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so they make the nazis eat crackers in bed and force them to sleep on the crumbs?!!!
fucking monsters!!!
 
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101st being mobile and light replacing 82nd in "permanent training forward deployment area" i would guess not long in the future there will be a race to "somewhere" will it be Odessa? We'll see i'm thinking NATO would like to keep Kiev/Uman/Odessa line and split country this way however that would be quite an endeavor as over the ground would be too far and wouldn't make it in time (Polish troops in particular). Air movement might be tricky as Russians may decide to start shooting invaders from the West down and that won't fly well at home.
What happens if White and Red Russians :) decide to play hardball going for jugular (Brest/Lutsk/Lvov-Termopil-Zhytomir) cutting Poles off?

In reality the war option as in sticking foot between the door with 101st in Odessa is off the table i guess as Russians made it clear where their red lines are and door will smash foot easily as its too small, light and unsupported force made for airmobile/recon stuff not "keeping big doors open".

Will it be negotiation about line splits where you need mobile troops to enter Napoleon style with full MSM support as in Saving Private Zelensky with under the table agreement of the "new border reality" and proper separation to prevent 101st becoming 404?

There is still the interesting idea west is playing with and that is we detonate a dirty nuke in Ukraine, MSM goes into full frenzy, Russians taste this bad medicine and decide to play ball and start pretending they are just a Gas station again and glorious new world order emerges where we people are all brothers slaves to the elected leaders feudal lords.

Well i guess in 30-60 days we'll know and if 3rd option is on the table cool, enjoy the flashes and if you don't vaporize enjoy the cool summers and nice cold winters, skiing should be good in the aftermath - no lines to worry about.
 
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101st being mobile and light replacing 82nd in "permanent training forward deployment area" i would guess not long in the future there will be a race to "somewhere" will it be Odessa? We'll see i'm thinking NATO would like to keep Kiev/Uman/Odessa line and split country this way however that would be quite an endeavor as over the ground would be too far and wouldn't make it in time (Polish troops in particular). Air movement might be tricky as Russians may decide to start shooting invaders from the West down and that won't fly well at home.
What happens if White and Red Russians :) decide to play hardball going for jugular (Brest/Lutsk/Lvov-Termopil-Zhytomir) cutting Poles off?

In reality the war option as in sticking foot between the door with 101st in Odessa is off the table i guess as Russians made it clear where their red lines are and door will smash foot easily as its too small, light and unsupported force made for airmobile/recon stuff not "keeping big doors open".

Will it be negotiation about line splits where you need mobile troops to enter Napoleon style with full MSM support as in Saving Private Zelensky with under the table agreement of the "new border reality" and proper separation to prevent 101st becoming 404?

There is still the interesting idea west is playing with and that is we detonate a dirty nuke in Ukraine, MSM goes into full frenzy, Russians taste this bad medicine and decide to play ball and start pretending they are just a Gas station again and glorious new world order emerges where we people are all brothers slaves to the elected leaders feudal lords.

Well i guess in 30-60 days we'll know and if 3rd option is on the table cool, enjoy the flashes and if you don't vaporize enjoy the cool summers and nice cold winters, skiing should be good in the aftermath - no lines to worry about.
Wonder what sort of support the 101st has while there "training". I'm concerned the intent is for them to be cannon fodder, or bait to get the Russians to do something. Apparently it's 4700 troops deployed to the region from the 2nd brigade combat team. I don't know the makeups of the brigade combat teams, they didn't have those back when I was with the 101st. I'd like to assume that the term "Brigade combat team" would mean a complete and comprehensive unit that is a mini complete army that includes all support units behind the infantry as well. Someone correct me if i'm wrong. I certainly wouldn't want to be an infantry unit that didn't have all the awesome firepower that supports the infantrymen on the front lines.

Hypothetical scenario, how long would it take to deploy a division of armor to Ukraine from warning op, to wheels up? Or would that be an Opsec restricted answer?

I certainly don't want to see a ww3, and as much as i'd like the idea of shit going south here and a bunch of shitty people going away to the forever box, it wouldn't be good, period. Something tells me my quality of life isn't going to remain where it's at if we come to that here on the home front.

Branden
 
Wonder what sort of support the 101st has while there "training". I'm concerned the intent is for them to be cannon fodder, or bait to get the Russians to do something. Apparently it's 4700 troops deployed to the region from the 2nd brigade combat team. I don't know the makeups of the brigade combat teams, they didn't have those back when I was with the 101st. I'd like to assume that the term "Brigade combat team" would mean a complete and comprehensive unit that is a mini complete army that includes all support units behind the infantry as well. Someone correct me if i'm wrong. I certainly wouldn't want to be an infantry unit that didn't have all the awesome firepower that supports the infantrymen on the front lines.

Hypothetical scenario, how long would it take to deploy a division of armor to Ukraine from warning op, to wheels up? Or would that be an Opsec restricted answer?

I certainly don't want to see a ww3, and as much as i'd like the idea of shit going south here and a bunch of shitty people going away to the forever box, it wouldn't be good, period. Something tells me my quality of life isn't going to remain where it's at if we come to that here on the home front.

Branden
BCTs consist of infantry, mech infantry, artillery and all support personnel.....roughly.

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Biden gets literally lost in the WH garden. Whoever is running the country is who they should be petitioning for a diplomatic solution.


Unfortunately, both Blinken & Nuland, and likely Obama, Soros and whoever else are pulling the real strings, have zero interest in peace.

These same knuckleheads will fold over Taiwan.
 
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Something tells me that the cabal behind this has war gamed many different scenarios and they are happy with any of their predicted outcomes. They are playing the board game of Risk with real lives and they don't care about the minions.
The cabal is isolated and whatever happens on the board doesn't have any effect on them. The one thing that they are hedging is that Putin will not go total thermo nuclear war.
101st being mobile and light replacing 82nd in "permanent training forward deployment area" i would guess not long in the future there will be a race to "somewhere" will it be Odessa? We'll see i'm thinking NATO would like to keep Kiev/Uman/Odessa line and split country this way however that would be quite an endeavor as over the ground would be too far and wouldn't make it in time (Polish troops in particular). Air movement might be tricky as Russians may decide to start shooting invaders from the West down and that won't fly well at home.
What happens if White and Red Russians :) decide to play hardball going for jugular (Brest/Lutsk/Lvov-Termopil-Zhytomir) cutting Poles off?

In reality the war option as in sticking foot between the door with 101st in Odessa is off the table i guess as Russians made it clear where their red lines are and door will smash foot easily as its too small, light and unsupported force made for airmobile/recon stuff not "keeping big doors open".

Will it be negotiation about line splits where you need mobile troops to enter Napoleon style with full MSM support as in Saving Private Zelensky with under the table agreement of the "new border reality" and proper separation to prevent 101st becoming 404?

There is still the interesting idea west is playing with and that is we detonate a dirty nuke in Ukraine, MSM goes into full frenzy, Russians taste this bad medicine and decide to play ball and start pretending they are just a Gas station again and glorious new world order emerges where we people are all brothers slaves to the elected leaders feudal lords.

Well i guess in 30-60 days we'll know and if 3rd option is on the table cool, enjoy the flashes and if you don't vaporize enjoy the cool summers and nice cold winters, skiing should be good in the aftermath - no lines to worry about.
Want to play a game? How about Tic Tac Toe?
 
Wonder what sort of support the 101st has while there "training". I'm concerned the intent is for them to be cannon fodder, or bait to get the Russians to do something. Apparently it's 4700 troops deployed to the region from the 2nd brigade combat team. I don't know the makeups of the brigade combat teams, they didn't have those back when I was with the 101st. I'd like to assume that the term "Brigade combat team" would mean a complete and comprehensive unit that is a mini complete army that includes all support units behind the infantry as well. Someone correct me if i'm wrong. I certainly wouldn't want to be an infantry unit that didn't have all the awesome firepower that supports the infantrymen on the front lines.

Hypothetical scenario, how long would it take to deploy a division of armor to Ukraine from warning op, to wheels up? Or would that be an Opsec restricted answer?

I certainly don't want to see a ww3, and as much as i'd like the idea of shit going south here and a bunch of shitty people going away to the forever box, it wouldn't be good, period. Something tells me my quality of life isn't going to remain where it's at if we come to that here on the home front.

Branden


They'll likely change their tune after the election.
 
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Hypothetical scenario, how long would it take to deploy a division of armor to Ukraine from warning op, to wheels up? Or would that be an Opsec restricted answer?
I think its not so much a matter of opsec but more of a matter not being an embarrassment or worse criminal proceedings against politicians bullshitting their constituency as paper does not mimic the reality - as with Russian gear that was on paper but kind of "AWOL" in reality.

Equipment of 101st was moved quite fast in the last few days over Slovenian territory going to Romania-light in the light infantry you know. Heavies are completely another story especially in a huge country that is Ukraine... Basically a logistics nightmare and you cannot hide it from those seeking to capitalize on armor moving via roads (rail transfer in Ukraine is a no no atm...).

We'll see said the blind to the deaf.
 
This is all a big dirty game for Biden, Schwab, and Obama, for Obama it's personal, its no secret him and Putin hated eachother. For Russia it's existential, and they will not back off. Putin is a motherfucker you don't mess with.

Really none of this makes sense, as its all senseless. The world is closer to decimation then it's probably ever been. We might all get nuked, and there's noting we can do about it.

Fucking insanity!

Only thing I disagree on you with is the Biden part, that guy does not know if he shit himself or not.
 
I think its not so much a matter of opsec but more of a matter not being an embarrassment or worse criminal proceedings against politicians bullshitting their constituency as paper does not mimic the reality - as with Russian gear that was on paper but kind of "AWOL" in reality.

Equipment of 101st was moved quite fast in the last few days over Slovenian territory going to Romania-light in the light infantry you know. Heavies are completely another story especially in a huge country that is Ukraine... Basically a logistics nightmare and you cannot hide it from those seeking to capitalize on armor moving via roads (rail transfer in Ukraine is a no no atm...).

We'll see said the blind to the deaf.
I kinda figured moving armor via rail is probly not going to work. I don't know the rail situation, but it's likely the most efficient way to move a crapload of 68 ton Abrams tanks to the battlelines. Sure, you can strap two into a C-5, but a division of tanks is 429 tanks, and we have 52 C5B's in inventory....and that's assuming everything is 100% battle ready and deployable. The math is easy, but the actual operation isn't, I imagine at least.
I have a brother in law who's a LTC in the Army, a logistics officer. I have many, many questions for him, but I haven't really been able to talk to him much. I know he's involved with logistics planning for getting hardware to Ukraine. He's assuming a battalion command position in Germany next year.

During desert storm, the buildup was about 5 months, and involved about 700K troops. Me thinks that if Pres Poopypants were going to involve the US in a ground operation against Russia, it'd take a while to buildup the forces necessary, and it would be hard to cover up the buildup. I don't think the general public is really interested in a new war against Russia. If anything, doing the proxy war in Ukraine is really the better option. The public supports Ukraine, we send billions to Ukraine, they in turn buy weapons from the military industrial complex, other countries close to the conflict do the same, and public opinion continues to support them because they don't know what's really going on. Russia depletes resources fighting Ukraine, Russians are losing interest in the war, sanctions are damaging them, though they're also hurting the rest of the world. At some point Russia either goes all in, or they collapse like they did in '91. The question becomes.....when do the Nukes fly.

Branden
 
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I kinda figured moving armor via rail is probly not going to work. I don't know the rail situation, but it's likely the most efficient way to move a crapload of 68 ton Abrams tanks to the battlelines. Sure, you can strap two into a C-5, but a division of tanks is 429 tanks, and we have 52 C5B's in inventory....and that's assuming everything is 100% battle ready and deployable. The math is easy, but the actual operation isn't, I imagine at least.
I have a brother in law who's a LTC in the Army, a logistics officer. I have many, many questions for him, but I haven't really been able to talk to him much. I know he's involved with logistics planning for getting hardware to Ukraine. He's assuming a battalion command position in Germany next year.

During desert storm, the buildup was about 5 months, and involved about 700K troops. Me thinks that if Pres Poopypants were going to involve the US in a ground operation against Russia, it'd take a while to buildup the forces necessary, and it would be hard to cover up the buildup. I don't think the general public is really interested in a new war against Russia. If anything, doing the proxy war in Ukraine is really the better option. The public supports Ukraine, we send billions to Ukraine, they in turn buy weapons from the military industrial complex, other countries close to the conflict do the same, and public opinion continues to support them because they don't know what's really going on. Russia depletes resources fighting Ukraine, Russians are losing interest in the war, sanctions are damaging them, though they're also hurting the rest of the world. At some point Russia either goes all in, or they collapse like they did in '91. The question becomes.....when do the Nukes fly.

Branden
If he loses his land bridge (which I think was his objective all along) and the Ukrainians start advancing on Crimea that might be a decision point for nuclear weapon use.
 



The Democrats aren't worried about an escalation of the war in the Ukraine.

Brittney Griner just lost her appeal in the Russian court. They are afraid of upsetting Putin and crushing negotiation efforts to get her (it) back on US soil.

In other words, stop the war to get Griner out of the gulag.

If my theory is in doubt, just look at all the other stupidity that comes out of the Democratic party.
 
If he loses his land bridge (which I think was his objective all along) and the Ukrainians start advancing on Crimea that might be a decision point for nuclear weapon use.
This.

But is Crimea worth it, WMD used on either side. No its not, its fucking stupid.

I think the world powers will use the United States to support a proxy war. The question is how long till the Us public gets tired of it. Personally I think public swing out of favor is already happening. Liberal democrats just wrote memo to open cease fire talks.
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I think, the US public (main stream media)will shift against war before Russia gives in. Especially if in November republican sweep the house and senate the Democrats shift stance... it will suddenly be the evil war mongering Republicans again.
 
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This.

But is Crimea worth it, WMD used on either side. No its not, its fucking stupid.

I think the world powers will use the United States to support a proxy war. The question is how long till the Us public gets tired of it. Personally I think public swing out of favor is already happening. Liberal democrats just wrote memo to open cease fire talks.
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I think, the US public (main stream media)will shift against war before Russia gives in. Especially if in November republican sweep the house and senate the Democrats shift stance... it will suddenly be the evil war mongering Republicans again.
Negotiating is a sign of weakness..... The "Wolf Pack" will smell blood..... "Laws of Nature".....
When I use the term Wolf Pack, that is not just Russia..... At this rate America is quickly becoming the Lone Wolf.
 
Negotiating is a sign of weakness..... The "Wolf Pack" will smell blood..... "Laws of Nature".....
When I use the term Wolf Pack, that is not just Russia..... At this rate America is quickly becoming the Lone Wolf.
Having little electricity is a sign of weakness. Having to beg a nation half way around the world for money to support your war is weakness.

Ukraine as a country is just getting further destroyed every day this war continues. That is weakness.

Discussion to end it is not weakness.
 
Wonder what sort of support the 101st has while there "training". I'm concerned the intent is for them to be cannon fodder, or bait to get the Russians to do something. Apparently it's 4700 troops deployed to the region from the 2nd brigade combat team. I don't know the makeups of the brigade combat teams, they didn't have those back when I was with the 101st. I'd like to assume that the term "Brigade combat team" would mean a complete and comprehensive unit that is a mini complete army that includes all support units behind the infantry as well. Someone correct me if i'm wrong. I certainly wouldn't want to be an infantry unit that didn't have all the awesome firepower that supports the infantrymen on the front lines.

Hypothetical scenario, how long would it take to deploy a division of armor to Ukraine from warning op, to wheels up? Or would that be an Opsec restricted answer?

I certainly don't want to see a ww3, and as much as i'd like the idea of shit going south here and a bunch of shitty people going away to the forever box, it wouldn't be good, period. Something tells me my quality of life isn't going to remain where it's at if we come to that here on the home front.

Branden
The Brigade Combat Team has the usual complement of Infantry Battlions, along with Cav Battalions, Field Artillery, Engineers, Medics, Mortars, Etc. Each can go and take all of it's assets, and set up independently, bringing everything they need. The battalions can also work that way, leveraging a little support from nearby friendlies. The have their own Scout/Sniper sections, and some drone capabilities, Sat comms, etc. many are also Jump trained (although not an"Airborne" unit, anymore, they have plenty of jump missions: Divisional LRRPs (called something else now) and Battalion Scout/Snipers, as well as pathfinders, and others. They also take with them a Ranger element, and assets from 5th SFG. As you surmise, across the Division, it is a scalable "Pocket Army" concept, taking what they need. Other Divisions are doing this, too, it isn't too unique, and all public Information (so I'm not telling Russia what they don't know).
Unfortunately we don't have a real Armor presence. But all of that is supposed to now be REALLY sort of a Leggo-click-a-unit in place. And they do have their own Air lift command, since they focus on rapid movement. It is a light Infantry Division.
 
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Any US / NATO official movement into Ukraine requires air superiority. That means USAF/NATO which means Russia's best SAMS which means uncontrollable escalation.

I could see the lunatics running the show sacrificing the 101st to a tactical nuke as an excuse to go full nukes on Moscow (while they relax in their bunkers)




 
I think its not so much a matter of opsec but more of a matter not being an embarrassment or worse criminal proceedings against politicians bullshitting their constituency as paper does not mimic the reality - as with Russian gear that was on paper but kind of "AWOL" in reality.

Equipment of 101st was moved quite fast in the last few days over Slovenian territory going to Romania-light in the light infantry you know. Heavies are completely another story especially in a huge country that is Ukraine... Basically a logistics nightmare and you cannot hide it from those seeking to capitalize on armor moving via roads (rail transfer in Ukraine is a no no atm...).

We'll see said the blind to the deaf.

It's not that hard to move equipment...

 
Any US / NATO official movement into Ukraine requires air superiority. That means USAF/NATO which means Russia's best SAMS which means uncontrollable escalation.

I could see the lunatics running the show sacrificing the 101st to a tactical nuke as an excuse to go full nukes on Moscow (while they relax in their bunkers)






Make those houses ground zero.
 
Having little electricity is a sign of weakness. Having to beg a nation half way around the world for money to support your war is weakness.

Ukraine as a country is just getting further destroyed every day this war continues. That is weakness.

Discussion to end it is not weakness.
I agree... At this point I am not hearing Ukraine's desire to negotiate. What I am hearing is members of our US Congress talking of negotiating.
 
The COVID "work from home" deal made it normal to see people missing from the office for weeks, if not months. How many C-suiters are running their companies from bunkers in Telluride, Jackson Hole and points further afield? New Zealand is popular with silicon valley types, I hear.
 
The COVID "work from home" deal made it normal to see people missing from the office for weeks, if not months. How many C-suiters are running their companies from bunkers in Telluride, Jackson Hole and points further afield? New Zealand is popular with silicon valley types, I hear.
I should have invested in this company at the onset of WFH
 
They do? That’s news. I don’t think you know what ur talking about.
As of January 2022, New Zealand has some of the strictest COVID-19 restrictions for traveling in the world. Only citizens and holders of residential visas can enter and leave New Zealand.
Had.. should have been obvious.


In terms of vaccination and testing requirements, New Zealand has been among the strictest countries in the world for much of the past two-and-a-bit years. However, now that’s all in the past.
 
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The International Monetary Fund (IMF) on Tuesday warned that Ukraine needs at least $3 billion a month in financial assistance through 2023 as the war with Russia continues but warned that number could jump to as high as $5 billion a month if Russia continues its destructive bombing campaign.
 
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New Zealand has a nazi level restrictions on jabs for travelers.. but, who knows, these silicon valley folks may have been exempt like our politicians?
Agreed
Had.. should have been obvious.



Yeah, that crack head Jacinda Ardern runs the roost there. Amazingly she has a big following despite some of the strictest Covid policies of all the commonwealths, or the world for that matter. New Zealanders just do what they are told, but not the Maori, they really came out in force against her WEF owned ass.

Theres video of the nazi witch smoking meth, why do you think she looks like Skeletors Sister?
 
With the 101st deployed in Romania on the Southwest border of Ukraine (literally a step over), are we just waiting for a green light to go directly kinetic with Russian troops?

I think we already have troops on the ground (in a "training" capacity). Clearly they aren't there just for posturing; this situation just feels bad. When the first American bodies come home...
 
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