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Go find the posts. They're on here and I didn't delete or alter them. I wanted a CTR Bravo, and I was told it wasn't happening anytime soon, so I found another option. Lots of us like the CTR mags, but KRG didn't have any interest in catering to that crowd, so I bought a product from a company who did have interest in making a product we wanted. CTR mags allow a longer OAL than AICS, so for long-throated Tikka factory barrels, moving to AICS is an issue. I'm sorry that you didn't like my comments, but they were a direct response to someone who said they wanted a Bravo CTR but were considering a T4A, which was literally the exact same situation I was in. I made the decision months ago and I was giving a follow-up report on how I felt after my decision. I'm pretty sure that's one of the primary functions of an online forum - to share experiences. I feel like I got a far superior product for a negligible difference in price, and I also didn't have to deal with switching to what (for me) is an inferior magazine system in the process. Win-win.
All in all, KRG makes a good product for a fair price and is obviously selling a ton of stocks, but you can't get butt-hurt when you make a business decision that you don't want to cater to a certain crowd and those people take their business elsewhere. That's a bad combination of arrogance and ignorance.
I do not doubt someone told you it wasn't going to happen anytime soon, that is not what was ridiculous. We were buried all last year. What I was referencing was your comparison to a Manners T4.
-You can tell by looking the ergonomics are going to be similar, they are both based around the Mcmillan A series shape.
-A T3 Bravo is $389
-Mag is another $50-75
That gets you a modular stock with a full length aluminum backbone, tool-less cheekpiece height, spacer LOP (spacers included), plus MLOK, QD, and KRG pattern mount points, magazine ready, NV mount ready, Spigot mount ready, Arca Rail ready, additional forends available, I could go on.
A Manners T4:
-$655 with adjustable cheekpiece height ($515 without), comes inletted
-Fixed butt/LOP
-pillars included for the epoxy bedding that is either a requirement or not totally necessary depending on who you ask.
-No bottom metal, no mag (both of those you get with the CTR so you save $ there)
-No mini chassis or aluminum backbone for that price
-MPA rail and NV mount are options, must be cut into the stock, does have optional LOP adjustment feature that can be added, limited other items.
I could get really deep into the weeds on the comparison and look at a cost of bringing the Manners up to a chassis standard for features but I won't. They are not directly comparable. You get so much more in a chassis, any chassis, not just KRG.
I know Tom and I like him, there's a definite place for the fiberglass/carbon fiber stocks. It's a different market. That's why we don't put up a full comparison list on our website. But to say that the cost is comparable and the ergo's aren't even remotely close is ridiculous. The cost is similar if you're looking at a logarithmic scale but a few hundred dollars in this situation is nearly the cost of another Bravo chassis or a lot of ammo.
Justin
