Looking for anyone with knowledge with the IMI Tavor 16.5" bullpup rifle. Looks like an interesting deal with a overall 26 1/8" length.
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IWI Tavor. Any experience?
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Just picked one up a couple of weeks ago, only put about 100 rounds down it. Its an interesting rifle. One odd thing that I didnt guess is kind of hard to support it on something with that design but, in the end I think it was never intended to fire from a supported position. Seems like a nice cqb setup. Pretty easy to run once you learn the controls. Nice setup with a mounted flashlight. Recoil is very soft in comparison to a DI AR. My wife loves shooting it.
I am looking at one in place of a SBR. With a 16.5" barrel it is 26 1/8" overall so it seems like maybe best of both worlds. Velocity of a 16" in a package the size of a 9" SBR and no registration
I had the chance to finally shoot it the other day and I do like it but...... I have been trained and have used the ar platform and its variants for so long now that when I pick up a bullpup like the tavor is very alien to me. Several of the guys I work with did not like the rifle and stated they would not give it a second chance. If the price were in the 1500 range I personally would pick one up. Something to consider is that you are using totally different ergonomics and if your primary rifle that you are familiar with and use is not already a bullpup then you have to train yourself to get use to it. I think the weapon has a strong case for CQB and urban environments in general. The trigger on it is very heavy but all in all it wasnt the end of the world for me. I really liked the mag release on this rifle and the charging hanlde was also something I liked. Another thing that kinda threw me for a loop is the act of locking the bolt to the rear for purpose of a double feed malfunction, I cant really explain but if you get your hands on one, try to see how you would do that action. All and all its a pretty cool rifle and someday I will own one. I am not a big fan of SBR rifles simply bc of the loss in ballistics from a cartridge that was designed for a longer barrel and a higher velocity. So this rifle makes a strong case for a short package whle still maintaining adequate ballistics. That previous sentence is my opininon, I am not saying SBR's are useless, just they arent for me. Hope this helped alittle bit.
I got to put a magazine through one over the weekend. I like it enough I plan to get one and do a shoot out with my FS2000. The ergos and simplicity of design favor the Tavor, but the FN is truly and very ambidextrous. I would add that on first blush the Tavor is not as picky about mags and ammo as the FN. the FN only does GI mags and gets balky with ammo that isn't full throttle M855.
I don't own one>But I've got an FS2000. I've been "reading the mags", and they're pushing the Tavor. I got "caught up", with the FS2000, the same way. Got one. Went back, to the AR-style, and like it better. Bull pups are hard to clear, at least mine was. Takes 3- 5 min., to pull a "jammed shell" out. Keep a pair of needle nose pliers close. And the FS, isn't "really" that much shorter, than my Rock River, with "collapsible stock". I'm not selling my FS, but I like the AR better.OK, I'm wrong! just took out the Rock River, and it's 32-1/2. in., with the stock "collapsed". The FS, is 29.29.
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I like the looks of the Tavor but I've never handled one. I've shot other bullpups and I'm not a big fan of the design. I'm partial to a regular AR platform but that's just me. I'm sure some folks love em.
I have around 1500 rounds of cheap MFS steel cased ammo through my 18.5 Tavor without a single issue. I am an AR guy myself and I didn't find the learning curve to be that big of a deal. The gun is only slightly longer than my PWS MK107 with the stock extended. These guns are becoming extremely popular here in Canada because of there non restricted status here. ( Well at least till our next election). Anyways, as others have mentioned the gun is definitely more at home in a CQB type role with a Eotech or Aimpoint to keep the weight down. For fun I've mounted my Bushnell ERS for target shooting with an Atlas up front and I usually average around 2-3 moa with that terrible trigger and bulk steel case ammo. I think with a better trigger and some match grade ammo things would tighten up significantly. I really do like the gun but if the AR platform was non restricted in Canada I would NEVER buy one again. For the $3100 they cost us to our door with tax and shipping up here I would definitely rather own a KAC or something in that price range. Just my 2 cents!
Depending on the stock, it is the same length or a tad longer than a MK18. I had one form the bullpup group buy and shot it for a while (to see if I liked over an SBR configuration). In the end I sold the Tavor and am very happy with my 11.5" SBR. For my purposes and uses, an SBR is the better choice. The Tavor was cool and functioned flawlessly, I just prefer an AR.
Unfixed yet, but I am the proud owner of a Tavor. Very small package. It was not placed side by side but very similar in size to my buddies sbr with a 7" barrel with a can on it. Feels good, trigger not bad but I think very usable. I will post more after shooting in a few days. Ergonomics I like. Handles great, controls seem to be easy and solid.
I was wondering about shooting it supported. I'd love to have one but can't afford it at the moment.
I have a 16.5 FDE with an Aimpoint pro on it . Over 2000 rounds without any problems of any kind . I was shooting old brake rotors hung on rope at 100 yards with my buddy Rob on Sunday in the desert north of Black Canyon city. It is so easy to shoot and hit with the Tavor that you just can't miss . I did the spring removal mod ,and the trigger ain't half bad . Other then the high price , and a heavy trigger it is a fantastic rifle. IMHO the price should be around $1100.00 to $1300.00 even in these inflated your dollar ain't worth shit times.
I have one and really like it.
The design fixed a lot of the prior shortcomings that bullpups had. The magazine drops free. It uses AR15 mags. Mag release and bolt release are easily accessible, and mag changes are quick. Trigger is not mushy.
If you spend the time to learn the platform, there isn't much not to like in my opinion.
The design fixed a lot of the prior shortcomings that bullpups had. The magazine drops free. It uses AR15 mags. Mag release and bolt release are easily accessible, and mag changes are quick. Trigger is not mushy.
If you spend the time to learn the platform, there isn't much not to like in my opinion.
I have a 16.5 FDE. Had been waiting years for it to drop.
Two downfalls are the trigger and the plastic flashing on the gun. I can take a razor blade and clean it up, but for a $2K, it shouldnt have a bunch of flashing left over.
Really neat little gun. If you got the cash, grab one.
Two downfalls are the trigger and the plastic flashing on the gun. I can take a razor blade and clean it up, but for a $2K, it shouldnt have a bunch of flashing left over.
Really neat little gun. If you got the cash, grab one.
I love mine! I pulled the little spring at the top of the trigger pac and polished the sear and got the trigger pull down to 7.5lbs without compromising the safety of the firearm. I thought at first that it would replace my ar's but as I put it thru a 3gun match I realized that it wont replace an ar. it surely has its place. it would be good for an entry team or something like that. I will use mine out of a truck on coyotes for the quickness to deploy. just my 2 cents
I have one and I love it. I've got around 1k rounds through mine with ZERO issues. Trigger sucks, but I'm sure someone will come out with a aftermarket one if they don't have one already. Great gun. Runs clean even suppressed.
Easy to take apart and clean. Runs fine dry as well.
Easy to take apart and clean. Runs fine dry as well.
As with any weapon system ,the more you use it the better you get with it . I have shot mine over 2000 rounds and it has been flawless .With the Aimpoint Pro it is now near impossible to miss . The 6 point Israeli grip is strange at first ,but once you get used to it you can make very rapid accurate shots . The trigger sucks even after the trigger mod ,but with the sales takeing off the way they have I expect after market triggers to fix that in the very near future .
