Looking into Knights Armament SR25 6.5 Creedmoor (.308?) 14.5 to 16” barrel-full time suppressed. Looking for experience with reliability, accuracy, issues, etc. Thanks
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What is different about Tubb spring? Stronger?I am an AR armorer several times over, and I could tell the BCG was running crazy fast with my SiCo Omega. I took a SOTAR class, and Chad had done a lot of work on early SR25s that had issues. He said the easiest upgrade/fix is the Tubb spring. The difference was night and day. It should be standard from the factory, but Knights is all about standard springs.
“Not a gentle giant”? More recoil? What ammo do you find works best?![]()
I also have a 16" PC. My experience has been similar to Monk's, Im still using stock springs. I cant recall ever having a failure with quality ammo.
Not a gentle giant, but 308 gassers generally arent. No time on a 6.5 yet, but a buddy had a 6.5 OBR and that gun was awesome to shoot, so i suspect the 6.5 KAC is the same.
The prices are insane since they became internet nerd flex-guns.
Yes. I am finding that. Lots of the 22” 6.514.5-16” 6.5CM SR25 are not widely available for retail market yet.
Fool’s errand to look for them right now.Yes. I am finding that. Lots of the 22” 6.5
“Not a gentle giant”? More recoil? What ammo do you find works best?
More constant tension with a faster rebound. It slows things down and elongates the operation.What is different about Tubb spring? Stronger?
Yeah, they're tougher to control. Not unmanageable, but it will not forgive sloppy recoil control like an AR15.
I shoot Hornady TAP or Federal GMM almost exclusively.
Yes, everything I have heard is that they have lighter recoil. 6.5 generally has less recoil. X-ring just did a great video on the 22":Thanks. Would assume the 6.5 would be less recoil/more manageable
Thanks. Would assume the 6.5 would be less recoil/more manageable
Ha Ha. Respect!My 65 year old mother shoots my 22" and 18" 6.5 gas gun no problem. She actually shot some decent sized groups.
What makes them your favorite to shoot/pwn? Do you own any bolts?I have 5 sr25s. They are by far my favorite rifles to shoot and own. My pc which is shot regularly is a damn tack driver and probably my favorite rifle I own.
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Kac is the pinnacle of large frame gassers. They did the homework that everyone else just copied.
I have 5 sr25s. They are by far my favorite rifles to shoot and own. My pc which is shot regularly is a damn tack driver and probably my favorite rifle I own.
None of these groups are cherry pickedView attachment 8653698
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Kac is the pinnacle of large frame gassers. They did the homework that everyone else just copied.
What is different about Tubb spring? Stronger?
I am not sure about that barrel length. We provided ammunition for evaluation with the MRGG project and I will tell you that all of the rifles were pretty fantastic. I may miss some but the KAC, Geissele, LaRue, Seekins were all better guns than I am a shooter. All of the rifles I saw were longer barreled than what you are asking about and tuned to the military bid.Looking into Knights Armament SR25 6.5 Creedmoor (.308?) 14.5 to 16” barrel-full time suppressed. Looking for experience with reliability, accuracy, issues, etc. Thanks
I have 5 sr25s. They are by far my favorite rifles to shoot and own. My pc which is shot regularly is a damn tack driver and probably my favorite rifle I own.
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Kac is the pinnacle of large frame gassers. They did the homework that everyone else just copied.
I usually only hand load for bolt guns. I need to but just can’t find the time. It’s hard to when fgmm prints like that though lolView attachment 8653784
You and @KimberGuy we're the only two people to step up, Kimber kept a respectable Average but he used the 22" 6.5CM and Handloads, you used a .308 with Factory FGMM and if it wasn't for that one group 1.15" MOA group it would have been damn close.
Have you done any Load Development for your APC? I've seen some excellent accuracy out of SR25's with IMR 4064 and 175gr SMK's
How do you find the accuracy of the KA SR25s compared to same caliber bolt?I’m admittedly a Kac fanboy. They’ve paved the way for tons of enhancements to the stoner platform. Their rifles always perform like i expect and their customer service is second to none. Something about a large frame Kac just gets me. And oh yeah I own plenty of bolt guns they just don’t do it for me like gassers do.
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So consistently for the KAC you find the .308 FGMM the best > Berger factory?I usually only hand load for bolt guns. I need to but just can’t find the time. It’s hard to when fgmm prints like that though lol
I also shoot an omega on my large frame gasser. My last one (PWS) I went round and round with buffer/spring combinations and even went so far as to turn my own custom buffer. Ended up going to a PWS H3 buffer and a tubbs spring and it lined it right out. Shot better and just much more pleasant to shoot in general.I am an AR armorer several times over, and I could tell the BCG was running crazy fast with my SiCo Omega. I took a SOTAR class, and Chad had done a lot of work on early SR25s that had issues. He said the easiest upgrade/fix is the Tubb spring. The difference was night and day. It should be standard from the factory, but Knights is all about standard springs.
Generally a bolt gun is much easier to shoot. Large frame gasser is another animal to shoot well in my opinion. I mean my apc will shoot .5moa groups consistently but I don’t call it a .5 moa rifle. I’d call most of my bolt rifles legit .5 moa guns. But again much easier to shoot in my opinion.How do you find the accuracy of the KA SR25s compared to same caliber bolt?
How do you find the accuracy of the KA SR25s compared to same caliber bolt?
Generally a bolt gun is much easier to shoot. Large frame gasser is another animal to shoot well in my opinion. I mean my apc will shoot .5moa groups consistently but I don’t call it a .5 moa rifle. I’d call most of my bolt rifles legit .5 moa guns. But again much easier to shoot in my opinion.
Gas gun = fast gun. You can have a really bad day with a 762 SR25, but in my experience, it has more to do with the indian than the arrow.View attachment 8654167View attachment 8654166
I’m admittedly a Kac fanboy. They’ve paved the way for tons of enhancements to the stoner platform. Their rifles always perform like i expect and their customer service is second to none. Something about a large frame Kac just gets me. And oh yeah I own plenty of bolt guns they just don’t do it for me like gassers do.
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This is one of the best videos out there on shorter barrel KAC SR-25 6.5CM performance. He compares both 16” and 22” KAC SR-25s chambered in 6.5CM from 100yds out to 300, 500, 600, 940, and 1250yds.
The color combos on the 16” are sick.
I'm naturally impatient with a gas gun (a personal problem, I know), so it's probably the same cadence as a bolt gun. Most of the time, it involves shooting and then going through the fundamental checklist, then shooting again. In my experience, unlike a bolt gun, where you can engage the bolt after breaking the shot, on the SR25, you need to wait through the unlock process before shooting again.Absolutely. Those are great groups. Im curious what cadence are you firing at? Quicker than you could with a bolt gun or are you taking your time? Either way, excellent shooting.
Wow. Great groups - especially from the 168 GMMGas gun = fast gun. You can have a really bad day with a 762 SR25, but in my experience, it has more to do with the indian than the arrow.View attachment 8654167View attachment 8654166
Thanks - good advice - patienceI'm naturally impatient with a gas gun (a personal problem, I know), so it's probably the same cadence as a bolt gun. Most of the time, it involves shooting and then going through the fundamental checklist, then shooting again. In my experience, unlike a bolt gun, where you can engage the bolt after breaking the shot, on the SR25, you need to wait through the unlock process before shooting again.
I'm naturally impatient with a gas gun (a personal problem, I know), so it's probably the same cadence as a bolt gun. Most of the time, it involves shooting and then going through the fundamental checklist, then shooting again. In my experience, unlike a bolt gun, where you can engage the bolt after breaking the shot, on the SR25, you need to wait through the unlock process before shooting again.
I'm naturally impatient with a gas gun (a personal problem, I know), so it's probably the same cadence as a bolt gun. Most of the time, it involves shooting and then going through the fundamental checklist, then shooting again. In my experience, unlike a bolt gun, where you can engage the bolt after breaking the shot, on the SR25, you need to wait through the unlock process before shooting again.
Wow. Great groups - especially from the 168 GMM