a gist but its useless beyond that.

 

[Oldloser]

My understanding is that they also included radiation experiments to help create the dwarfism.

Norman Borlaug - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Radiation increased the number of random mutations to speed up the selection process. Dwarfism meant less lodging (when plant falls over in wind or rain), less energy into stem, and shorter growing cycle to use the moisture better before it got too hot for C3 process to work. All this was well understood and so were the goals. Borlaug was able to communicate this well and set the goals too.

 

[LRRPF52]

What I took from those charts is that there is a large surplus of young unattached women in Russia

There were a lot of old widows, as well as widows in their mid-late 30s.

One of the things that you see after a while in Russian culture is that they have an extremely reckless approach to life, and are reserved to their terrible lot in the world being frozen and isolated from the trade routes. Peter the Great tried to address this as best he could by building a city on a swamp that would have reach into the Baltic, and is the father of the Russian Navy. I spent a day touring the Peter the Great Naval Museum in Saint Petersburg on one of my 8 times going through there.

You don’t see a lot of happiness in Russia. Most of those guys who drank themselves to death in their 30s and 40s did so because of the women, not for many other reasons. A Russian woman can be a thing of terror, not that they have a patent on it, but combined with the lack of sunshine, extreme cold temps, no vibrant economic activity, and you see why Russia is a dreary place where dudes just say eff it, pass the vyodkya.

They were far better off under the Czars. The Bolsheviks ruined that nation and there isn’t anything they can do to reverse the course I’m afraid. If you ever get a chance to behold the misery of Krushchev-era apartments, they are one of the most depressing things I’ve ever seen or visited.

 

[Oldloser]

The Russians had to call in the Chechen's and are paying a rental fee of 1 General per week. These two things do not indicate that the Russians are doing a great job.


Looks like we can look forward to hearing "allahu akbar" again in battle footage.

Clean uniforms and weapons, relaxed, security out, good separation and movement, lots of communication and cohesion, radios working well, vehicles clean and motors sound good. What is not to like?

 

[UKDslayer]

I did not fact check

British Fighters Triggered Deadly Missile Strike On Ukrainian Base With Their Cell Phones - American Partisan

AP NOTES: This is why Signals Intelligence is so incredibly […]

www.americanpartisan.org

Poorly worded title. The cells phones allowed geolocation which facilitated opposition missile attack. Their own cell phones did not "trigger" a missile like they triggered IEDs in ME.

 

[BLEE]

To me this "bombing" appears to be internal explosions, similar to demolitions. Can artillery, or aerial bombing cause explosions that look like these? Seems like we would see the shells, or bombs hitting, first. The blasts are coming from under the roof tops. I've only seen war footage of artillery and aerial bombing and they never looked like this.

 

[Darayavaus]

My proficiency in Russian is a level 4.

Russian verbs of motion are notoriously hard to translate to English. And they have verbs for every kind of transport you can imagine. Planes, trains, automobiles, walking, running. And have they left yet, are they about to leave, are they on their way, are the almost there, have they just arrived, have they been there a while? Are they talking about a particular area in Russia or terrain feature? Just talking about Ukraine, they use different word combinations vs any other area. All this means something and most Russians are very very picky about this.

When I look at any online translation tool, or any linguist, I ask myself, "Would I take a platoon somewhere to do something based on this translation?" Or that person's skills? Its fine for a gist but its useless beyond that.

I have already stated the inaccuracy of any English to Russia translation using google, you revisited that and I again agreed. I have also stated that google translate can not be used for anything complicated, beyond a word or two of direct translation.

So, I am not sure why you are continuing this thread. Do you disagree with the translation, if so please state what is fundamentally wrong with the translation which the other poster provided.

 

[LRRPF52]

Strategically, I see 3 major outcome possibilities with this war:

1. Putin eventually successfully takes Kiev, occupies, then deals with a drawn-out counter-occupation fed by other nations who don’t want this spilling into Romania, Bulgaria, Turkey, Poland, the Baltics, and Finland. That’s literally the best-case scenario (for Putin) and it will still add extreme volatility to the region and world. The tactical nuke option still is a very possible threat in that situation, so the uneasiness in Europe would remain and get worse.

2. Putin’s own cabinet (and what few rivals remain) don’t like the loss of forces, world humiliation Russia is imposing on themselves, and Putin executes even more of them as protestors continue to organize and demonstrate, especially mothers of sons who have been killed thinking they were going on exercises. Internal pressure builds against him, which he won’t back down from. Frustrated with opposition at home and the lack of progress in the war, he escalates the types of weapons to include TBMs, worst case even a tactical nuke. This guy isn’t the type of person who backs down from his commitments and he can’t afford to now. This is the path I think we’re headed down.

3. Internal opposition formed from a group of his former colleagues who run Russian Oil/NG/mining multi-billion operations see no long-term benefits to this, and organize an assassination, then one who is already chosen takes the throne and announces peace from Russia for the foreseeable future, everyone can calm down now, they just want to trade with other nations on favorable status, let Ukraine do what they want, with some major attempts to negotiate economic deals for Russia that will mitigate their bad position in the world and depressed economy.

This would be the best option for Russia and the region/world, as it would rapidly de-escalate the conflict and allow Europe and China to take a deep breath. Because right now, everyone is on edge about what happens next.

 

[Mr.BR]

The Russians had to call in the Chechen's and are paying a rental fee of 1 General per week. These two things do not indicate that the Russians are doing a great job.


Looks like we can look forward to hearing "allahu akbar" again in battle footage.

Russians use Chechens in all their wars was so also in Soviet times. Some folks are more expendable than others.
*on the other note for all practical reasons is as close as you get to claim when things get dire you send in black soldiers from Illinois. 'Snackbar's' are are part of the Russian federation millions of them.

But browsing VK ,while you see folks rooting for the Chechens , there is always some racism in the background ,Russians being a Racist bunch -> ''Orcs killing slavs again''

 

[canman]

Clean uniforms and weapons, relaxed, security out, good separation and movement, lots of communication and cohesion, radios working well, vehicles clean and motors sound good. What is not to like?

I hear ya. I'm around structures that actually have a roof and I can almost be warm tonight I'm in a good place

 

[Darayavaus]

So you’re an academic with no personal experience living in Russia. If you go back in read through, you made it personal from the start, questioning my experience with geography and immersion that clearly rival your own claims.

I then addressed your incorrect statements about the situation, which are quite easy to break down, while agreeing with you in several areas. It isn’t emotional, just the facts. I’m anything but a nasty person. You’re reading into it with the wrong signals.

On one hand you’re an academic used to lecturing others, but on the other you can’t read a few short paragraphs with diagrams to help with systemic ADD. Which is it? You obviously care or else you wouldn’t have responded, wouldn’t have gone immediately to the ad hominem route. Ad hominem means you have no substantive argument.

Argue the merits, which will place you in direct odds with geographic and historic realities that you should know. I’ve taught in the former USSR, former Russian Empire, and lived all over Russia. You specifically didn’t mention living in Russia, so I’m not sure how familiar you are with the way things work there. Having friends is one thing, but living in multiple Russian cities will give you an interesting perspective that can’t be gained from what your friends tell you.

Most people go through a honeymoon stage when traveling abroad, are limited to tourist attractions, short stays, then dasvidanya. Very few get to see the internal rot and structural problems far from major attractions.

A lot of academics from the Soviet times were fed so much retardation, that they learned neural pathways that can’t be overcome with the facts. I saw some of that, though academics are few and far between there after generations of brain drain, brain flight.

Again, your assumptions (and your post is again full of assumptions) are idiotic. You may post your opinion all you want, but it does not "disprove" anything I said.

Your statement that I "can't read a few short paragraphs" is equally idiotic. Your opinionated posts do not interest me, which is why I have been trying to avoid you, and I have said before that I find all conversation with you extremely tedious, exacerbated by the fact that you continually quote my posts, and then go off on long tangents that have nothing to do with anything I said.

I find you maniacal; and based on the fact that you insist on harassing me, long after I have told you time and time again to shove off; my own "assumptions" are that you are either a narcissist who needs constant approval, or you simply have a behavioral disorder like Asperger's and cannot help yourself, but just naturally seek out people with knowledge and then inflict yourself on them, pestering them relentlessly because that's how your brain is wired.

Side note, I like how you included "former Russian Empire" when you could have simply said "Finland" but then again, "Former Russian Empire" makes you sound so much more credible than simply naming Finland, a random European country that is not Russia. Finland itself is not well thought of by Russians; they consider Finns to be yappy little dogs who are constantly barking at the Russian bear (much like your interactions with me.)

Personally, I don't hold the same prejudice. As a student of military history, I appreciate Finland's fight for independence as well as it's amazing defense during the Winter War and it's somewhat less effective contributions in the Continuation War.

Now, to your contrived statement about Russian academics, your strawman is to use the term 'academics from the Soviet times' in order to switch my point about anti-communists and outright dissidents who have known, to your own strawman of pro-communist soviet stooges. Like most of what you bait and switch, nothing can be further from the truth.

Hopefully this is the end of my interaction with you, but if I read your mania correctly, you will respond.

 

[RGStory]

Clean uniforms and weapons, relaxed, security out, good separation and movement, lots of communication and cohesion, radios working well, vehicles clean and motors sound good. What is not to like?

Nothing. Nothing at all. It would appear the best hands for Russian made weapons is anyone that is not a Russian. Certainly a better performance than the preparatory training done by the Southern Military District before the invasion.




Everyone thought the Russian MOD released this to lure their opponents into a false sense of security. Apparently, it was just a precursor to their performance ahead.

 

[Darayavaus]

The Russians had to call in the Chechen's and are paying a rental fee of 1 General per week. These two things do not indicate that the Russians are doing a great job.


Looks like we can look forward to hearing "allahu akbar" again in battle footage.

all of the videos of the Chechens that I have seen are underwhelming.
In fact it reminded me of what our military advisors said about the South Vietnamese: "if they aren't Red, they're yellow". If you get the reference.

 

[MarinePMI]

Nothing. Nothing at all. It would appear the best hands for Russian made weapons is anyone that is not a Russian. Certainly a better performance than the preparatory training done by the Southern Military District before the invasion.




Everyone thought the Russian MOD released this to lure their opponents into a false sense of security. Apparently, it was just a precursor to their performance ahead.

What. In the ever loving. Fuck. Did I just watch? If that's their "special operations" capabilities, no wonder they're getting their asses handed to them in Ukraine.

Yeah, let's assault up an OPEN street, with NO COVER. Yeah, that sounds like a great idea...

This looks like the same crap I saw the Army teaching their recruits, before OIF/GWOT. Smh...I remember telling a fellow Marine NCO "They're going to bury half these guys if they go into combat with that training." And at the beginning of the insurgency I was (unfortunately) correct.


@TheGerman has just GOT to see this crap. LOL!

 

[MadDuner]

What. In the ever loving. Fuck. Did I just watch? If that's their "special operations" capabilities, no wonder they're getting their asses handed to them in Ukraine.

Yeah, let's assault up an OPEN street, with NO COVER. Yeah, that sounds like a great idea...

This looks like the same crap I saw the Army teaching their recruits, before OIF/GWOT. Smh...I remember telling a fellow Marine NCO "They're going to bury half these guys if they go into combat with that training." And at the beginning of the insurgency I was (unfortunately) correct.


@TheGerman has just GOT to see this crap. LOL!

Good thing nobody was shooting back at them!

 

[W54/XM-388]

What. In the ever loving. Fuck. Did I just watch? If that's their "special operations" capabilities, no wonder they're getting their asses handed to them in Ukraine.

Yeah, let's assault up an OPEN street, with NO COVER. Yeah, that sounds like a great idea...

This looks like the same crap I saw the Army teaching their recruits, before OIF/GWOT. Smh...I remember telling a fellow Marine NCO "They're going to bury half these guys if they go into combat with that training." And at the beginning of the insurgency I was (unfortunately) correct.


@TheGerman has just GOT to see this crap. LOL!

Have you seen the way many of the "Patriot" or "Prepper" or "Militia" types tend to train for the coming (insert whatever name is in use that day for the great time of fighting somebody or other)?

It seems folks at all levels don't quite get how a two way range works until they have recently been on one.

Also meaning no disrespect to the followers of the Prophet, it's a fair bit different having a two way range in the lands of the sands,
Compared to fighting on a two way range with people that have a fair bit higher IQ, more training and lots of good weapons.

 

[RGStory]

What. In the ever loving. Fuck. Did I just watch? If that's their "special operations" capabilities, no wonder they're getting their asses handed to them in Ukraine.

Yeah, let's assault up an OPEN street, with NO COVER. Yeah, that sounds like a great idea...

This looks like the same crap I saw the Army teaching their recruits, before OIF/GWOT. Smh...I remember telling a fellow Marine NCO "They're going to bury half these guys if they go into combat with that training." And at the beginning of the insurgency I was (unfortunately) correct.


@TheGerman has just GOT to see this crap. LOL!

Unfortunately your prediction would prove to be correct.

Lieutenant-General Andrey Mordvichev was the commander of the 8th Army of the Southern Military District. The video shows a Southern Military District training exercise preparing for the invasion.

Lieutenant-General Andrey Mordvichev was the fifth Russian general killed in this war.

 

[TheGerman]

What. In the ever loving. Fuck. Did I just watch? If that's their "special operations" capabilities, no wonder they're getting their asses handed to them in Ukraine.

Yeah, let's assault up an OPEN street, with NO COVER. Yeah, that sounds like a great idea...

This looks like the same crap I saw the Army teaching their recruits, before OIF/GWOT. Smh...I remember telling a fellow Marine NCO "They're going to bury half these guys if they go into combat with that training." And at the beginning of the insurgency I was (unfortunately) correct.


@TheGerman has just GOT to see this crap. LOL!

28 seconds in is the best.

Imma just waddle up behind you and shoot over your head.

I think they are blanks given that they are 'shooting' at a live person right at the end, hence why they don't seem to care about their safety.

But yeah, no.

 

[canman]

Yep. Training, especially with blanks is just that training. Until someone is shooting back what you learn is of limited value.

 

[akmike47]

It’s weird there wasn’t a huge influx of foreign fighters from the west anywhere else there’s been fighting . Yeah there was a chunk joined the peshmerga, but nothing like this. Why didn’t they join the military here if they want to fight so badly? they had plenty of time the last 20 years.

 

[Mr.BR]

Have you ever before seen such media framing of war than in Ukraine? the most black and white good vs bad in a long time.

Allah al Akbar on both sides of this war , Ukrainian akbars this time

 

[akmike47]

These links never work for me

 

[DarnYankeeUSMC]

The Russians had to call in the Chechen's and are paying a rental fee of 1 General per week. These two things do not indicate that the Russians are doing a great job.


Looks like we can look forward to hearing "allahu akbar" again in battle footage.

How many contractors did the USA pay during the 20 years in Afghanistan/Iraq?

 

[BLEE]

These links never work for me

Ditto

 

[RGStory]

How many contractors did the USA pay during the 20 years in Afghanistan/Iraq?

Too many.

 

[Redmanss]

How many contractors did the USA pay during the 20 years in Afghanistan/Iraq?

Those contractors (short of OGA types in very limited instances) never served in an offensive role. "Force multiplier" to free up forces from defensive positions so they could go offensive? Sure, but more or less in the same tradition as "Free a man to fight".

 

[QuickNDirty]

Joke's on y'all, @MarinePMI and @TheGerman - Those, there, are Russian supersoldiers who can take a full belt off an M2 and heal up within a half a second. Not bullet proof, just impossible to kill. They don't need no stinkin' cover.

 

[theLBC]

 

[theLBC]

apparently not learning from their prior mistakes.

 

[n2ishun]

How many contractors did the USA pay during the 20 years in Afghanistan/Iraq?

All of them.

 

[10ring'r]

Holy F, you're back! We are saved! Mac

 

[theLBC]

don't know if you saw this yet...

In an interview with CNN, Zelenskyy spoke about his prior communication with Joe Biden and NATO leadership. Within the interview Zelenskyy said (emphasis mine):

“I requested them personally to say directly that we are going to accept you into NATO in a year or two or five, just say it directly and clearly, or just say no,” Zelensky said. “And the response was very clear, you’re not going to be a NATO member, but publicly, the doors will remain open,” he said. {CITATION)

So, privately NATO and the Biden administration were telling Zelenskyy Ukraine was never going to be in NATO, yet they told him they were going to publicly act like the possibility existed. There was no way for Ukraine to enter NATO, but they were going to pretend he could. Why would they do this?

Admission From Zelenskyy Highlights How Biden Administration Wanted To Provoke Russia To Invade Ukraine - The Last Refuge

Hopefully by now everyone is well aware how the U.S. State Department has been manipulating the internal politics of Ukraine for well over a decade. A recent statement, by current Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelenskyy, puts the weeks leading up to the Russian invasion into greater clarity. In an...

theconservativetreehouse.com

 

[LRRPF52]

Russians use Chechens in all their wars was so also in Soviet times. Some folks are more expendable than others.
*on the other note for all practical reasons is as close as you get to claim when things get dire you send in black soldiers from Illinois. 'Snackbar's' are are part of the Russian federation millions of them.

But browsing VK ,while you see folks rooting for the Chechens , there is always some racism in the background ,Russians being a Racist bunch -> ''Orcs killing slavs again''

They used Ukrainians to launch waves of human assaults into Finland in the Winter War. Knocked out 2 birds with one stone for Stalin by wasting as many prime age fighting males from Ukraine, and taking back Finland simultaneously. Well, at least he accomplished one of those goals.

Same for Chechens. Russia still struggles with managing Ingushetia, Dagestan, and Chechnya. Russia has been running death squads there, with ethnic cleansing, counter-occupation attacks, reprisals, and all that goes with trying to subjugate a people in the Caucasus, one of the main geographic border regions between Russia and their Southern historic rivals in Turkey and Persia.

 

[DarnYankeeUSMC]

Those contractors (short of OGA types in very limited instances) never served in an offensive role. "Force multiplier" to free up forces from defensive positions so they could go offensive? Sure, but more or less in the same tradition as "Free a man to fight".

So the Chechen fighters are being used differently. Hired guns for one reason or another are hired guns. Saying that Putin has called them in because they are getting their ass kicked is not factual.
It's funny listening to the generals of the past and all the other mouth breathers going on every channel to tell how" Putin's goals" are a failure. Who the Fuck actually knows what his plans are? Definitely not some has been ass kissing general out grubbing for money from CNN.