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I once worked at the Job Corp in McKinney, Texas. Funded by the US Dept of Labor, it is operated by a private contractor.

I was teaching electrical trade. And actually, I was the first instructor they ever had who came from an actual working background of electrical work.

The approved training program was written and compiled by a Marine who never did electrical work. The person in charge of trade teaching had actually worked in construction for a while. He was my supervisor. Later to be replaced by a nigerian who's prior experience was physical education.

A bunch of hoodlums running around. But some of them were really good students who were misunderstood and some of my greatest personal achievements involved making a few of them see their potential to have a better life.

The objective of the company running the campus is to have a near total population of students of 620 for a period of 24 months because they are paid a fee per student per day. When that student's time is almost up, time to hustle and get them out of there.

I ran afoul because the Marine who designed the book decided to watch me teach. I was having a class on how to bend EMT. I never once consulted his book or had them look at it. I physically showed them what to do and these kids were diagnosed as ADHD and Autistic but they can do math. Once student was in an hour, bending 4 point saddles to get around obstructions better than some guys working in the trade for years.

They decided to remodel the buildings to be "green." So, we were running a new circuit through the building for a heat pump. One student ran 60' of EMT in a cramped attic in an hour. That was impressive, you had to be there.

Another one turned out to be a math genius but didn't know it because everyone but me called him stupid. I could see he was actually quicker than most people. He wanted to know how fast he could learn this stuff. I said, don't worry, I can keep up. How fast do you want to go?

You could see an instant change in his demeanor. That meant the world to me.

But yeah, it is essentially a plan to educate and provide a trade of some sort to young people who could lead a life of crime. And a number of times, they are just hoodlums waiting to get out and be criminals.

It can be a shit show but only every day.

Anyway, the one who wrote the electrical program got upset and told them they could lose the accreditation for it. Since electrical trade was the only non-union trade there, they decided to hold me responsible for their miscreants creating a football out of a roll of toilet paper and electrical tape and playing football in the field while I was in the midst of being bossed around by a supervisor while we did the "green" thing.

I would later meet people who thought about sending their kid to Job Corp. Once I explained the whole prison vibe, they decided not to do so.
 
This country is in dire need of good solid trade schools. As a retiree with a good amount of trade experience across the board, I have recently been fortunate to hire a couple different tradesmen who are young, very sharp and knowledgeable and doing well in the trades. These were (maybe) the exception in that they were led into the trade by parents.

My father taught carpentry and cabinetmaking for over 25 years to juniors and seniors that either wanted to or were dumped by high schools. His greatest achievements were the kids he found who were dumped on in life but found a purpose.
 
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Trust the Hide to never disappoint.

I once worked at the Job Corp in McKinney, Texas. Funded by the US Dept of Labor, it is operated by a private contractor.

I was teaching electrical trade. And actually, I was the first instructor they ever had who came from an actual working background of electrical work.

The approved training program was written and compiled by a Marine who never did electrical work. The person in charge of trade teaching had actually worked in construction for a while. He was my supervisor. Later to be replaced by a nigerian who's prior experience was physical education.

A bunch of hoodlums running around. But some of them were really good students who were misunderstood and some of my greatest personal achievements involved making a few of them see their potential to have a better life.

The objective of the company running the campus is to have a near total population of students of 620 for a period of 24 months because they are paid a fee per student per day. When that student's time is almost up, time to hustle and get them out of there.

I ran afoul because the Marine who designed the book decided to watch me teach. I was having a class on how to bend EMT. I never once consulted his book or had them look at it. I physically showed them what to do and these kids were diagnosed as ADHD and Autistic but they can do math. Once student was in an hour, bending 4 point saddles to get around obstructions better than some guys working in the trade for years.

They decided to remodel the buildings to be "green." So, we were running a new circuit through the building for a heat pump. One student ran 60' of EMT in a cramped attic in an hour. That was impressive, you had to be there.

Another one turned out to be a math genius but didn't know it because everyone but me called him stupid. I could see he was actually quicker than most people. He wanted to know how fast he could learn this stuff. I said, don't worry, I can keep up. How fast do you want to go?

You could see an instant change in his demeanor. That meant the world to me.

But yeah, it is essentially a plan to educate and provide a trade of some sort to young people who could lead a life of crime. And a number of times, they are just hoodlums waiting to get out and be criminals.

It can be a shit show but only every day.

Anyway, the one who wrote the electrical program got upset and told them they could lose the accreditation for it. Since electrical trade was the only non-union trade there, they decided to hold me responsible for their miscreants creating a football out of a roll of toilet paper and electrical tape and playing football in the field while I was in the midst of being bossed around by a supervisor while we did the "green" thing.

I would later meet people who thought about sending their kid to Job Corp. Once I explained the whole prison vibe, they decided not to do so.
Hey I’ve worked in those buildings…. Well, worked on some of the chillers and air handlers, bout it. Been prolly 15-16 years ago….. thought I was gonna get to watch a gang fight once out there. We was on the roof watching the whole thing unfold…

Wasn’t the greatest place I worked at. Would prefer not to go back.
 
I wasted my time in trade school.

I paid $25k for school, when I could have been getting paid.

Almost every state has an apprenticeship program for licensed trades. They're generally biased towards the union, but there's no reason to join a union anymore (well, unless you think there will be a pension when you're done but that ponzi scheme is falling off a cliff).

I know a fair bit more about electrical theory than most I've worked with, but it doesn't do a damn bit of good on the job. Without continuing into an engineering level program and job it was a complete waste of time.

We need to quit telling kids to pay for school, and start telling them to go be a laborer in the trades. They can bounce around until they find one they want to stick with, while getting paid.