Gunsmithing Jewell Trigger fails to reset

[biglucky]

So I went out to put some rounds over the chrono today to start to true my data and on my fifth round the Jewell trigger in my brand new Surgeon won't reset.

I am at my wits end. One of the gunsmiths from Surgeon said to "tap the tabs on either side of the sear" but I can't see the sear. The trigger is fully enclosed. Am I looking in the wrong place? all I see when I look down from the top like they are telling me is the safety mechanism on the side of the trigger.

This is about as close to instructions for doing anything with this trigger that I can find but it doesn't say anything about troubleshooting failures.. http://www.ada.ru/Guns/remington/Jewell/manual_en.htm

I did a search but didn't see any previous threads.

Thanks for any help y'all can provide.

 

[excaliber]

Re: Jewell Trigger fails to reset

If you take the bolt out of the action, and look at the top of the trigger, that is the sear. When the trigger was installed, sometimes the sides of the trigger housing pinches the sear causing it not to reset. Just tap on the trigger pins in the opposite way they was installed and see if that works. Might need more engagement or more poundage also.

 

[TCBREINIG]

Re: Jewell Trigger fails to reset

If I remember right when I installed my Jewell triggers in my remington there was a set up procedure for the trigger after installation. Might want to look it up on there website and make sure it was adjusted right, not likely coming from Surgeon but could have slipped through the cracks.

 

[TCBREINIG]

Re: Jewell Trigger fails to reset

Sorry duh moment you already have the set up instructions follow them and you will know in a hurry if the sear is not adjusted right.

 

[biglucky]

Re: Jewell Trigger fails to reset

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: excaliber</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If you take the bolt out of the action, and look at the top of the trigger, that is the sear. When the trigger was installed, sometimes the sides of the trigger housing pinches the sear causing it not to reset. Just tap on the trigger pins in the opposite way they was installed and see if that works. Might need more engagement or more poundage also. </div></div>

I didn't install the trigger so I have no idea which way it would have been installed.

Where on this are you talking about? I still can't get it to reset.

 

[excaliber]

Re: Jewell Trigger fails to reset

Take a punch or even a pencil and see if you can push down on the sear. Make sure the sear can move freely up and down. That will be step 1.

 

[Thud]

Re: Jewell Trigger fails to reset

It looks as the sides of the trigger were struck about equal with the "F" and a small amount of metal was pushed out to prevent the sear from "resetting". Need to try to remove the one point on the left side of the trigger or remove trigger and send back to gun builder.

 

[MikeeBooshay]

Re: Jewell Trigger fails to reset

Looks like an AI stock. You usually have to relieve a bit of metal inside the stock, to clear a Jewell with a safety.

Don't use a Dremel - set it up in a bridgeport and do it right.

 

[biglucky]

Re: Jewell Trigger fails to reset

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mikee Booshay</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Looks like an AI stock. You usually have to relieve a bit of metal inside the stock, to clear a Jewell with a safety.

Don't use a Dremel - set it up in a bridgeport and do it right. </div></div>

I am guessing that the guys at Surgeon know that.

 

[biglucky]

Re: Jewell Trigger fails to reset

When y'all keep talking about the Sear are you referring to the "block" on this chart #11 as opposed to the "sear" which is #5?

 

[biglucky]

Re: Jewell Trigger fails to reset

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: excaliber</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Take a punch or even a pencil and see if you can push down on the sear. Make sure the sear can move freely up and down. That will be step 1. </div></div>

No the block/sear/whatever won't move at all.

 

[Sandbogg]

Re: Jewell Trigger fails to reset

I would take the action out of the stock and try the trigger.

Also, I had a run of broken sear tips on one of my Jewell triggers ( caused by pierced primers) that had similar symptoms.

My 2 cents, send the trigger to Jewell and have them check it out.

 

[biglucky]

Re: Jewell Trigger fails to reset

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sandbogg</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I would take the action out of the stock and try the trigger.

Also, I had a run of broken sear tips on one of my Jewell triggers ( caused by pierced primers) that had similar symptoms.

My 2 cents, send the trigger to Jewell and have them check it out. </div></div>

I happen to be driving within 20 miles of Jewell tomorrow, so...

 

[biglucky]

Re: Jewell Trigger fails to reset

On the recommendation of a friend I am dumping the Jewell for a Shilen trigger.

 

[JByrd]

Re: Jewell Trigger fails to reset

Just call them.........simple

 

[biglucky]

Re: Jewell Trigger fails to reset

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: procovert45</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Just call them.........simple </div></div>

I did. They were not super helpful. Surgeon is actually sending me a replacement Jewell but I am just going to move to something that someone I trust tells me works a ton better and isn't so touchy.

 

[The Lawn Ranger]

Re: Jewell Trigger fails to reset

Looks to me like you need more sear engagement. I had a similar problem with my Jewell when I recently had my Surgeon rebarreled. The gunsmith cleaned the trigger workings with lighter fluid (normal procedure) and when I went to shoot it I noticed that when racking the bolt between rounds the firing pin would only lock back every other round. I made adjustments to the sear engagement pin (1/4-1/2 turn) and the problem was gone. Consult your Jewel manual.

 

[biglucky]

Re: Jewell Trigger fails to reset

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: m14er</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Looks to me like you need more sear engagement. I had a similar problem with my Jewell when I recently had my Surgeon rebarreled. The gunsmith cleaned the trigger workings with lighter fluid (normal procedure) and when I went to shoot it I noticed that when racking the bolt between rounds the firing pin would only lock back every other round. I made adjustments to the sear engagement pin (1/4-1/2 turn) and the problem was gone. Consult your Jewel manual. </div></div>

My gun didn't come with any manual.

Is that the "front" or "middle" screw?

 

[The Lawn Ranger]

Re: Jewell Trigger fails to reset

The front screw is sear engagement. You may want to remove the barreled-action from the chassis. It makes life a lot easier.

The manual is a link in your OP

 

[biglucky]

Re: Jewell Trigger fails to reset

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: m14er</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The front screw is sear engagement. You may want to remove the barreled-action from the chassis. It makes life a lot easier.

The manual is a link in your OP </div></div>

Roger that, thanks.