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You can come down to the center of the universe and demo mine when it arrives for the small fee of teaching me how to use it . I don’t have the background to do a review worth a damn.
I’m a sucker. I saw American made TRG custom with an assembled cost less than the components and I was in. Really looking forward to it. Especially at a <10 lb weight.
Justin, when are you expecting the .223 bolts to be available? Thank you
I am a big 260 fan.
Are we able to order 26" barrels for the 6mmCM?
That seems rediculously long for a UPS delivery. They initially quoted me seven days, then changed it to eight, but actually delivered it in five. I'm betting you get it much sooner then they are saying. Good luck and Merry Christmas.Sadly, UPS has let me down. Quoted me a two week ship time and then came back and said “our bad, it’s actually going to be even longer.” No SOTIC for Christmas here, nor even for New Year’s. That means I won’t get to shoot it on leave...which means I have no idea when I’ll actually get it to the range. On the bright side, I guess I’ll have plenty of time to figure out what height rings to use and whether I want to burn $400 on an ISMS.
We have only 24" in the 6mm.
DJL2 that rifle should be there sooner than 2 weeks I would think, even with the holiday!
Merry Christmas everyone.
Justin
@Massoud any idea on eta for orders made at the deadline?
Any that were fully paid for and that we had FFL's for were ready to ship on Monday the 24th but UPS didn't show for the pick up. We're closed now so they should go out next Monday. Sorry to all that are waiting.
Justin
Had my first range session yesterday. I'll post up some details later today when I have some time.
Till then, quick question; does the sotic firing pin work ok with small primer brass? I used large primer brass yesterday and it shot just fine but want to know if small primer brass is an option.
I’d go for the Spuhr ISMS. I broke down and got one a few months ago for my TRG. Wish I would have done it sooner!
I went that route tonight - called Mile High and ordered the last ST-4701 they had in stock. By my reckoning, 34mm should be more than enough height to clear the bell with slope and the shorty shade on the optic. The ISMS should get me to subsonic range, at least. Honestly, I’d have gone with the hunting rings/base if Spuhr put some slope on them. I could have used the included 20 MOA pic rail, of course...I caved when considering the odd combination of over built and elegant design in the ISMS. I’ll now have fully three pounds of scope and mount riding a 9.5 lb rifle...not the heaviest, but certainly hefty. At some point, I’ll cave a get a bipod for it as well.
Now we wait...or, at least, I do.
Great looking rig!
Great looking rig!
How do you like the spigot mount? I'm thinking of ordering one for mine. Doesn't it really increase the stability?
Did you have to pull the barreled action to install it? Just curious, mine comes in soon and I’ve planned on adding the spigot mount
Did you have to pull the barreled action to install it? Just curious, mine comes in soon and I’ve planned on adding the spigot mount
I guess I was lucky. Only 5 days shipping time for me and that was just before Christmas.Is there an emoji that captures the feeling you experience when you refresh the tracking status of your already delayed UPS shipment only to find out that, instead of being delivered, it's been delayed another day?
First it sat in Boise with no action for two days (after they missed a P/U, costing an additional day).
Understandably, it didn't move on the 25th or 26th.
Then it required seven days to move 2000 mi from Salt Lake to Greensboro.
It arrived yesterday...and it's just gonna sit another day.
Damn it, I KNOW it's the Holiday Season and all...but...I suppose I should be happy about the transparency? At least I know where it is, right?
Well, Angels sang, the heavens parted and I picked it up today. Tomorrow I will be...putting new tires on the Jeep and going to a work social...next week I’ll mostly be jumping out of planes...maybe next weekend I can get to the range. That’ll be, hopefully, getting some chrono data and a “rough” zero. I’ve got an APA Little B* that’ll go on after the initial run - I’ll be using that as a control group. I’ll grab another set of chrono readings at 100 rds in, see how things are going...not really sure on proper interval after that. All this would have been easy, peasy a week or so ago, heh.
Got out to the range for the second time with my SOTIC yesterday. I tried out some hand loads using 140 grain SMKs and varying loads of h4350 from 40.6 to 42.0 grains. I measured the distance to lands off the Hornady factory 140 gr eldm and replicated that on my hand loads. That turned out to be about .030" off the lands. Results were not great. 40.6 did ok at just under 1/2 moa, but the rest were pretty bad; 1 moa at best. My barrel just doesn't seem to like the Sierra 140.
Then I tried some more loads from my AR10. First off was Hornady 130 gr eldm with a couple different charges of vvn550. Again, results were unimpressive. Lastly, I tried 123 gr SMK with 41.6 gr of vvn550 and bingo! 5 shots measuring .277". So, hopefully i have at least one load that will shoot well in both rifles. I only brought 5 rounds to try. I'll verify on my next range session.
I'm going to order a few other 140 grain match bullets to try. Probably Berger hybrids, Hornady eldm and maybe Lapua Scenars and see how they do.
Any one else have any range feedback yet?
The cheek piece has little rubber o-rings on the posts. Once you determine the correct height, just roll the o-rings to that point on the posts and the height is now repeatable whenever you remove and reinstall the cheek piece.UPS has been the gift that keeps on giving for me. By that, I mean that they required 3 weeks to ship a single tire to me so I could swap tires on my Jeep. That consumed my Saturday this week. They were also unable to deliver all the bits and pieces required to get my SOTIC operational prior to last Saturday, so when the tires didn't deliver I was unable to do either, pushing the tire install to this weekend. That's two more weekends of potential shooting lost.
I'm at work at the moment, thinking about my super ghetto 25 yard sight in target, range bag full of ammo, Magnetospeed, and rifle sitting at home. Assuming I get to the range sometime this century, I've got -
Hornady 140 gn American Gunner (cause even high end rifles need "plinking" ammo ;-) )
Hornady 147 gn ELD-M
SIG 140 gn OTM
Federal 130 gn Berger
Local 142 gn SMK
I think that's it for trip #1 when it comes. Plan is to "burn" 140 gn AG getting things dialed to 100 meters or so, grab some chrono data, then do a little inspect/clean, fire some groups to see if there's any obvious preferences, record some more chrono data if a load shows particular promise, throw on the APA brake, shoot some more. I expect I'll be at it for a while - I'll need to bring along another rifle to keep me occupied, probably my 6.8 or 6.5 G.
I played with the trigger adjustments a little - ultimately decided to leave the 1st stage as is and just back the 2nd stage off marginally...more or less as it came for both, really. I'm contemplating marking the cheek piece for consistency, since I need to remove it before removing the bolt. However, my left index finger at the second knuckle seems to be the correct height, so might not need to. The ST-4701 rides about as far forward in the dovetail as I can get away with for proper eye relief. It is difficult to see the bubble level, but perhaps it will prove easier in use/over time. Overall, balance point is at the magazine well...so, shouldn't change at all when loaded.
I do need to grab 140 gn ELD-M...not sure how I left that out.
I gave my 4 y/o son a block of instruction - bolt lift and magazine release are a challenge for him, but he at least understands how it all works.
The cheek piece has little rubber o-rings on the posts. Once you determine the correct height, just roll the o-rings to that point on the posts and the height is now repeatable whenever you remove and reinstall the cheek piece.
By the way, what brand of barrel do you have on yours? Mine is a Brux.
Based on the freebore and distance to lands stamped on on your barrel, it looks like both our barrels were probably cut with the same reamer. By the way, the 8T marking means it's an 8 twist. Good chance that whatever shoots well in mine will also shoot well in yours, and vise versa.Your experience with the mount / scope mirrors mine. I'll at least give the o rings a chance before I go painting things.
6.5 CM, Broughton, 22 in., 1:8 I think... I'll need to double check the rifling.