Rifle Scopes Kokopelli Accurizing Kits - Who has one in 34mm?

[jasonk]

Are they worth it? Roughly $135 shipped I'm guessing.

Seems like a small price to pay for a little extra insurance on a $2,500 to $3,500 scope but I hate to spend $135 to use something for 10 minutes and put it away for the next year.

Trying to decide if I want to pull the trigger and get one.

Thanks for your input.
J

 

[OFIS]

Re: Kokopelli Accurizing Kits - Who has one in 34m

likewise...

 

[prplhaz72]

Re: Kokopelli Accurizing Kits - Who has one in 34m

I have one in 35mm and 30mm. IMO it is nice to be able to know everything is square and aligned correctly. If your receiver or base or rings are messed up it lets you know in a hurry. Could easily save some scopes from being damaged.

 

[mac37]

Re: Kokopelli Accurizing Kits - Who has one in 34m

Without a doubt you need this. It really isn't much more that the Midway equivalent(that's made in China)
Now, when can I borrow it?

 

[jasonk]

Re: Kokopelli Accurizing Kits - Who has one in 34m

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mac37</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Without a doubt you need this. It really isn't much more that the Midway equivalent(that's made in China)
Now, when can I borrow it?</div></div>

I thought there might be a reason you liked the idea.

 

[treebasher]

Re: Kokopelli Accurizing Kits - Who has one in 34m

I have the 1" and 30mm kits and have used them countless times. After mashing a Nightforce tube with some misaligned rings I decided that $135 really isn't that much to pay...

 

[eric long]

Re: Kokopelli Accurizing Kits - Who has one in 34m

I have the 34. My rings checked out perfectly so I did not lap them. He is a really nice guy, I called him. If you pay shipping I'd loan it to you.

 

[Platypus]

Re: Kokopelli Accurizing Kits - Who has one in 34m

I see these as a great tool to indicate your rings in reference to the receiver, base, and the rings to each other. The compounding issue here is that if you identify misalighment then you must deal with the problem. What will you invest to get the tools and rubbing compound to lap the rings, what if you have a base ring interface issue or the mating between base and receiver? Another concern is with all this you would also need to indicate the bars with the bore to insure that the scope and bore are aligned with each other. Where do we draw the line at acceptable tolerances? The amount of money spent for glass has dictated that quality rings and bases be built to support this glass. With all that being said and the initial cost of rings and bases should we have to be concerned with all this? By virtue of the amount of money spent on glass the answer has to be yes. I personally have not seen an issue with the rings and bases I have gotten from Badger and have not lapped anything. My other concern about the lapping is the loss of protection to metal parts by removing the finish and creating an area that is not easily serviced to keep rust from developing. On top of all this how often do the majority of shooters change out scopes on their rifles? Here is a proposal for someone to maybe generate some income: put together an accurizing kit that contains everything you would need to set your scope up and offer that kit for rental at a cost that would cause shooters to find value in doing this. This could be a great opportunity for large optics companies or distributors to offer rental with the purchase of a scope. Just some food for thought, what do you hard chargers think?

Danel

 

[thebolt]

Re: Kokopelli Accurizing Kits - Who has one in 34mm?

I have 1", 30mm and 35mm. I have used them a fair amount and am very happy with them. These are a quality product and are worth more than what they cost.

 

[Magnumdood]

Re: Kokopelli Accurizing Kits - Who has one in 34m

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: platypus</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> My other concern about the lapping is the loss of protection to metal parts by removing the finish and creating an area that is not easily serviced to keep rust from developing. Danel </div></div>
Near Mfg makes a uni-mount for tactical applications. He calls it his Alpha series, and they are works of art. I guess you could bend one if you bolted it to a really bowed base, but with a little care in bedding your base, the Alpha mount will insure your expensive optic is not bent, nor is the finish damaged. I pulled a scope out of a 34mm Alpha mount after 500+ rounds, and there was not even a ring shadow. If you want to protect your scopes, go to <span style="color: #3333FF">Near Mfg. Scope Bases</span>. He makes the Alpha mount in a hunting model too.

 

[prplhaz72]

Re: Kokopelli Accurizing Kits - Who has one in 34m

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: platypus</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I see these as a great tool to indicate your rings in reference to the receiver, base, and the rings to each other. The compounding issue here is that if you identify misalighment then you must deal with the problem. What will you invest to get the tools and rubbing compound to lap the rings, what if you have a base ring interface issue or the mating between base and receiver? Another concern is with all this you would also need to indicate the bars with the bore to insure that the scope and bore are aligned with each other. Where do we draw the line at acceptable tolerances? The amount of money spent for glass has dictated that quality rings and bases be built to support this glass. With all that being said and the initial cost of rings and bases should we have to be concerned with all this? By virtue of the amount of money spent on glass the answer has to be yes. I personally have not seen an issue with the rings and bases I have gotten from Badger and have not lapped anything. My other concern about the lapping is the loss of protection to metal parts by removing the finish and creating an area that is not easily serviced to keep rust from developing. On top of all this how often do the majority of shooters change out scopes on their rifles? Here is a proposal for someone to maybe generate some income: put together an accurizing kit that contains everything you would need to set your scope up and offer that kit for rental at a cost that would cause shooters to find value in doing this. This could be a great opportunity for large optics companies or distributors to offer rental with the purchase of a scope. Just some food for thought, what do you hard chargers think?

Danel </div></div>

It is not so much about lapping the rings as it is about the possibility that the rifle receiver is out of alignment itself. The rings and base may be fine, but if the front or rear of the receiver is out of spec then once you tighten down the screws everything else is out of spec. The Kokopelli kit will tell you that. In my eyes that is good info to have.