Just another Active school shooter

My comment was based on the idea of anti gun activist contriving to prop up random kids to perpetrate these acts without being caught.

Decide for yourself how far you want to look behind the curtain, life is much more hopeful if you take what you are told at face value.
The "anti gunners" are nothing but puppets, most as stupid as they sound.
They are simply pawns being used to clear a few minor pieces, both as a distraction from the main attack as helping soften things up to make it that much easier for the game to go ahead without little annoying road bumps.

If you want to know how improbable things are done, ask yourself how you would do them if all the world was a game and people mattered to you about as much as ants, if you enjoyed being the unseen unknown hand that controls the peasants and it was a high art form to make them wish for their own shackles. Then you can work out from studying the dark parts of humanity, how it can be done.

Just for a little taste, do some good long research into the "Blue Whale Game" and the techniques the sick people behind it use to get otherwise average young teens to kill themselves and cover the evidence, so they can get their jollies off. This is pretty well thought out stuff done by just a smaller group of psychopaths for their own pleasure..... now add money and power... how much more could you do?
 
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So sad to hear about your son. Best of all to him and you all. I wonder how much all the toxic and un natural shit they have dumped into the food and water chain over the last 80 or so years might be contributing to this lack of the blood brain barrier. Its certainly affecting lots of other stuff...the honeybees for one. Ive been reading that round up alone may be having some serious effects...years ago there was DDT. It may take a couple generations for this to start showing up.

Stay strong and find friends to talk with here.
DDT was bull shit and the researchers are so filled with leftist can you believe anything they say? All this bull shit about roundup with none of it proven.
Banning DDT directly resulted in millions of deaths.
 
Kids had way more access to guns when I was a kid than kids do now. Home safes did not exist. Guns were kept in he laundry room or hung on the wall for display and admiration.

Why no mass shootings than?
At my house they were always loaded and ready to rock as well. Nobody ever messed with them until it was time to shoot a varmint or go hunting.
 
We do need to build more mental hospitaals, enough for half the registered democrats and the few other crazy people that aint democrats.

Fell out of fashion decades ago. Mental hospitals were cruel and ineffective. Let everyone out and migrate to halfway houses to ensure a good integration into society.

LMAO....

Society is melting down...and the politicos in charge wonder why? They know why...they could care less.

Fuck them all
 
There is a difference between cutting insecticide rates and intermittent insecticide timing. Cutting rates leads to resistance. Not using it all the time dilutes the bloodlines and lets the resistant insects breed with the non resistant insects. Using different modes of action (use warrior one year and lorsban the next) would be much more effective than using the same insecticide every year.

The only thing worse than overprescribing antibiotics is underprescribing them. Either way, the bugs get a chance to be exposed and to evolve resistance.

So, how is this any different from sporadic use of DDT?

You either always use it as directed, or don't use it at all.

God; please protect me from the idiots out there.

I came within two days of dying from Post-Op (Quadruple Coronary Bypass) MRSA, because some f*cking mental giant with a medical license thought they had a better idea about the proper use of antibiotics. They gave me one week's worth of antibiotics when I should have had three weeks worth. I got to spend one week home after surgery before I had to go back in..., get operated on twice more..., or die.

Consequently, I spent three weeks in an isolated cell in a Cardiac ICU with my sternum propped open, a vacuum dressing on my chest, and 50cc's of Vancomycin being pumped into me via a PIC line twice a day.

Following all that, once they had reconstructed my sternum, I have been unable to sustain the recoil of anything more peppy than a .308.

...and I still take a chance and shoot my Garand occasionally...

About half of the time, I end up with a partially refractured sternum reconstruction. I can hear/feel my chest crunch and crackle whenever I sneeze. There hasn't been any cartilage in my sternum since 2005.

There are books about this microbial/insect control stuff. Read them.

Greg
 
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Well if banning DDT caused the deaths of millions of Turd World peasants then we should ban more stuff and get rid of more. It's them or us.

Interestingly those are the same sentiments shared by the elitist globalists.

It's all very nice to sit safe and well provided for in one of the best countries on earth and dispassionately dismiss the deaths of people you feel are inferior to you.

Try saying that when you are so hungry you can hardly do a full day of work, the children are crying themselves to sleep with hunger, not just that night, but every night and you are desperately trying to keep your new baby alive as they slowly die from insect borne disease.

As much as you look down on those people you feel are inferior to you far away, just remember very powerful elitists in the international halls of power feel the exact same way about you and would be happy to watch you and your family die off in suffering and pain.
 
You all make good points.
Other than organized sports when's the last time you saw kids in a pickup baseball game in a park? Point being things are very different from the past.
Everything's digital or electronic. Look at all the fat kids. For that matter look at all the fat parents. Sorry but planting in front of a computer or gaming system and eating shit food usually makes you pick up a few pounds.
You all already alluded to the prescriptions, lack of values etc.
I believe it was Clint Eastwood that said we've raised a couple generations of pussies.
U.S. Population grew by 100000000 from 1970 until now. Even if 1/2 of 1 percent have some sort of instability then you're looking at 1/2 a million potential problems. Take it to a statistical insignificance; 1/2 percent of 1/2 percent, you still have 2500 potential issues. Point being that in such a large sample size there will always be anomalies. Not making excuses for this piece of crap just trying to get it in perspective for my own head.
I also think if you stop publicizing these sick bastards names and pictures it would cut down on it.
Put a 90 day ban on politicians making speeches relating to incidents with fatalities. Their grandstanding sickens me.
No gun free zones. Teacher carry. Less fuckin Facebook. I'm fine with public hangings if any of them live.
Oh. And fuck Sensationalizing Shepard Smith.
 
We don't need metal detectors at every school, just like we don't need them at airports AS MUCH either. Every steward/stewardess/stewardit gets a taser, as well as random passengers can be carrying them too (CCW style)

Every teacher CAN pack, just the same as every bank teller CAN pack. Don't mean they all have to,,, just could if they wanted to.

There have been HOW MANY interventions of violent events lately, that have been stopped by SOMEONE with a firearm. With a badge, or not. But they actually HAVE been happening lately, just hardly advertised about it at all.

The snapperheads get notoriety by having their names plastered everywhere. What does it take for us here to start a "Really Good Guy List" on the 'Hide so that 'interveners' can get their names and actions 'out there' if the media won't? Once it's on the innerwebz, and the google-spider-thingy's catch it, then shit explodes, right? Isn't that how it works?

And yeah, closing all the mental institutions was a ridiculously stupid thing to do. Time to re-open the puzzle factories, for the sake of the children. (let the tirades begin)
 
Much as I detest beheading because it's the preferred method of the religion of peace, I am leaning much more in that direction as punishment for these shitheads. And no death row---do it as soon as the sentence is passed and pre-empt all other broadcasting to cover it worldwide.
 
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We don't need metal detectors at every school, just like we don't need them at airports AS MUCH either. Every steward/stewardess/stewardit gets a taser, as well as random passengers can be carrying them too (CCW style)

Every teacher CAN pack, just the same as every bank teller CAN pack. Don't mean they all have to,,, just could if they wanted to.

There have been HOW MANY interventions of violent events lately, that have been stopped by SOMEONE with a firearm. With a badge, or not. But they actually HAVE been happening lately, just hardly advertised about it at all.

The snapperheads get notoriety by having their names plastered everywhere. What does it take for us here to start a "Really Good Guy List" on the 'Hide so that 'interveners' can get their names and actions 'out there' if the media won't? Once it's on the innerwebz, and the google-spider-thingy's catch it, then shit explodes, right? Isn't that how it works?

And yeah, closing all the mental institutions was a ridiculously stupid thing to do. Time to re-open the puzzle factories, for the sake of the children. (let the tirades begin)

Stewardit----That's funny right there

AND I agree with everything else in this post
 
Kids had way more access to guns when I was a kid than kids do now. Home safes did not exist. Guns were kept in he laundry room or hung on the wall for display and admiration.

Why no mass shootings than?
Cause there would be severe consequences if we fucked with dads gun and him not around! My dad had every Belgium browning gauge of shotgun in his closet. Also rifles. He told me not to touch em. I didn't cause I knew the consequences. He was not my best friend, but my father! He's my best friend now!
 
What frustrates me most about these mass shootings is that the solution is actually quite simple:

1) Make it illegal, with stiff penalties, for the media to publish the name or image of a mass shooter. Take away the fame and notoriety. Make them as unknown and insignificant as they were in real life. The left will cry that this is unconstitutional, but it seems a narrow and common sense limitation for the public good. Funny how they like to use the same language for the 2nd Amendment, let's turn it back on them.

2) Harden the targets. Arm WILLING school staff.

That's it. That's really all it would take. Take away their ability to take national credit for their actions, and have a few get taken out early before they can accomplish much. This fad would stop.

True evil will always find a way and we will never eliminate it. When the UK banned semi autos the next guy used multiple revolvers. When they banned those the next guy used a double barrel shotgun and a .22 bolt gun, driving around in his taxi to shoot people at multiple scenes to make up for the need to reload.
 
Kids had way more access to guns when I was a kid than kids do now. Home safes did not exist. Guns were kept in he laundry room or hung on the wall for display and admiration.

Why no mass shootings than?

Hell, mine was in the back of my pick up. They told us no more after Columbine. It was more don't ask don't tell.
 
Let me guess, somehow this kid kills some other kids somewhere and now laws will be proposed that directly affect me, but would have had zero affect on the shooter prior to the crime. Am I right?

This is why I cut off the cable. It has come to the point I know what kneejerk reaction the government will have and which rabble-rousers will stir up shit with whoever will listen, why pay to hear it?
 
Whenever I hear a liberal ranting about guns I say, “We need to pass more laws against murder, don’t you agree?” And they are so stupid they all agree.

This case will be interesting considering he used a revolver and shotgun. Watch the language gyrations.
 
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Interestingly those are the same sentiments shared by the elitist globalists.

It's all very nice to sit safe and well provided for in one of the best countries on earth and dispassionately dismiss the deaths of people you feel are inferior to you.

Try saying that when you are so hungry you can hardly do a full day of work, the children are crying themselves to sleep with hunger, not just that night, but every night and you are desperately trying to keep your new baby alive as they slowly die from insect borne disease.

As much as you look down on those people you feel are inferior to you far away, just remember very powerful elitists in the international halls of power feel the exact same way about you and would be happy to watch you and your family die off in suffering and pain.

Those poor third world people are being used as a weapon against us. Money is taken from my family through taxes and costs imbedded in things we need in order to swell their populations beyond what their native lands can sustain with the excess population used to dilute western nations. I don’t feel shame in wanting them all to die in their shithole villages rather than being used as a weapon against me and mine.
 
Money is taken from my family through taxes and costs imbedded in things we need in order to swell their populations beyond what their native lands can sustain with the excess population used to dilute western nations.
Taxes are nothing more than legalized theft an is used as a weapon, against those who strive to do better. Be a FSA type an pink tit will support you all your life with our money. Those types (FSA) has/have proved they can not control their lives or money, yet we allow them to vote, that is insane.
 
Talked to a friends daughter last night who knows people who know shooter. Poor trailer park kid, probably not coddled how we have imagined. Bullied by all including coaches. Was suspended for threatening what just occurred. Was not currently attending school and living in next town, I assume away from family home.
 
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Talked to a friends daughter last night who knows people who know shooter. Poor trailer park kid, probably not coddled how we have imagined. Bullied by all including coaches. Was suspended for threatening what just occurred. Was not currently attending school and living in next town, I assume away from family home.
Ah look, another case where they had advanced warning and no one did shit to prevent it
 
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Ah look, another case where they had advanced warning and no one did shit to prevent it

I was just thinking the same thing. If these facts prove to be true, yet another school administration will have major egg on their face. I think that was what caused Parkland to fizzle out like it did: most Americans realized that authorities were given ample notice/warning signs of impending doom. That doesn’t make it any less sad for the families affected, but it does take the wind out of the “guns are to blame” narrative.

Seems like we as parents (myself included) need to spend less time at the ball field, dance class, piano lessons, etc. and spend more time at PTA meetings letting the school administrations know that we’ve had enough of their politically correct BS. It’s time to treat dickheads like dickheads, problem children like problem children, criminals like criminals, and potential threats like potential threats.
 
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I was just thinking the same thing. If these facts prove to be true, yet another school administration will have major egg on their face. I think that was what caused Parkland to fizzle out like it did: most Americans realized that authorities were given ample notice/warning signs of impending doom. That doesn’t make it any less sad for the families affected, but it does take the wind out of the “guns are to blame” narrative.

Seems like we as parents (myself included) need to spend less time at the ball field, dance class, piano lessons, etc. and spend more time at PTA meetings letting the school administrations know that we’ve had enough of their politically correct BS. It’s time to treat dickheads like dickheads, problem children like problem children, criminals like criminals, and potential threats like potential threats.
I think you got it partially right (see above). I'd phrase it this way though...

"Seems like we as parents (myself included) need to spend less time at the ball field, dance class, piano lessons, etc. and spend more time with our children, one on one, and less time using extra curricular activities as a paid babysitter, where are children are left to chance in what life lessons they are taught."
 
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You are probably right.....I rarely think like that because my wife is a stay at home mother and is always with my kids....takes them to school.....picks them up.....helps them with their homework, etc.

I take for granted that not every family has that opportunity.
 
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making threats is a crime...start treating it like one......if a young adult threatens to shoot up a school, drag him out in handcuffs and let him spend a few nights in jail, try him in the courts, and let them see what prison is like.

they arent "children" at that age......a suspension is essentially saying "there are no consequences for your actions"

and as a parent, if your kid is suspended for making threats to shoot up a school......dont you think, i dunno, maybe make sure they dont have access to a gun?
 
Talked to a friends daughter last night who knows people who know shooter. Poor trailer park kid, probably not coddled how we have imagined. Bullied by all including coaches. Was suspended for threatening what just occurred. Was not currently attending school and living in next town, I assume away from family home.
This is nothing but an observation and analysis. As a kid who got bullied for a time, I will tell you it is one of the worst things you can go through as a child. The stress is on par with the harshest stressors encountered as an adult, with a feeling of being completely alienated and alone. One of the headlines said the kid spared the lives of kids he liked; this is an absolute confirmation that this kid was bullied. And he was also bullied by coaches and probably teachers you said? Motherfuckers they are. So when people are up in arms asking “why?”, I am kind of dumbfounded of their ignorance. When someone is pushed over and over again relentlessly, they are pushed into desperation. Keep going, and thee should be no surprise when someone fucking snaps. Do this to a large enough sample size, and you have yourself a shooter.

So if this kid was making threats with a history of being bullied, I would handicap you have about a good 20% chance that kid is gonna do some shit. Drugs, suicide, runaway, theft, arson, or a shooting. He should have been picked up and put in a hospital.
 
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And let me add something. kids can be fucking scumbags, but that will never change. However, teachers and coaches are another story. They should launch an investigation and if they find that adults were indeed fucking with this kid, they should be held accountable. I'm not talking about just riding the kid, I mean hopping on the bandwagon with the kids bullying. Fuck them
 
This one and the one in Florida were said to be bullied and also said to have been in trouble for threatening the school. Seems like if we could find a trend or indicator, we could come up with a way to head things off. I wonder if this stuff will hit the imaginary news debate.
 
This is nothing but an observation and analysis. As a kid who got bullied for a time, I will tell you it is one of the worst things you can go through as a child. The stress is on par with the harshest stressors encountered as an adult, with a feeling of being completely alienated and alone. One of the headlines said the kid spared the lives of kids he liked; this is an absolute confirmation that this kid was bullied. And he was also bullied by coaches and probably teachers you said? Motherfuckers they are. So when people are up in arms asking “why?”, I am kind of dumbfounded of their ignorance. When someone is pushed over and over again relentlessly, they are pushed into desperation. Keep going, and thee should be no surprise when someone fucking snaps. Do this to a large enough sample size, and you have yourself a shooter.

So if this kid was making threats with a history of being bullied, I would handicap you have about a good 20% chance that kid is gonna do some shit. Drugs, suicide, runaway, theft, arson, or a shooting. He should have been picked up and put in a hospital.
just like that shaved headed dyke from Parkland.....they admitted to repeatedly bullying the shooter........then they wonder why kids lash out.

its because the kids screwed up....and you treating him like shit every day only makes things worse....

99% of the blame belongs on the shooter.....lets face it, lots of kids are bullied and they deal with it.

but that small 1% belongs on everyone asking "why?" or "how could this happen?"......the teachers, the administrators, the counselors, the students, the parents........all either actively participated or turned a blind eye to warning signs that could have prevented this.


you dont have to coddle kids....you just have to treat them with a little bit of respect and human decency....and yes, expose them to failure at a young age, so they know how to cope with it when they get older.
 
just like that shaved headed dyke from Parkland.....they admitted to repeatedly bullying the shooter........then they wonder why kids lash out.
Exactly. Now that evil bitch gets to play victim (even though she didn't even get shot) with no intent other than to further a political career along with that spaghetti arm bobblehead little puke. If you abuse a dog for 4 years, and then it bites someone, is the dog an evil soul while the abusers are righteous?
 
I'm not buying the whole "bullying" narrative - I'm not saying it doesn't happen because I know it does. I'm also not saying it is right - I'm just saying bullying by peers and PE coaches has been going on for a looooooooooong time.

Heck, I was "bullied" if you apply the current definition of bullying. There were times I may have wanted to inflict a lot of pain on some people but I never acted on that impulse or even thought about bringing a gun into school and shooting everyone indiscriminately. There's definitely some other societal shift going on. I suspect it's just a part of the loss of respect for life in society as well as the "realism" seen in movies and video games.
 
I'm not buying the whole "bullying" narrative - I'm not saying it doesn't happen because I know it does. I'm also not saying it is right - I'm just saying bullying by peers and PE coaches has been going on for a looooooooooong time.

Heck, I was "bullied" if you apply the current definition of bullying. There were times I may have wanted to inflict a lot of pain on some people but I never acted on that impulse or even thought about bringing a gun into school and shooting everyone indiscriminately. There's definitely some other societal shift going on. I suspect it's just a part of the loss of respect for life in society as well as the "realism" seen in movies and video games.
 
I'm not buying the whole "bullying" narrative - I'm not saying it doesn't happen because I know it does. I'm also not saying it is right - I'm just saying bullying by peers and PE coaches has been going on for a looooooooooong time.

Heck, I was "bullied" if you apply the current definition of bullying. There were times I may have wanted to inflict a lot of pain on some people but I never acted on that impulse or even thought about bringing a gun into school and shooting everyone indiscriminately. There's definitely some other societal shift going on. I suspect it's just a part of the loss of respect for life in society as well as the "realism" seen in movies and video games.

One of the differences today is that shooting up a school has been presented as a viable option, with a lot of help from our wonderful MSM. Once it was pioneered, they are in a way showing the blueprints of how to do it. I cannot remember the media so heavily involved in any of these occurrences before columbine.
 
Hmmm...makes me think we should bring back "smokers" in school. (For those unaware or not old enough, these were boxing matches in protective gear, to let people aire their grievances with someone in a controlled environment.) Win or lose, people respected people that are willing to confront an antagonist, especially if they know the fight will be fair and controlled. It also usually ended bullying, since once the weaker kid stands up for their selves, if bullied again, other stronger kids have an opportunity to step in and call the bully into a smoker match that won't be so easy to win. IMHO, it helped set a pecking order, but one that was respected.
 
Hmmm...makes me think we should bring back "smokers" in school. (For those unaware or not old enough, these were boxing matches in protective gear, to let people aire their grievances with someone in a controlled environment.) Win or lose, people respected people that are willing to confront an antagonist, especially if they know the fight will be fair and controlled. It also usually ended bullying, since once the weaker kid stands up for their selves, if bullied again, other stronger kids have an opportunity to step in and call the bully into a smoker match that won't be so easy to win. IMHO, it helped set a pecking order, but one that was respected.

But...but...but...OMLG (oh my liberal god) somebody might get hurt!!!

 
One of the differences today is that shooting up a school has been presented as a viable option, with a lot of help from our wonderful MSM. Once it was pioneered, they are in a way showing the blueprints of how to do it. I cannot remember the media so heavily involved in any of these occurrences before columbine.
This
Not everyone will follow the outline. Some will take drugs. Some will commit suicide. Some will suck it up. Some will overcome. Some people, you can only fuck with so much. I’m surprised this isn’t talked about more being how our society loves victimhood so much.
 
Hmmm...makes me think we should bring back "smokers" in school. (For those unaware or not old enough, these were boxing matches in protective gear, to let people aire their grievances with someone in a controlled environment.) Win or lose, people respected people that are willing to confront an antagonist, especially if they know the fight will be fair and controlled. It also usually ended bullying, since once the weaker kid stands up for their selves, if bullied again, other stronger kids have an opportunity to step in and call the bully into a smoker match that won't be so easy to win. IMHO, it helped set a pecking order, but one that was respected.
When was this?
 
Seems like we as parents (myself included) need to spend less time at the ball field, dance class, piano lessons, etc. and spend more time at PTA meetings letting the school administrations know that we’ve had enough of their politically correct BS. It’s time to treat dickheads like dickheads, problem children like problem children, criminals like criminals, and potential threats like potential threats.

I agree and strongly suggest it but you will always be known as THAT GUY. Moreover, depending on where you live, it may also affect your kids' relationship with other kids and teachers.

Ask me how I know
 
....no we dont....

we can solve this instantly.....overnight.....and without any money being spent.

all we have to due is get rid of "gun free zones".......this shit doesnt happen ANYWHERE else......for a reason, these little fucks would get shot and they know it.

right now, they know they have a good 10-15 minutes of unopposed killing.

stop preventing people from being able to defend themselves, and this shit will stop after the next fuck gets his head blown open by a CCing teacher.


Stop using common sense
 
On long island right now, channel 12 news talking to the kids, and they are saying that "guns are the root of the problem, and anyone who doesn't agree is lying." Nice right? So now we finally have an inevitable publicized shooting with a fucking shotgun and a revolver of all things; a complete 180 from the original narrative and they don't miss a beat. Um, I think this shooting has dispelled a few liberal cunt myths.
 
I would like to repeat what has been said before:

The danger of becoming a victim of a mass killer in a school is miniscule, less than the chance of dying from lightning or from a tipping vending machine. Much, much less than the chance of dying in a DUI accident as a teenager.

If we know how to stop these random acts of violence -with a bullet in the head of the assailant- then why are we joining the media chorus asking for "common sense" solutions?

We know why these statistically irrelevant events are peddled ad nauseam in the MSM. To get clicks and views for advertising profits and to push the progressive gun-grabbing agenda.

We are falling like sheeple for the MSM's claim of an epidemic, believe that the sky is falling, and ask a Nanny Government to do something about it (like censoring video games, bypassing due process, etc.).

Crazy, violent acts have been committed for thousands of years and will happen thousands of years after us. There is nothing that "needs to be done right now" even if you are a parent of school children.

To say it in the words of Barry Lopez:



https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/10262.Barry_L_pez
How is one to live a moral and compassionate existence when one is fully aware of the blood, the horror inherent in life, when one finds darkness not only in one’s culture but within oneself? If there is a stage at which an individual life becomes truly adult, it must be when one grasps the irony in its unfolding and accepts responsibility for a life lived in the midst of such paradox. One must live in the middle of contradiction, because if all contradiction were eliminated at once life would collapse. There are simply no answers to some of the great pressing questions. You continue to live them out, making your life a worthy expression of leaning into the light.​
 
On long island right now, channel 12 news talking to the kids, and they are saying that "guns are the root of the problem, and anyone who doesn't agree is lying." Nice right? So now we finally have an inevitable publicized shooting with a fucking shotgun and a revolver of all things; a complete 180 from the original narrative and they don't miss a beat. Um, I think this shooting has dispelled a few liberal cunt myths.

You're absolutely wrong

The original narrative has always been the complete confiscation of firearms. They can't be overt about it. Start with the assault weapons. Use this as an opportunity to show banning AR weapons isn't enough. This "act" buttresses their position. You will see this played out over the next few days culminating with the recommendations that all semi-automatic weapons need to be banned with lots of support in DC.

A disarmament of the citizenry is in progress.
 
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You're absolutely wrong

The original narrative has always been the complete confiscation of firearms. They can't be overt about it. Start with the assault weapons. Use this as an opportunity to show banning AR weapons isn't enough. This "act" buttresses their position. You will see this played out over the next few days culminating with the recommendations that all semi-automatic weapons need to be banned with lots of support in DC.

A disarmament of the citizenry is in progress.

I think you missed my point. I was pretty much stating a truism, which incorrectly makes the assumption we are dealing with logic. That fucker could have gone into that school with a muzzle loader and the call for gun control would be just as strong as would be if he had a mini gun.