Is this normal? Customary? Acceptable?

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No two ways about it...seriously crap job.

IMHO this is the equivalent of being taken out, beaten, ass-fucked and left to rot.

How many of the guys here in the middle of a build are now sweating it in case they're also running with the Soda Can Kid?

Should definitley name and shame for the benefit of all.
 
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I don't get it: what's the problem with revealing the name, provided the gunsmith or custom shop actually did that work on that rifle? Isn't truth a complete defense to an accusation of libel?
 
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No one ever wants to put the name of the smith up first off....not sure why because they always let it out about 10-11 pages into the thread...then everybody has to read all the "You should" "I won't" You should asshole" replies....that is all the fun of it!!!

No chances for make ups on total lack of quality control...that's what that is....nobody checked it before it went out the door....either that or they thought the OP was a fucking moron and would never break the rifle down....which is possibly not all the hack's fault!
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(Ribbin ya to get you pissed enough to tell us the name)

Honestly the name will come out eventually so just get it over with....gaurenteed if it was ever so remotly a HIDE smith...this would have been fessed up to and rectified.

Scared about a bad build? Either go down the street and don't pay untill it is right or use the force of the HIDE and use a member.
 
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+100 on this being a hack job. A crown could be a little off or a scope base could need some bedding to relieve stress but that is total crap. Im going to guess it came with instructions to never ever remove the action from the stock or it will void the warranty.

I would give the guy a chance to explain it (I would love to hear the justification) and if it is not corrected immediately on his dime I would go kind of nuts. From the photo is looks like it was pillared and bedded with something. If it was done poorly the first time he could have easily removed it and ran another skim coat. But then again that would have taken at least another hour or so and a day of curing before it could be shipped.
 
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You can all rest easy - it is NOT one of the prominent Hide gunsmiths.

I called the builder and he said the rifle should have never left the shop like that. He was sorting out a bedding issue and then things got crazy and he forgot to rebed the action. He is going to fix it and do it right this time. I have another of his rifles that has no issues. I also have one from GAP that's incredible.

Certainly no excuse for being careless, but it will be made right. Thank you for all the help.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RayDBonz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You can all rest easy - <span style="text-decoration: underline"><span style="font-weight: bold">it is NOT one of the prominent Hide gunsmiths</span></span>.

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RayDBonz! Don't mean to beat up on a dead horse here. BTW, I am glad that your gunsmith is happy to rectify the problem on his "dime". I just want to clarify that the "alleged gunsmith" is NOT a gunsmith from this website, or is he a gunsmith on this website, but NOT a "prominen" one. Thank you for your reply. I just want to be sure that's all.
 
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When I was alot younger I had a "Gunsmith" here in my town put a barreled action into a stock and he was supposed to bed the action. I later took it apart because it shot like shit. I found paper in the trigger guard area instead of bedding material..
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: keydiverfla</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Charmin or Bounty? Couldn't resist </div></div>

Kirkland my man! Kirkland is where its at.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: keydiverfla</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I need to get out more....What the hell is Kirkland may I ask? </div></div>

Costco brand name......


Ease up folks, its not like the 'smith told him to pound salt. Every one of our "revered" gunsmiths in favor on the 'hide is human, and is capable of making a mistake. While it would have been nice to have not made it out of the shop the way it went to Ray, shit happens.

And may I remind you all that the adminstrator of this site is down on bashing people's products or services by name.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RayDBonz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Well, here's what it looked like:

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And here are the aluminum bits:

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I have been told that it's possible the shims were used to help sort out a bedding issue. Once sorted out, they should have been removed and the pillars adjusted or whatever. Perhaps the builder 'forgot'. Maybe after he test fired it and was satisfied he neglected to finish up the job. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt until he gives me reason not to. </div></div>

It's not a beer can!
Why did it take you this long, to learn your own gun?
 
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Kirkland is now a household name in my house...Thanks. And I agree and have said 4 times now, everyone has a bad day if they are willing to step to the plate, let sleep dogs lie. Now the daily vitamins are looking good too
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What else do they have? Beer? Boolits? LOL
 
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[housewife mode: on]They make a wide range of household products and food products too. Great quality at good prices. [/housewife mode: off]
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TCA4570</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

Why did it take you this long, to learn your own gun? </div></div>

Probably because not everyone's comfortable pulling a custom apart right away..........
 
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talk with the guy,let him know that this is unacceptable.and for that kind of money if he did not make it right.we would have to figure out wich one of us was the meanest.take him to court,beat his ass or whatever.just dont let it slide.i am sure that you worked hard for the money to pay this person.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sobrbiker883</div><div class="ubbcode-body">And may I remind you all that the adminstrator of this site is down on bashing people's products or services by name.

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There is a big difference between bashing, and letting truth be known.
 
Re: Is this normal? Customary? Acceptable?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: orkan</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sobrbiker883</div><div class="ubbcode-body">And may I remind you all that the adminstrator of this site is down on bashing people's products or services by name.

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There is a big difference between bashing, and letting truth be known. </div></div>

+1, its not bashing if its true...
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 99HMC4</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: orkan</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sobrbiker883</div><div class="ubbcode-body">And may I remind you all that the adminstrator of this site is down on bashing people's products or services by name.

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There is a big difference between bashing, and letting truth be known. </div></div>

+1, its not bashing if its true... </div></div>

I guess you got a point there....
 
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I know I would want to know so I could stay clear of that builder, unless he came here to address the issue and make it right. Although at this point I would already be burned and would not want a rifle from him anymore regardless if he makes it right or not....
 
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Glass bedding a rifle is not rocket science, nor is pillar bedding. All you gotta do is buy the kits from Brownells and RTFI.
I've done many and would never pretend to be a gunsmith. This is the latest I GBed (270 WCF, Marlin XL, total investment <$800, it was already pillar bedded by Marlin). I freefloated it and GBed the action (it "slopped around" when just set down in stock). Groups went from 1.5" to this:

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