Is this normal? ELDMs
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Are you sure your seater die isn't causing it?
Yea, it’s harder to get a decent picture with them out of the case. You can see the shiny ring on half the bullet. The tips are that far off, like the plastic is mis molded or as if the hole is mis drilled. Last couple boxes of this lot has been like this, that and my load has went to complete shit after 300 rounds so I don’t know. Only other eldm that I have are 75s and they surely are not like this.
Was forced to these from bergers when 6.5 Berger bullets disappeared for the last year. Luckily I have enough bergers now to shoot the last few matches I have this year so these will no longer be getting used.
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It may just be that photo, but it almost looks like the bullets aren't swagged down enough to the right shape/size.
Lesson #1 in reloading, Don't use Hornady Bullets unless you don't care about the bullet either making it to the target before it blows up or random flyers because they are built like shit.
I thought I had learned that already. Berger just needs to start pumping out some 6.5mm bullets. I would have never strayed from the 140 hybrid
I got a bunch of notifications of Berger 130 hybrids from numerous places. I bought several boxes since I had not seen them in kver a year. They're still by far the easiest and most accurate bullet to load develop. I tried the 130 hornady eldm since they were available, they shot mostly like shit, constant random flyers. Bullets are too expensive now to have to sort out the bad ones.
Maybe the 140 Berger's will be distributed soon. For what it's worth, Bullet Central has Sierra 140's in 100ct boxes. They shoot way better than Hornady.
Maybe the 140 Berger's will be distributed soon. For what it's worth, Bullet Central has Sierra 140's in 100ct boxes. They shoot way better than Hornady.
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Hornady claims the lot tested fine and that it’s unlikely the tips play any role. I have other lots and busted a few open and they are normal.
I don’t know how they wouldn’t effect anything. Look at what tipping a bullet does.
Hornady NEVER has any problems or product issues.....just ask Hornady and they'll tell you.
Be thankful you didn't shoot them.
These are well known for coming apart in flight. I have "overspun" them in 6.5 CM. Don't dare try them in 6.5 PRC.
Hornady went from my first choice bullet supplier to last.
Sad.
These are well known for coming apart in flight. I have "overspun" them in 6.5 CM. Don't dare try them in 6.5 PRC.
Hornady went from my first choice bullet supplier to last.
Sad.
Friend of mine has been shooting them in 6.5 PRC for a few years without issue.
I've shot a lot of 140 gr ELD-M out of a 7.5 twist Proof SS barrel averaging right at 2805 and not had any issues.
But I've also seen the vids of them self-destructing in mid-flight and it being reported that in every instance Hornady denies having an issue.
Go figure.
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Didn't Hornady force all their employees to take the jab or else? Along with mandatory masking, it makes for a workforce that could care less about quality.
Definitely not normal, they shouldn't look like that. It almost looks like the jackets aren't fully swaged.
Tell whoever you purchased them from to send you a few new boxes of a different lot or to give you your money back.
Don't listen to the ELDM haters tough, I've shot a lot of them in various weights/calibres and bang for buck they are hard to beat, but I've never shot (or seen) a box that looked like that though.
Tell whoever you purchased them from to send you a few new boxes of a different lot or to give you your money back.
Don't listen to the ELDM haters tough, I've shot a lot of them in various weights/calibres and bang for buck they are hard to beat, but I've never shot (or seen) a box that looked like that though.
Not to pile on here, but... I'm going to pile on.
When I had one of my rifles chambered in 300 WM, I was using ELDMs. I would get exactly the same effect that the OP says - 4 shots in a nice tight group - 1 shot way off - as in WAY THE F%&K OFF. I was convinced it was the polymer tip/quality control of the same. Switched to Bergers and never looked back.
Looking at the OP's pics, it looks to me like the wrong tip was used. I mean... really...
EDIT: Looks like a 6mm tip used on a 6.5 bullet. Hornady has some great gadgets for helping with reloading, but for brass and bullets, the quality blows.
Let me guess: They tell you there was nothing wrong and send you a replacement box.
Hornaday still refuses to admit their bullets blow up despite about a 100 people with videos of it happening.
They are the fucking joke of the precision shooting world.
They are the fucking joke of the precision shooting world.
They tested the bullets and said they shot fine in their rifle. They sent me a free hat. No free bullets.
These were 270 130 gn. GMX that wouldn't shoot better than 2"+ out of my Tikka T-3. I tried about 4 powder combinations, no luck. No more buying GMX for the 270. That tikka shoots almost everything around 1MOA or better.
Barnes shot 1 MOA or under with 130 TSX and 110 TTSX. I've used Barnes ever since in the 270.
I did buy some Midway 30 cal. 150 gr. blems that were Hornady GMX because they were so cheap at the time. I shot them out of my Winchester Mod 70 30/06. They shot fine.
Well Hornady replaced the bullets. They were nice enough to send a couple lots so now I have a bunch different lot 140 eldm.
In the mean time berger 144s kicked more ass than the 140 hybrids. . I don’t think I’ll be putting anything but Berger hybrids through my match gun anymore.
In the mean time berger 144s kicked more ass than the 140 hybrids. . I don’t think I’ll be putting anything but Berger hybrids through my match gun anymore.
True, but the thread topic is ELDM's.
And if you and I know this, why doesn't Hornady.
Dumb
As have I until recently.
What annoys me is any company that claims there is no problem when hundreds of their customers know this not to be true.
Dumb.
I’ve Never had an issue with Hornady, but I did switch to the 140 hybrid a few years ago and that bullet shot accurate as hell with any powder charge. I didn’t want to pay for the bergers this time around and got 500 of the 147’s to try. Hope they work
That's what everyone eventually comes to understand. It's just not worth it to use anything but Berger for long range shooting
I would love to get my hands on Berger 140 Hybrid, but literally nobody has 'em in stock. I've got a few thousand rounds of Hornady ELDM to tide me over. Unfortunately.
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