KRG Bravo for cz455 ?!

[PlinkIt]

Ok I know I'm forgetful as can be, but when did this come out?...

https://kineticresearchgroup.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/18B-m01.jpg

 

[PlinkIt]

Interested in any opinions available.

Thanks

https://kineticresearchgroup.com/product/180-bravo-chassis/

 

[MDrimfirerookie]

son of a....

looks like this is the reason the cz chassis had disappeared from the site before.

sneaky sneaky, now to find a way to sneak this into the house without the wife knowing about it

 

[JayB]

son of a....

looks like this is the reason the cz chassis had disappeared from the site before.

sneaky sneaky, now to find a way to sneak this into the house without the wife knowing about it

Ship to work?

 

[MDrimfirerookie]

Ship to work?

in theory yes but she watches the safe like a hawk because i have what some people call a "spending problem"

 

[dghboy315]

Oh man! When did this come out? I’ve been waiting for it.

 

[MDrimfirerookie]

Interested in any opinions available.

Thanks

https://kineticresearchgroup.com/product/180-bravo-chassis/

from reading the description it looks like they updated their old 180 xray chassis and added the less expensive option of the bravo buttstock. it also looks like you can get the xray buttstock or the whiskey 3 fixed / folder buttstock as well. they went big!

in terms of actual use, can't comment directly as i missed out on them before they discontinued earlier this year. i've heard good things about them though. the one draw back is that the magwell is still acis sized while using the factory cz mags which i'm sure makes for fun times when on the clock

 

[MDrimfirerookie]

Oh man! When did this come out? I’ve been waiting for it.

Dave - you and me both. would be fun to have it for the match on the 23rd...

 

[dghboy315]

Dave - you and me both. would be fun to have it for the match on the 23rd...

Yea, I’m fighting the pull....

 

[Frankr]

Yea, I’m fighting the pull....

You and me both.

Dang, just when I was going to put mine up to find the Tikka T1x they come out with this......... stupid decisions.

 

[308pirate]

from reading the description it looks like they updated their old 180 xray chassis and added the less expensive option of the bravo buttstock. it also looks like you can get the xray buttstock or the whiskey 3 fixed / folder buttstock as well. they went big!

The 180-Xray chassis always had the option of being purchased with either the W-3 fixed or folding buttstocks. The addition of the Bravo rear end is the only new thing.

it sucks that they discontinued the Howa inlet, but I already got mine and Brownells still has some.

 

[308pirate]

Ok I know I'm forgetful as can be, but when did this come out?...

https://kineticresearchgroup.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/18B-m01.jpg

It's a 180-xray chassis with a Bravo rear end. The 180-xray has been available for the 455 for several years now. The addition of the Bravo ass end is the only new thing.

You can still buy that with a n Xray, W-3, or W-3 folder rear end, as always.

 

[MDrimfirerookie]

The 180-Xray chassis always had the option of being purchased with either the W-3 fixed or folding buttstocks. The addition of the Bravo rear end is the only new thing.

it sucks that they discontinued the Howa inlet, but I already got mine and Brownells still has some.

yeah i feel the same way about the savage bottom bolt release. can't find that one any where

 

[Stickshift]

I'm hoping for a SAKO green version, personally, but I'm definitely buying one. I emailed KRG a few months back asking if you could put the Bravo back end on a 180 X-Ray and they said the back end would slip right on. I'm glad that's now an option from the factory.

 

[PlinkIt]

Well I couldn't stand it, I ordered one...

I looked the web over for someone posting about one, but I really found nothing much about it... So either my search skills suck, or nobody is using them yet, or just nobody is posting about it yet?..

Had a new 455 and a few parts sitting in the box for several months now trying to catch an FDE manners being sold...

Guess it's going to be an FDE Bravo now!

I'll post what I see when it gets here, and I try putting it all together

 

[ilmonster]

Hoping the KRG gods also come up with a Bravo chasis for an Anschutz 1416 action.... Please...

 

[MDrimfirerookie]

Well I couldn't stand it, I ordered one...

I looked the web over for someone posting about one, but I really found nothing much about it... So either my search skills suck, or nobody is using them yet, or just nobody is posting about it yet?..

Had a new 455 and a few parts sitting in the box for several months now trying to catch an FDE manners being sold...

Guess it's going to be an FDE Bravo now!

I'll post what I see when it gets here, and I try putting it all together

looking forward to your report

 

[SLG]

I wondered where the 180 went...

Too bad I have a 452, this would be a sweet upgrade.

 

[308pirate]

Too bad I have a 452

Same here......

 

[PlinkIt]

Initial impressions are GOOD!

I'll update when I have time to get the FLY trigger unit into the rifle. Looks like there is a mile of room in the trigger area, so I'm not expecting any problems.... Fingers crossed

 

[PlinkIt]

5rd mags really fit up into the chassis, might have to check out the larger ones

Looks like your be able to run the 5rd mag and set it on top of a flat surface nicely though

Maybe barricade tops or something

 

[Dooby]

any flex in the forend using bipod? i thought it was closer to the Bravo and Whiskey for centerfire. looks like the back-bone ends halfway up the forend. Would the Aluminum forend/handguard fit on this?

i read somewhere that this stock has alot of flex. Was gonna upgrade, but the Boyd's stock i have is pretty stiff.

 

[PlinkIt]

any flex in the forend using bipod? i thought it was closer to the Bravo and Whiskey for centerfire. looks like the back-bone ends halfway up the forend. Would the Aluminum forend/handguard fit on this?

i read somewhere that this stock has alot of flex. Was gonna upgrade, but the Boyd's stock i have is pretty stiff.

Well i haven't shot it, but I'll try to explain everything i see messing around house with it.

Aluminum ends where you see circled in the picture

BUT the way they did the forend is a solid box frame design. I'm a 220lb 20yr maintenance worker and I can't twist the forend just using hands on front and rear in any way.

Now if I use leverage... Grab barrel and apply force directly to the side of the forend I can get it to move enough that I can see it. Only way I can see this making a difference while behind the rifle is if you were to deeply wedge bipod into something and apply a ridiculous amount of pressure to basically torque the forend into a banana... Why anyone would do such a thing I have not a clue...

I took it out on the deck and got behind it as if shooting from barricaded positions. applied pressure to a single bipod leg and I can't see enough flex to amount to anything with any form of pressure I would apply while shooting normally.... Maybe if I was going to put this on a "go to hell" rifle I would rethink polymer anything, but I can't see where anything with this chassisis going to limit you in most cases.

 

[bunsen27]

@PlinkIt Looks very nice! If you haven't ordered it yet you might want to consider the DIP extended mag release. That 5-rounder looks like a tight fit that may not be easy to get out.:

http://www.diproductsinc.com/Detail.aspx?PROD=1173629&CAT=3600

 

[PlinkIt]

@bunsen27 thanks for the link, might have to consider it. There is a good deal of room in the front of the mag area that is recessed, thanks to that my finger seems to get at the release fairly well. I'll have to see how awkward it is when I actually get to shooting it though.

Biggest problem is getting my hand on the mag itself while pushing the release... With how close the sides are to the mag I'm 100% going to need to buy 10rd mags in order to be able to use my thumb and middle finger on sides to pull mag out, while using pointer finger on release. The way it is now with 5rd mags I'm basically using my pointer and thumb on front and back while trying to push release with pointer as well...

Especially for guys doing rimfire competing, I believe the 10rd mags are going to be a must have

 

[308pirate]

any flex in the forend using bipod?

I can answer that.

I have two 180-Xrays (which is what this one is) with Howa centerfires on them. While there is some very minor amount of flex if you try to squeeze the barrel and forend at the same time, it does not affect accuracy whatsoever.

The forend does not touch the barrel no matter how hard I load either an Atlas or Harris on grass or against the mat, it does not touch no matter how hard I sling up (and I know how to sling up HARD, since highpower is what I used to shoot), and it does not touch no matter how hard I push into or down onto any barricade.

I was very skeptical about this before I bought, but got one anyway due to Brownells money back guarantee. Well, it didn't go back and I bought a second one.

ETA: No, you can't extend the aluminum chassis forward or adapt any other forend from other KRG designs to it. It's not that big of a deal and doesn't bother me at all.

Buy in confidence. KRG knows that they are doing.

 

[MDrimfirerookie]

have any more of these made it into the wild yet?

 

[BenY 2013]

Anyone want to buy my PDC chassis so I can order one of these? Looks like a fantastic option!

Ben

 

[Praeger]

I can answer that.

I have two 180-Xrays (which is what this one is) with Howa centerfires on them. While there is some very minor amount of flex if you try to squeeze the barrel and forend at the same time, it does not affect accuracy whatsoever.

The forend does not touch the barrel no matter how hard I load either an Atlas or Harris on grass or against the mat, it does not touch no matter how hard I sling up (and I know how to sling up HARD, since highpower is what I used to shoot), and it does not touch no matter how hard I push into or down onto any barricade.

I was very skeptical about this before I bought, but got one anyway due to Brownells money back guarantee. Well, it didn't go back and I bought a second one.

ETA: No, you can't extend the aluminum chassis forward or adapt any other forend from other KRG designs to it. It's not that big of a deal and doesn't bother me at all.

Buy in confidence. KRG knows that they are doing.

Seconding 308pirate's post.

I had a KRG 180-Alpha which has a partial backbone design, similar to the X-Ray. There is some flex, but no barrel contact or effect on accuracy. Only way I could induce movement was to squeeze barrel and forend together, and even then not even close to contact with the barrel. The only design limitation is inability to add a full length arca rail or spigot.

 

[Tx_Aggie]

Seconding 308pirate's post.

I had a KRG 180-Alpha which has the same forend/backbone design as the X-Ray. There is some flex, but no barrel contact or effect on accuracy. Only way I could induce movement was to squeeze barrel and forend together, and even then not even close to contact with the barrel. The only design limitation is inability to add a full length arca rail.

Will the KRG spigots fit? It doesn't look like there is a space for them in the forend (and there's no aluminum backbone to mount them to).

 

[Praeger]

Will the KRG spigots fit? It doesn't look like there is a space for them in the forend (and there's no aluminum backbone to mount them to).

No. The spigot requires the full length backbone. I edited my earlier posting to reflect the difference between the X-Ray and 180-Alpha.

 

[skatz11]

Any idea if this could work on a CZ452?

 

[Stickshift]

No - the action screw pattern and inlet is different between the 455 and the 452 (and between different 452s as well).

 

[Tx_Aggie]

The only thing holding me back from purchasing this chassis is that forearm looks a little short, especially if using a bag like a game changer with a bipod attached.

Could someone who has one of these chassis measure forearm forward of the magazine well?

Might it be possible to modify the forearm to take an aftermarket spigot mount, like the B&T TRG bracket or B&T's new nose rail?

 

[PlinkIt]

11.5" from front of the 455 magwell

 

[Tx_Aggie]

11.5" from front of the 455 magwell

Thank you!

 

[USNavy06]

Well i haven't shot it, but I'll try to explain everything i see messing around house with it.

Aluminum ends where you see circled in the picture

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BUT the way they did the forend is a solid box frame design. I'm a 220lb 20yr maintenance worker and I can't twist the forend just using hands on front and rear in any way.

Now if I use leverage... Grab barrel and apply force directly to the side of the forend I can get it to move enough that I can see it. Only way I can see this making a difference while behind the rifle is if you were to deeply wedge bipod into something and apply a ridiculous amount of pressure to basically torque the forend into a banana... Why anyone would do such a thing I have not a clue...

I took it out on the deck and got behind it as if shooting from barricaded positions. applied pressure to a single bipod leg and I can't see enough flex to amount to anything with any form of pressure I would apply while shooting normally.... Maybe if I was going to put this on a "go to hell" rifle I would rethink polymer anything, but I can't see where anything with this chassisis going to limit you in most cases.

Did you have to sand out the area where the bolt handle rests? I just ordered one of these and my bolt handle won’t close all the way down. Hits on the plastic skin.

 

[USNavy06]

 

[USNavy06]

 

[PlinkIt]

@USNavy06
Might want to call them Monday, I think you got the wrong tail section...

This one came cut to clear the bolt handle

 

[USNavy06]

@USNavy06
Might want to call them Monday, I think you got the wrong tail section...

This one came cut to clear the bolt handle

View attachment 6944742

Thanks for the pic. Yeah looks like I have the wrong section. I’ll see what they say Monday

 

[PlinkIt]

@USNavy06
No problem, pretty sure they will get you squared away. Let us know how it goes though.

 

[nakoa01]

Can you tell me what chassis weighs? Sometimes listed weight varies from actual. Have you had a chance to shoot with chassis

 

[USNavy06]

So a little update. I emailed KRG on Saturday and they responded instantly. Turns out they sent me the wrong buttstock and had a new one on my doorstep that following Wednesday.
Great customer service couldn’t be happier! Thanks KRG

 

[308pirate]

The only thing holding me back from purchasing this chassis is that forearm looks a little short, especially if using a bag like a game changer with a bipod attached.

Could someone who has one of these chassis measure forearm forward of the magazine well?

Might it be possible to modify the forearm to take an aftermarket spigot mount, like the B&T TRG bracket or B&T's new nose rail?

The front end on this chassis is a 180-Xray, of which I have two. The front end is all plastic, with no internal aluminum structure. Doing what you want might be possible, but it certainly won't be easy because the chassis wasn't designed with that in mind.

Even if you use a 10 round magazine, it won't extend far down out of the magwell so you have almost all the way to the trigger guard to accommodate a bag.

 

[Tx_Aggie]

The front end on this chassis is a 180-Xray, of which I have two. The front end is all plastic, with no internal aluminum structure. Doing what you want might be possible, but it certainly won't be easy because the chassis wasn't designed with that in mind.

Even if you use a 10 round magazine, it won't extend far down out of the magwell so you have almost all the way to the trigger guard to accommodate a bag.

Thanks for the response. I've read enough about these to be confident it will do what I want it to, and have ordered one from KRG. Can't wait to give it a try.

 

[BenY 2013]

Anybody have any groups to post from this chassis?

Ben