That's his point this guy is saying the 40 doesn't work but his example is on a slab.....
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Is the 6.5 Creedmoor too "perfect" of a round for a "Battle Rifle"?
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I'm moving this cluster fuck of a thread to the pit.
It reminds of...
Why not let everyone join in on the douche baggery of this topic...
It reminds of...
Why not let everyone join in on the douche baggery of this topic...
I considered the OP and came up with:
In a SHTF scenario, if you have to shoot youre neighbor and take his food and ammo, or just scavenging for it in a pinch, what are you most likely to find.
-223/556
-308
-762x39
-6.5 CM
I kept the 556 and 308. Nothing wrong with the 762x39, I just prefer the AR to the AK.
If I want to put pretty little holes in paper at a long range in good times, 6.5.
In a SHTF scenario, if you have to shoot youre neighbor and take his food and ammo, or just scavenging for it in a pinch, what are you most likely to find.
-223/556
-308
-762x39
-6.5 CM
I kept the 556 and 308. Nothing wrong with the 762x39, I just prefer the AR to the AK.
If I want to put pretty little holes in paper at a long range in good times, 6.5.
I shot a good size sow with a 100gr speer softpoint 243. Pass through. Ran about 50 yards and died
Shot about a 100 pound boar with a 9mm, 115 xtreme penetrator. Pass through. Ran about 50 yards and died.
Buddy shot a slighly larger boar with a 6.5 Creedmoor. I think it was a 129gr Federal deer season bullet? Used a range finder, ran exactly 50 yards and died. I remember teh entrance was a pencil hole, the exit was about the size of a quarter and there were pieces of lung on the ground behind where it was shot.
I have shot a small doe facing me in the chest, 30-06 165gr HPBT gameking. Ran 30 yards or so and died.
Shot a huge buck with my bow. Pass through. Ran 75? and died.
The only times I have dropped an animal in its tracks were
With the 30-06, head shot on a doe looking at me.
And almost every hog I've shot with a 12 gauge and 00 buckshot, probably around 20 now.
Ok, I'm lying.
My buddy shot the boar with the 6.5.....
And then it tried to mount him
Shot about a 100 pound boar with a 9mm, 115 xtreme penetrator. Pass through. Ran about 50 yards and died.
Buddy shot a slighly larger boar with a 6.5 Creedmoor. I think it was a 129gr Federal deer season bullet? Used a range finder, ran exactly 50 yards and died. I remember teh entrance was a pencil hole, the exit was about the size of a quarter and there were pieces of lung on the ground behind where it was shot.
I have shot a small doe facing me in the chest, 30-06 165gr HPBT gameking. Ran 30 yards or so and died.
Shot a huge buck with my bow. Pass through. Ran 75? and died.
The only times I have dropped an animal in its tracks were
With the 30-06, head shot on a doe looking at me.
And almost every hog I've shot with a 12 gauge and 00 buckshot, probably around 20 now.
Ok, I'm lying.
My buddy shot the boar with the 6.5.....
And then it tried to mount him
I came here to shit post and chew bubblegum...and I'm all out of bubblegum.
I hear 6.5 shooters are good at blowing things by the way...
I hear 6.5 shooters are good at blowing things by the way...
Your existing 3.08 wasn't cutting it? ;-)
Indeed... now this is the Bear Pit!
Sirhr
This movie is cheezy,low budget garbage but every time it comes on I watch it.
I just want to come forward and say I thought I had been posting in the pit.
You pose a great question. All roads lead to where I am. Some of them to where I’m going.
I wondered how long it would take this flaming heap of shit to get moved to the proper venue.
It’s actually pretty good… great writer and director. Cheesy, yes. But some gems in it. Eric Haney was a technical consultant on it. Good premise, too.
So you're saying ima film connesuier and not a dummy for watching it whenever I run across it.....sweet
US SOCOM adopted the 6.5 Creedmoor a few years ago in their M110's. They seem to think the round is plenty to take down bipedal threats...
SOCOM's Bullet points
-Doubles hit probability at 1000yards
-33% increase in effective range
-30% increase in energy on target
-40% decrease in wind effect
-Decreased recoil
30% increase in energy on target is because of retained velocity due to higher BC
SOCOM's Bullet points
-Doubles hit probability at 1000yards
-33% increase in effective range
-30% increase in energy on target
-40% decrease in wind effect
-Decreased recoil
30% increase in energy on target is because of retained velocity due to higher BC
USSOCOM Adopts 6.5 Creedmoor | Soldier Systems Daily
Last Spring, USSOCOM undertook a study of 6.5 family cartridges to determine a path forward for Precision Intermediate Caliber Ammunition. Over the last yea ...
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There have been a few Rifles sent over built by people that post on here in 6.5.US SOCOM adopted the 6.5 Creedmoor a few years ago in their M110's. They seem to think the round is plenty to take down bipedal threats...
SOCOM's Bullet points
-Doubles hit probability at 1000yards
-33% increase in effective range
-30% increase in energy on target
-40% decrease in wind effect
-Decreased recoil
30% increase in energy on target is because of retained velocity due to higher BC
USSOCOM Adopts 6.5 Creedmoor | Soldier Systems Daily
Last Spring, USSOCOM undertook a study of 6.5 family cartridges to determine a path forward for Precision Intermediate Caliber Ammunition. Over the last yea ...soldiersystems.net
Those were bolt from my understanding.
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BallisticsARC is showing 774ft-lb at 1000yards with 185gr federal gold medal bergers.US SOCOM adopted the 6.5 Creedmoor a few years ago in their M110's. They seem to think the round is plenty to take down bipedal threats...
SOCOM's Bullet points
-Doubles hit probability at 1000yards
-33% increase in effective range
-30% increase in energy on target
-40% decrease in wind effect
-Decreased recoil
30% increase in energy on target is because of retained velocity due to higher BC
USSOCOM Adopts 6.5 Creedmoor | Soldier Systems Daily
Last Spring, USSOCOM undertook a study of 6.5 family cartridges to determine a path forward for Precision Intermediate Caliber Ammunition. Over the last yea ...soldiersystems.net
They are stating it vs the 175 and out of a 22in barrel. 185's need 26in barrel range for 744lbs at 1000 or ~2650fps. A 140 out of a 6.5 creed with similar barrel length would make its energy at 1000 ~640ft-lbs. Also that 185's trajectory is going to be a rainbow compared to a flatter shooting 140 and will recoil much more (slower follow up shots). Which leads to the next problem, hit probability. In a dynamic environment where targets are moving and range estimation/speed estimation can be off, the faster 6.5 has more margin for error and a greater hit probability. The 6.5 Creedmoor has plenty of ass to kill at range and has many marked advantage over the 308
What's Wrong With .30 Caliber?
What's Wrong With .30 Caliber? By Bryan Litz ©Copyright, Precision Shooting Magazine Introduction In recent years, long range shooting has evolved in many ways. One of the major trends is towards smaller calibers. Calibers as small as 6mm, and...
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I hear you.They are stating it vs the 175 and out of a 22in barrel. 185's need 26in barrel range for 744lbs at 1000 or ~2650fps. A 140 out of a 6.5 creed with similar barrel length would make its energy at 1000 ~640ft-lbs. Also that 185's trajectory is going to be a rainbow compared to a flatter shooting 140 and will recoil much more (slower follow up shots). Which leads to the next problem, hit probability. In a dynamic environment where targets are moving and range estimation/speed estimation can be off, the faster 6.5 has more margin for error and a greater hit probability. The 6.5 Creedmoor has plenty of ass to kill at range and has many marked advantage over the 308
What's Wrong With .30 Caliber?
What's Wrong With .30 Caliber? By Bryan Litz ©Copyright, Precision Shooting Magazine Introduction In recent years, long range shooting has evolved in many ways. One of the major trends is towards smaller calibers. Calibers as small as 6mm, and...www.longrangehunting.com
After seeing all the lists of wanton waste left behind in astan I hope they never get it. Maybe some British.303s will turn up somewhere.
edit before anyone starts bitching: what would your dad say if you left all your shit out in the rain and it got stolen?
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In the 1920's the plan was to go with .276 Pedersen. Other militaries around the world had zero problems killing people with 6.5mm cartridges, we would not either. The problem is that when targets are hardened or wearing body armor, the lighter the bullet the less damage they are getting.
6.5 Creedmoor was designed to be easy on the barrel for long life and for good performance across the course on a conventional highpower rifle match.
6.5 Creedmoor was designed to be easy on the barrel for long life and for good performance across the course on a conventional highpower rifle match.
That is because when it comes to steel, speed is what kills it. M193 can pretty easily go through a lot of the AR500 armor. That's why in a lot of the videos from the manufacturers, they shoot it with slow stuff like 7.62x39 and slugs.
6.5 creed isn't for men, those typically on the battle field. It might be ok for the new woke transgender group....a battle can will come with complementary tampons
