Hi guys,
I just wanted to pass on a word of caution when dealing with JP Enterprise. I will present my situation and would love any ideas or feedback on how best to deal with it.
I live in CA and own many firearms. Over the years I have collected 11 handguns, 3 shotguns (one of which is a 20/28 gauge combo), 2 AR15s, and a few hunting rifles.
About a year ago I started researching a .308 SASS build. I dreamed of taking it on a night hunt, for hog, in the great state of Texas. I wanted to put together every single piece of the rifle myself. I wanted to fully understand the machine. I spent hours and hours trying to decide which parts would be best. Finally, in December or 2011 I ordered a matched upper/lower receiver from Iron Ridge Armory. I posted the ideas I had for the build here on the Hide and got some really great advice from guys like Killshot. Once my rifle is complete I will post the build in its' entirety here.
From the beginning I believed that a JP Enterprise Low Mass Bolt Carrier Group was exactly what I wanted for this build. It made sense that a lower reciprocating mass would reduce recoil/muzzle climb. On January 4, 2012 I ordered the complete BCG from JPE. My plan was to obtain the BCG and send it to Lilja Barrels to have it matched to a M110 barrel. You know, 20" @ 1:11 twist coated black and maybe some fluting.
On Jan. 4th JP Enterprise tells me it would take about 2 weeks to have a low mass BCG sent to me if I hurry up and order it. They informed me that the waiting list was beginning to grow and that I should get on the list now to make the first batch of BCGs. I believed them and ordered a .308 BCG on Jan 4th.
I call JPE on the 16th, thinking I should have a date when my order will ship. Instead, they tell me that there is no way I will get my BCG until after the SHOT Show.
After the Shot Show I called and asked when I would get my BCG. I was told "in a couple of weeks."
Febuary comes, and I call to inquire. This time they apologize and inform me there is a nationwide shortage on BCGs for .308s. I am on the list and will be part of the first batch to get one. A few more weeks...tops!
At this point, I start thinking perhaps I can save time by getting the barrel from JP Enterprise as well. I look up the prices and see they are about the same (a little more than Lilja). I call and speak to John Paul himself. He goes through his shpeal on how great everything he does is and how busy he is with the military. He told me that what he makes is so good that it is considered "jewelery." He ensures me that that if I get the barrel and gas block it won't change the amount of time it takes to get me the finished product.
Feb. 17th I call and enquire about my order. JPE tells me they just finished a batch of BCGs and I did not make it in that batch. It would be another 3 to 4 weeks before my order would be ready.
Here it is March 14th and I get a email saying they shipped my order...but they have shipped the WRONG barrel. I ordered a teflon coated barrel and they ship a stainless steel. They offer to recall the shipment, fix the problem and ask me not to use anymore curse words. They have no idea how long the switch would take. Mind you I am paying top dollar for all this. I never asked for any kind of discount. The barrel, block/tube, and BCG came to $1,050.
Members of the Hide, what would you do???
I just wanted to pass on a word of caution when dealing with JP Enterprise. I will present my situation and would love any ideas or feedback on how best to deal with it.
I live in CA and own many firearms. Over the years I have collected 11 handguns, 3 shotguns (one of which is a 20/28 gauge combo), 2 AR15s, and a few hunting rifles.
About a year ago I started researching a .308 SASS build. I dreamed of taking it on a night hunt, for hog, in the great state of Texas. I wanted to put together every single piece of the rifle myself. I wanted to fully understand the machine. I spent hours and hours trying to decide which parts would be best. Finally, in December or 2011 I ordered a matched upper/lower receiver from Iron Ridge Armory. I posted the ideas I had for the build here on the Hide and got some really great advice from guys like Killshot. Once my rifle is complete I will post the build in its' entirety here.
From the beginning I believed that a JP Enterprise Low Mass Bolt Carrier Group was exactly what I wanted for this build. It made sense that a lower reciprocating mass would reduce recoil/muzzle climb. On January 4, 2012 I ordered the complete BCG from JPE. My plan was to obtain the BCG and send it to Lilja Barrels to have it matched to a M110 barrel. You know, 20" @ 1:11 twist coated black and maybe some fluting.
On Jan. 4th JP Enterprise tells me it would take about 2 weeks to have a low mass BCG sent to me if I hurry up and order it. They informed me that the waiting list was beginning to grow and that I should get on the list now to make the first batch of BCGs. I believed them and ordered a .308 BCG on Jan 4th.
I call JPE on the 16th, thinking I should have a date when my order will ship. Instead, they tell me that there is no way I will get my BCG until after the SHOT Show.
After the Shot Show I called and asked when I would get my BCG. I was told "in a couple of weeks."
Febuary comes, and I call to inquire. This time they apologize and inform me there is a nationwide shortage on BCGs for .308s. I am on the list and will be part of the first batch to get one. A few more weeks...tops!
At this point, I start thinking perhaps I can save time by getting the barrel from JP Enterprise as well. I look up the prices and see they are about the same (a little more than Lilja). I call and speak to John Paul himself. He goes through his shpeal on how great everything he does is and how busy he is with the military. He told me that what he makes is so good that it is considered "jewelery." He ensures me that that if I get the barrel and gas block it won't change the amount of time it takes to get me the finished product.
Feb. 17th I call and enquire about my order. JPE tells me they just finished a batch of BCGs and I did not make it in that batch. It would be another 3 to 4 weeks before my order would be ready.
Here it is March 14th and I get a email saying they shipped my order...but they have shipped the WRONG barrel. I ordered a teflon coated barrel and they ship a stainless steel. They offer to recall the shipment, fix the problem and ask me not to use anymore curse words. They have no idea how long the switch would take. Mind you I am paying top dollar for all this. I never asked for any kind of discount. The barrel, block/tube, and BCG came to $1,050.
Members of the Hide, what would you do???
