Rifle Scopes Kahles or ATACR

[setwork]

Hi folks, I am fairly new to the forum.I am puting togeather a rifle to do long range local shoots and to have fun with. I am at the point of scope purchase and would appreciate some help with a choice. I only have experience with the Vortex HS and Bushnell Tactical Elite high end. I do not want either so have it narrowed to the Kahles K624i 6-24x56 or the Nightforce ATACR. I have no experience with either but have read much from you guys. I plan to move this scope back and forth between a 308 and 223 bolt build. Shoot out to 1000 but mostly between 300 to 800. I know one is a f1 but I will know my distances so I am not sure that is a issue. Thanks for any input.

 

[wvlapua]

Kahles 624i msr-k gets my vote.

 

[Mike]

Kahles is a much superior optic in many ways.

 

[UNREAL HENRY]

The major advantage of "f1" is the ability to hold for wind at any magnification... Not so much for mil ranging.

 

[setwork]

How is Kahles superior?
Mike, I am to be a new member at K&M. Took the LPR class with Shannon a few months ago and learned Much. I would like to do the local matches in the future.

 

[Km22]

If you don't need the magnification, then the 3.5-15x f1 would serve you well. I have 2 of them (.308 and 300 win mag). 25x seems like a lot for a .223. If you do need the magnification, then the BEAST and the Kahles are a better comparison. The ATACR is great for a sfp scope, especially if you will always be shooting at 25x

 

[ccoker]

FYI
I use a Kahles 3-12 on my 308 and shoot out to 1k, even clay pigeons with it.

The glass is that good.

 

[setwork]

Thanks. I have older eyes and enjoyed the higher magnification in the class. I have the lower power on my hunting rig. Which 2 scopes do you have.

 

[Chris@InterstateGuns]

If you're wanting do the dynamic style shooting that goes on at K&M your would be better off with the Kahles. In talking with Jeff last week, we should have some in route for delivery sometime this week in the AMR and MSR-K.

 

[setwork]

Ok, can you pm me some prices?

 

[PatrickChewing]

Kahles get my vote. I love both of my 6-24 MSRs.

 

[Foweis]

Kahles gen2 k624i MSR-K without a doubt, no questions asked!!

 

[unreconstructed]

Kahles.
Nightforce atacr doesn't even belong in the same conversation with Kahles... or any other top shelf German/Austrian/etc. optic

 

[Cobracutter]

Should you buy a Corvette or a chevy impalla?

Two totaly different scopes for different purposes.

Your better off getting two $1500 scopes (such ass the HDMR) than one $3k Khales. switching optics between rifles is for the birds. Its not worth the hassle and you will be constantly rezeroing and wasting ammo.

 

[redneckbmxer24]

I'll always take the FFP unless said scope is a POS. The kahles seem to be solid though from reports but I haven't used one so can't personally really recommend one. The ATACR is a solid scope and NF's reliability is top notch but it's a SFP scope.

My money would go to the kahles between the two and I would feel comfortable spending my money on it based off the feedback I've heard. However I'd still rather have a NF F1 or a Beast.

 

[CSTactical]

I tested the glass in the Nightforce Beast, S&B, and Kahles. I also had 2 other guys look through the glass as well and all of us found it had to tell if one saw better than the rest. I will say the Kahles and Nightforce BEAST do not give up any in clarity, resolution, and brightness to the S&B. We tested the glass at the 1,000yd line at Sacramento Valley Shooting Center. Someone would be hard pressed to say if one was had better than the others. Again I will say I’m impressed with color, contrast, and resolution in them all.

Mike @ CSTACTICAL

 

[7GRT]

Setwork , This topic is brings to mind the saying that ' opinions are like backsides ' in that everyone has one ! Trust me , you will not see anymore with either scope than you will with the other , it's a nonsense . Pick the scope on their features , internal adjustment , adjustment value , FFP or SFP , reticle choice etc to suit your needs .