on video ftm?
i was going to call creedmore on you, but i guess it isn't that significant at 100 yards.
KAC SR25 challenge!!!
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i was going to call creedmore on you, but i guess it isn't that significant at 100 yards.
Send him a PM @elfster1234
There's no mystery to it, it's just a standard that he came up with and we all agree upon. If you don't wish to participate then don't.
on video ftm?
i was going to call creedmore on you, but i guess it isn't that significant at 100 yards.
No I’m not going to video it. I’ll show the targets, you can believe it or not, I don’t care either way.
no offense meant at all! i would trust you totally, but it is required for the money (i think).
i'm was hoping for vids so i am going to take one for the team and post a miss with my over-priced elitist gun.
so flame away if you must, but please include a video showing your superior shooting and video taking skills.
sorry about the quality
first time trying to record with my cellphone through the spotting scope
i think i was fighting the auto focus on the camera. duh.
cheap tripod was tragic, poa was moving every time i tried to tighten it.
FN SCAR® 20S**
Leupold Mark 5HD 3.6-18x44
Surefire – MB762SSAL/RE brake
Accu-Tac SR-5 G2 bipod
3D ELR rear bag
**Limited Edition, and fuck yeah i shoot it. i don't buy guns as an investment (or rolex watches).
609 yards with 168gr FGMM - 4/5
little gust but maybe should have waited for target to stop swinging.
i was hitting them every time, until i finally tried to take video for the last 5 rounds of fgmm.
I gave up on the bigger tripod and used a little pocket sized tripod sitting on a table and tried again after running out of fgmm.
426 yards with 145gr M80 ball (PPU) - 10/10
not trying for a tight group as much as keeping a steady rate of fire (rapid fire verboten)
i took a couple shots high because i was having a hard time seeing hits after a few shots in the same area through the scope.
one "flyer" low that i assume was me but i wasn't paying enough attention to know what i did on that one.
i need practice following my shots through my scope. will try everything frank suggests next time.
so flame away if you must, but please include a video showing your superior shooting and video taking skills.
sorry about the quality
first time trying to record with my cellphone through the spotting scope
i think i was fighting the auto focus on the camera. duh.
cheap tripod was tragic, poa was moving every time i tried to tighten it.
FN SCAR® 20S**
Leupold Mark 5HD 3.6-18x44
Surefire – MB762SSAL/RE brake
Accu-Tac SR-5 G2 bipod
3D ELR rear bag
**Limited Edition, and fuck yeah i shoot it. i don't buy guns as an investment (or rolex watches).
609 yards with 168gr FGMM - 4/5
little gust but maybe should have waited for target to stop swinging.
i was hitting them every time, until i finally tried to take video for the last 5 rounds of fgmm.
I gave up on the bigger tripod and used a little pocket sized tripod sitting on a table and tried again after running out of fgmm.
426 yards with 145gr M80 ball (PPU) - 10/10
not trying for a tight group as much as keeping a steady rate of fire (rapid fire verboten)
i took a couple shots high because i was having a hard time seeing hits after a few shots in the same area through the scope.
one "flyer" low that i assume was me but i wasn't paying enough attention to know what i did on that one.
i need practice following my shots through my scope. will try everything frank suggests next time.
I'm ordering mine direct
If you can't order direct this would work and he has two left
KAC-Knight's Armament SR-25 6.5 Creedmoor Mod 2 M-Lok Upper Receiver Kit, 22" Barrel
KAC-Knight's Armament SR-25 6.5 Creedmoor PR Mod 2 M-Lok Upper Receiver Kit, 22" Barrel (100223)
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A guy brought a 20" more modern SR25 to one of my courses. I was checking my 1000yd impacts with a 17.6" 6.5 Grendel (8"x4" 6 rounds) and his group with either 175s or 178gr Hornady looked to be 5" (5rds). This was at 6600ft elevation down at North Springs.
He had that barrel dimpled too by whatever shop specializes in dimpling SR25 pipes to look like KAC did it. Sample size of one and all, take it for what it's worth.
He had that barrel dimpled too by whatever shop specializes in dimpling SR25 pipes to look like KAC did it. Sample size of one and all, take it for what it's worth.
Well... it came today. Going out tomorrow morning to shoot some groups
Who bought an SR-25 just to post on a forum? Me thinks you’re projecting. Is that what you do in watch forums? And if you think an SR-25 won’t be worth jack squat in the future, you’re smoking some bad crack rock.
And stop with the Rolex nonsense. Generally Subs, GMTs and Daytonas are the ones that do well, but value is EXTREMELY volatile in the grey market. Overall Rolex holds their value well, but shouldn‘t be looked at as an investment. There are MUCH better investment options than watches.
This is a firearm forum, and you have firearm enthusiast here. No one wants to hear about your bs watch nonsense. Go take that to your watch forum.
FYI, Patek for the win.
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Not many threads will make me read through 9 pages.
All in all, very interesting.
I had no idea there are so many wannabe's out there. I have always assumed people can back up their claims.
I gotta say, if you talk the walk... then back it up to the best of your ability.
No one will look down on anyone trying their best.
And FWIW, we all know 6x5 3/4" groups is a tough thing to do. Lol, if it was easy... we could all do it .
Looking forward to more results... and I now feel like giving it a try with my "Poor"s PSA w/ 6.5CM Criterion barreled upper.
All in all, very interesting.
I had no idea there are so many wannabe's out there. I have always assumed people can back up their claims.
I gotta say, if you talk the walk... then back it up to the best of your ability.
No one will look down on anyone trying their best.
And FWIW, we all know 6x5 3/4" groups is a tough thing to do. Lol, if it was easy... we could all do it .
Looking forward to more results... and I now feel like giving it a try with my "Poor"s PSA w/ 6.5CM Criterion barreled upper.
Not many threads will make me laugh out loud for 9 pages..Like watching a Joe Biden campaign speech from his basement
that' why i posted up some shitty videos. i figured folks might not be afraid to post something if there was already somebody worse.
if i had a KAC and thought i could shoot that good, i would do it on video, but i wouldn't give myself more than 15 seconds for each x5.
i don't want to watch a 1/2hr video to see 30 shots.
Wind sucked today. Target broke in half and my nice pop up blew off into the atmosphere before landing and bending into oblivion. Still got a bunch of 1 moa groups but nothing brag worthy. To top it off, I forgot a mag for my scar, so I couldn’t show how much more awesome they are. Total fail for today.
And I hate New Mexico. A lot.
And I hate New Mexico. A lot.
I don’t mind wind, but the combination of dirt and gear getting trashed today just made it not enjoyable.
I am late seeing this thread. It took me some time to read through all the pages, definitely worth it though, I had some good laughs.
I have an SR25, I will be doing a 6X5, but it's going to take some time. I've been want to work up a new load and this thread is going to make that happen sooner than later. I doubt I will record it, a 6X5 takes some time and nobody wants to watch that.
I talked my buddy with an LWRC REPR in to doing it also.
I have an SR25, I will be doing a 6X5, but it's going to take some time. I've been want to work up a new load and this thread is going to make that happen sooner than later. I doubt I will record it, a 6X5 takes some time and nobody wants to watch that.
I talked my buddy with an LWRC REPR in to doing it also.
I wish there was a centralized place to get real world groups for all the main big bore gassers. SR-25, SCAR, LMT, OBR, LRP-07, GAP-10, etc.... Instead we have to scour the internet for a few reliable sources and take everyone else's word that all of their guns are one hole guns.....
Someone should make a sticky with all of that in it. I would but... well, I'm lazy.
Someone should make a sticky with all of that in it. I would but... well, I'm lazy.
this thread is a good start.
KAC SR25 ECR/M110 or FNH Scar 20s?
Alright guys, Interesting topic (i think). For DMR work (7.62 inside 850M), which of the two is the best? I am considering purchasing one of the two platforms, however am not tied to either brand. The KAC would be around $6000 all kitted out to resemble an M110 while the Scar 20s would be...
www.snipershide.com
I’ve got a spreadsheet going that tracks commercial ammo through all sorts of SR25 from multiple shooters.
I carried a Knights Armament SR25 MK11 MOD O when I worked Iraq for 3 years as a long gunner. Pictured below. I relied on this rifle many times in the desert. I did not like the Leupold trash glass on the issue rifles but made them work. Once home, I dropped my money on an new SR25 Enhanced Rifle with a
Nightforce 4-16X X42MM, Really nice set and shoots great. (pictured below)
Personally, I recommend buying whatever you can afford and gives you confidence. Make your own choice and answer to nobody but yourself. That is what makes America great. Freedom to choose what you like and as you become proficient, you get confidence. You can own a rifle but are you truly proficient with it? That is something you alone have to prioritize and work out a plan to become proficient. Regardless of what you paid for it, if you have not mastered shooting and become confident with your rifle to take it a any situation, its a waste of money.. and could very well waste a life..
The SR25 is a great multiple target, multiple engagement platform. If I'm on a roof in Baghdad, I want a semi auto like the SR25. If I was supporting door-kickers on an in-extremist hostage rescue mission, then I would use a bolt gun. Different tools for the mission. I will shoot tighter groups with my M40A1. But when the hordes are coming over the hill, give me my SR25.
Crosshairs6
Master Sergeant
USMC Retired 0369/8541
Nightforce 4-16X X42MM, Really nice set and shoots great. (pictured below)
Personally, I recommend buying whatever you can afford and gives you confidence. Make your own choice and answer to nobody but yourself. That is what makes America great. Freedom to choose what you like and as you become proficient, you get confidence. You can own a rifle but are you truly proficient with it? That is something you alone have to prioritize and work out a plan to become proficient. Regardless of what you paid for it, if you have not mastered shooting and become confident with your rifle to take it a any situation, its a waste of money.. and could very well waste a life..
The SR25 is a great multiple target, multiple engagement platform. If I'm on a roof in Baghdad, I want a semi auto like the SR25. If I was supporting door-kickers on an in-extremist hostage rescue mission, then I would use a bolt gun. Different tools for the mission. I will shoot tighter groups with my M40A1. But when the hordes are coming over the hill, give me my SR25.
Crosshairs6
Master Sergeant
USMC Retired 0369/8541
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A 1 minute gas gun doesn’t shoot like dogfuck, that’s solid accuracy in the real world. Is more better? Yes, if you can get it without making trades you don’t want to make.
That said my Seekins rifle arrived at the dealer yesterday.
That said my Seekins rifle arrived at the dealer yesterday.
Not sure where or why the hatred for the KAC SR25 is from and not that I even care. What I do know is my Knights SR-25 RAS Match with my 168gr SMK hand-loads has never had trouble printing .5-.75" groups. Scream, cry, rant, rave whatever, fact is it shoots insanely good groups. Bought it just before they announced ending sales to civilian market when they got the military SASS contract. Standing on a soap box yelling they suck and how your DPMS is just as good impresses no one. You sound more like the guy who shows up at a sniper match with Savage 110 telling all of us running a AI platform we wasted our money. People who can afford to drop big $$ on high end rifles don't care what someone else thinks. You didn't buy it, you didn't earn the money, go whine elsewhere.
.658 Average.
SR-25 6.5 Creed 22”
Kahles K318i
Berger 130 AR-H at 2775
Barrel was clean/cold at the start. Neglected to tighten the suppressor collar after the first group, it got a little loose on the 2nd and 3rd groups. Tightened it up and it went back to shooting like it should. If I wouldn’t have neglected to do that it would be closer to .5, which is what is usually does.
How do I claim my $100?
SR-25 6.5 Creed 22”
Kahles K318i
Berger 130 AR-H at 2775
Barrel was clean/cold at the start. Neglected to tighten the suppressor collar after the first group, it got a little loose on the 2nd and 3rd groups. Tightened it up and it went back to shooting like it should. If I wouldn’t have neglected to do that it would be closer to .5, which is what is usually does.
How do I claim my $100?
Good shooting Brother!! And congrats
Shoot me a PM with your info and I'll get your Money Order out to you.
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So uhm, who wants to sell me their ECC or EMC so I can do this f*ing challenge?
I wouldn’t mind taking it to matches to see how many bolt guns I can rape while I’m at it...
I wouldn’t mind taking it to matches to see how many bolt guns I can rape while I’m at it...
I'm not sure about the KAC Large Frame Barrel extensions but if they are proprietary to your bolt just send the old shotout Barrel to whoever you want to make your new barrel and they will cannibalize the extension off your old Barrel for the new one.
The ATF and Joe Biden thank you for this post. My firearms and NFA items were all miraculously lost in the ocean when I went deep sea fishing before Election Day.I don’t shoot a savage at the moment but have before and would again. I own a couple athlons now.
is that how I sound?
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This is a sampling. I work 50-60 hours a week at a high performing occupation. Nobody has ever had to tell me to “do better”. I am not a liberal and I am not a “poor” but I am “blessed”. A man should work hard and want to achieve, but who gave you a healthy body and a strong mind to achieve with?
I can and do shoot whatever I feel like, but I would NEVER shame somebody for bringing the best they can afford to the sport I love. Savage, mossberg, Stoeger, Charles Daly, whatever, let’s just have some fun and hang out.
And Yes, I always take my entire collection of firearms, ammo and NFA items fishing with me.
Mine blew up in my face, so I dont buy them anymore... but they do seem to shoot well out of the box.is there something wrong with a Savage?
An NRA Shooting Sports Journal | Randy Wise Stuns With 2,158-Yard Shot, Sets New ELR World Record
Using a (mostly) factory Savage rifle, Wise went three for three from a cold bore at 2,158 yards. His record-setting load included Lapua brass and Berger 300-grain hybrid bullets.www.ssusa.org
KAC provides full support for all of their products. They will rebarrel it for you at a reasonable cost. Just send it back to them. Mine took a couple weeks.
So a mod1 lpr dimple barreled rifle the same weight as the 14.5” would be perfect!
The mod one LPR was only the most accurate because it had a heavier profile Krieger barrel and was easier to shoot accurately. Even if you had the mod1 barrel dimpled it would not be the same weight as 14.5
From what I understand the only reason the 14.5" is more accurate than the 16" they both utilize the same gas length system and the shorter barrel is obviously more rigid and may have improved barrel harmonics.
True story worse one we ever shot was .75 at 100 with FGMM and best was around .49/.51 all day
If you get one order a super sniper in .308 18” Wilson whisper brake, Wilson whisper titanium can and adjustable gas block tuned from the factory with the can
Shits Lethal damn things like a bolt gun
Just finished going through this thread. Jesus - nine pages of KAC guys whining and running their mouth before one guy actually steps up to take the challenge. Congratulations KimberGuy, that's great shooting. And kudos to BigJake for throwing down this challenge.
(That's not to bash KAC. They make very reliable, well made and soft shooting guns. It just looks like if you're going for accuracy there are better choices.)
And just curious about the video of guy shooting a plate at 400 yards. It's tough to tell because no other objects in video I can use as a frame of reference - but it looks like that plate is about 2'x2'. Always wondered about guys who claim to be able to hit steel plates at will from 400 with their AR's. Never seem to mention talk how big the plates are. I mean, if they're the size of garage doors, that's not all that impressive.
(That's not to bash KAC. They make very reliable, well made and soft shooting guns. It just looks like if you're going for accuracy there are better choices.)
And just curious about the video of guy shooting a plate at 400 yards. It's tough to tell because no other objects in video I can use as a frame of reference - but it looks like that plate is about 2'x2'. Always wondered about guys who claim to be able to hit steel plates at will from 400 with their AR's. Never seem to mention talk how big the plates are. I mean, if they're the size of garage doors, that's not all that impressive.
Im really late to this but it seems this 'individual' needs to prop up his weak ass by continually using insulting terms like 'faggot' rather than stepping up to the plate. In grade school we had a saying..."He who smelt it, dealt it."
Pretty much......
I think at this point we'd all love to know:
-if he ever even tried
-what the results were
-how much money he spent trying but never got close
I've still never seen any hunting photos much less videos from him.....regardless of distance.
Dude is THE definition of Keyboard Warrior
My LWRC CSASS (actual CSASS edition vs REPR MK2) was a 2 MOA gun on a good day. Beautifully built, but didn't run very well. Had to send it in with cycling issues and just got tired of it. Sold it at a huge loss and kept the LMT. I just shot a 6x5 the other day with it, but haven't measured the groups. Most were sub MOA, and I think one might even had been .5
I wish I could afford an SR25, and if the opportunity presents itself I might, but in the meantime, my poverty-KAC is my LMT.
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