Movie Theater Last of Us

I didn’t mind that the character turned out to be gay or that there was a “romance”. Their archs made it relevant and very believable. But the kissing and love scenes 🤮🤮🤮🤮

Yeah it took a bit to understand why we were on that “road trip” but it really did make sense, in the end.

What I find funny, is the “woke” thought this was a poke in the face to folks like us. And by reading the comments they had good reason to think that.

Now, pull out your juxtapositional thought & sequential thinking and you’ll see that this was actually extremely good for us and our “cause”. It showed that people who prepare for the end of the world, or for a big event can actually be the most sane of anybody. And that those people can actually be gay and not incredibly woke or woke at all.

It showed that fat white gun people can actually be extremely compassionate, the smartest people on the block, and yes, sometimes they’re gay……… The joke’s on them.
 
Still going to watch at least another episode.

I'm such a fan of the game. I can't think of any more gay shit that can come up any more unless they just create it, and if they do then I'm out.

In the game Bill was a great character. He was a miserable old fuck that didn't like Ellie, and their banter was good. You never met Frank, and didn't even know Bill was gay until you find Frank's dead body. Frank hanged himself and left a note saying that he couldn't stand any more of Bill's bullshit any longer, to which Bill replied well fuck you very much then.

They sacrificed the good Ellie banter to make way for moustache smooching
 
Shit man. I loved the first game. Second one I wanted to like, but just couldn't. I don't know if I even want to watch it now.
Imo there was a really rough, really angering part of the second game, but a short time later somehow got better. It ended up being really good at the end.

Again, there's some gay shit in the game and it's sequel, but it's subdued. It's not overcoming oppressor marginalized bullshit. It was included in the best way that it could have been. It's there but it's not a thing.

This episode was woke bullshit and was a mistake. I'm hoping it's out of their system now, but given the current climate I doubt it.
 
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They could have condensed this whole episode down to about 2 minutes, but the producers wanted to pound the gheys into you for the whole episode.
I think I'll pass on watching any more episodes.
Good. Maybe enough people will and they'll get the hint, that it's not needed. They are catering to about less than 3 percent of the population with that shit. It's fucked
 
I loved the game, still done with the show, was only holding onto the HBO subscription to watch it, cancelled that too

Fuck em. I don't mind the concept that a couple survivalists might be gay, but JFC I have to watch them get busy and argue about fixing up boutiques in the apocalypse?!?! For like an hour and ten minutes of an hour and twenty minute episode??

They could have been gay and just not made it a thing. Instead we have to watch them fall in love, grow strawberries together, take their first mustache ride together, arguing about making the neighborhood pretty for the zombies, growing old together FOR A FUCKING HOUR

I'm out.
 
Fuck em. I don't mind the concept that a couple survivalists might be gay, but JFC I have to watch them get busy and argue about fixing up boutiques in the apocalypse?!?! For like an hour and ten minutes of an hour and twenty minute episode??

This is my biggest issue, LGBT?? brainwashing aside, maybe 5% of the population is normally gay

assume half those are men and you have 2.5% MAX of the population of the country has any interest in seeing gay sex during a zombie video game show

talk about not knowing your audience and being totally out of touch :D

Make it 10 minutes of the show, or say 5% of the total show length and get on with the actual show. Those that want to watch gay porn know where to find it. I would say the same if they spent that much air time in one episode with male/female sex, make it a 10 minute thing and get on with the show, if we want to watch an hour long porno we know where to find those.
 
This is my biggest issue, LGBT?? brainwashing aside, maybe 5% of the population is normally gay

assume half those are men and you have 2.5% MAX of the population of the country has any interest in seeing gay sex during a zombie video game show

talk about not knowing your audience and being totally out of touch :D

Make it 10 minutes of the show, or say 5% of the total show length and get on with the actual show. Those that want to watch gay porn know where to find it. I would say the same if they spent that much air time in one episode with male/female sex, make it a 10 minute thing and get on with the show, if we want to watch an hour long porno we know where to find those.
3.5 percent of the population is either gay, lesbian or Bi. I'd say at least 1.5 to 2 percent are probably bi women. So absolutely agree with everything you said. They gotta wreck shit. Neil druckman, the producer of the game had like half his staff leave. I don't know why, but I'd imagine it was because they wanted to actually make video games and not story lines on sexual fetishes, and butt fuckery
 
Both games as a whole were great. Second one was fuckin brutal as far as what happens to some of the characters. At times it was like you were playing a movie with a great story to it. They are making a LoU 3 game but not exactly sure where they are going to go with it.

First episode was true to the first game and I read that some of the scenes were filmed almost exactly as they happen in the game. These zombies are not your Walking Dead kind. I'm hoping they don't screw this up.
With what they did at the beginning of TLOU2, I just don't think Ellie is strong enough to carry TLOU3 on her own. Unless she finds a new character to have a normal "human" growing experience with, with all of its ups and downs, nothing will ever touch the TLOU1.
 
The success of the first game was the raw human experience of it all, and you spent your time rooting for a relationship to blossom and stay strong despite the obstacles. I felt like they threw a lot of that away with the second game. Ellie had no character to develop a relationship with that you could grow attached to, and I had no sympathy for Abby.

I will watch this show because the first season, at least, will be based on the first game, which to date is still my favorite video game along with the Witcher 3 and Uncharted 4. This show will be a hit.
 
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The success of the first game was the raw human experience of it all, and you spent your time rooting for a relationship to blossom and stay strong despite the obstacles. I felt like they threw a lot of that away with the second game. Ellie had no character to develop a relationship with that you could grow attached to, and I had no sympathy for Abby.

I will watch this show because the first season, at least, will be based on the first game, which to date is still my favorite video game along with the Witcher 3 and Uncharted 4. This show will be a hit.
I'm a bit of a gamer. I've played and beaten the TLOU2, 2 or 3 times and did 100 percent completion. I definitely did not like Abby, but you could sympathize with her...I mean Joel murders her father, who was up in the air about doing surgery on ellie in the first place. TLOU1 and horizon zero dawn are my all time favorites. Going to start playing the Witcher 3 this week if I have time. My brother in law got it for me as a Christmas gift. Never watched the show though.
 
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It's entertaining so far. The last episode spent way too much time on character development around their relationship, could have done the whole thing in about 20 minutes. But the compound was awesome.

I was super annoyed when the dude was in the church with crates of weapons and ammo and he doesn't even grab spare mags...WTF. I mean dude - a grenade, ammo, spare BCG, gun for the kid. That was super dumb.

I'll keep watching, I do like zombie shows.
 
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I don't know anything about the game (didn't even know there was one). Threw me for a loop. How many gay survivalists do you know? I watched it and have reached my hairy-man-love quotient for the Twenty Second Century.

The lone survivalist (or duo) is bullshit. There is safety and security in numbers. The bigger the army the more secure you are when the gubmint goes out the window. People aren't a liability, they're an asset, in fact, the biggest asset. Making them into drones of a totalitarian state is also very far fetched. The kind of people who would survive aren't the kind of people that lay down and get kicked by bullies.

My wife started watching with me, and when she saw the beginning of the second episode in Jakarta she said it was too realistic, "That could happen, and I can't watch it." LOL
 
I'm a bit of a gamer. I've played and beaten the TLOU2, 2 or 3 times and did 100 percent completion. I definitely did not like Abby, but you could sympathize with her...I mean Joel murders her father, who was up in the air about doing surgery on ellie in the first place. TLOU1 and horizon zero dawn are my all time favorites. Going to start playing the Witcher 3 this week if I have time. My brother in law got it for me as a Christmas gift. Never watched the show though.
That's awesome. Be sure to play the DLC expansion packs Blood and Wine and Hearts of Stone.

The reason I couldn't sympathize with Abby was not her story, but how Naughty Dog thought that it was enough of a storyline to compete with the original. The Abby story arc literally exists so that Naughty Dog can teach us all a lesson that Vengence is bad. The beauty of the first game was how real it was, dealing with everything from suicide to pedophilia, from loss to trust issues in a lawless, SHTF-type situation, and by not moralizing anything but rather just showing us life and death decisions of flawed characters and letting us make our own opinion about what we would have done in that situation. I'll have to replay TLOU2, maybe I'll change my mind a second time around.
 
I don't know anything about the game (didn't even know there was one). Threw me for a loop. How many gay survivalists do you know? I watched it and have reached my hairy-man-love quotient for the Twenty Second Century.

The lone survivalist (or duo) is bullshit. There is safety and security in numbers. The bigger the army the more secure you are when the gubmint goes out the window. People aren't a liability, they're an asset, in fact, the biggest asset. Making them into drones of a totalitarian state is also very far fetched. The kind of people who would survive aren't the kind of people that lay down and get kicked by bullies.

My wife started watching with me, and when she saw the beginning of the second episode in Jakarta she said it was too realistic, "That could happen, and I can't watch it." LOL

There is safety in numbers, but there is a reason why one of the two main characters has to work by themselves, I don't want to spoil the show so I won't say it. There are also survivors who don't live in the "totalitarian state" who live out in the wild and fend for themselves. If you want to spoil the show and watch the video game playthrough, which is great because its like watching a movie, then go for it.

 
This is my biggest issue, LGBT?? brainwashing aside, maybe 5% of the population is normally gay

assume half those are men and you have 2.5% MAX of the population of the country has any interest in seeing gay sex during a zombie video game show

talk about not knowing your audience and being totally out of touch :D

Make it 10 minutes of the show, or say 5% of the total show length and get on with the actual show. Those that want to watch gay porn know where to find it. I would say the same if they spent that much air time in one episode with male/female sex, make it a 10 minute thing and get on with the show, if we want to watch an hour long porno we know where to find those.
Exactly, even if it had been a heterosexual couple or my fav 2 hot bi females, the mundane was too much. What’s next an hour on toilet time and what to do when your crap stinks in the apocalypse??
 
I watched a little bit of the first episode. I didn't know anything about it, heard people talking about it and thought I'd check it out. I have HBO -- it's free because of my cell phone contract otherwise I wouldn't pay for it.

Anyway, seeing here that it's based on a video game explains a LOT. I was literally thinking 'holy fuck it's like a shitty cut scene from an old FPS'. They probably literally copied some scenes, lazy fucking leftist dipfucks.

I got to the point were an airplane crashed, everything went black, and magically their vehicle had overturned, they were all alive, then they get out and are separated because two get out in an alley and the other gets out on the other side of the vehicle, it gets smashed by a cop car and there's some fire but not so much they can't just talk to each other over the vehicle... separated... in a zombie apocalypse -- not crawl through the busted ass windows, not climb over the fucking car, no -- just stand right by it and talk then meet up later by the river. Holy fuck.

I was like, ok this is a bad video game.

Seeing the rest of the shit that's to come I'm glad I turned it off.
 
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I didn't come away thinking they were preaching that vengeance is bad, because vengeance from every point of view shown was justified.

I think they were showing that it comes with a cost.
That's awesome. Be sure to play the DLC expansion packs Blood and Wine and Hearts of Stone.

The reason I couldn't sympathize with Abby was not her story, but how Naughty Dog thought that it was enough of a storyline to compete with the original. The Abby story arc literally exists so that Naughty Dog can teach us all a lesson that Vengence is bad. The beauty of the first game was how real it was, dealing with everything from suicide to pedophilia, from loss to trust issues in a lawless, SHTF-type situation, and by not moralizing anything but rather just showing us life and death decisions of flawed characters and letting us make our own opinion about what we would have done in that situation. I'll have to replay TLOU2, maybe I'll change my mind a second time around.
 
I didn't come away thinking they were preaching that vengeance is bad, because vengeance from every point of view shown was justified.

I think they were showing that it comes with a cost.
This was how I saw it. Joel said he would take care of Ellie and get her to the Dr. When he finds out the doctor could hurt or kill Ellie, he kills him THINKING he is doing right by keeping her safe. Come to find out, Joel set off the timer on his life because the doctors daughter now takes up a righteous path to avenge her father's death. So when Joel's time is done, I felt really bad for him but I was also thinking... you did kill her father.

What I found difficult playing the second game, was whose side I was on. Even the ending to the game was like... man, this isn't right. But then Ellie doesn't go through with it.

With a bunch of crap on TV, it's games like this that get me hooked. Try Ghosts of Tsuhima for another game that brings consequences to your actions in the game.
 
This was how I saw it. Joel said he would take care of Ellie and get her to the Dr. When he finds out the doctor could hurt or kill Ellie, he kills him THINKING he is doing right by keeping her safe. Come to find out, Joel set off the timer on his life because the doctors daughter now takes up a righteous path to avenge her father's death. So when Joel's time is done, I felt really bad for him but I was also thinking... you did kill her father.

What I found difficult playing the second game, was whose side I was on. Even the ending to the game was like... man, this isn't right. But then Ellie doesn't go through with it.

With a bunch of crap on TV, it's games like this that get me hooked. Try Ghosts of Tsuhima for another game that brings consequences to your actions in the game.
This sounds like a bad soap opera. I haven’t played the game. I started the show and I couldn’t make it through the first episode and after hearing what happens in episode 3, I am glad I turned it off. My wife who is a walking dead fan was like this show is like a worse version of The Walking Dead.
 
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Well fuck. This show might be based on fact


In a sense, yes. You'd be surprised, or maybe not, how much seriously scary shit in science fiction is just a twist on something that's very real.

If you want to do some real digging -- you can find that people have been creating zombies for millennia. Fungi isn't the scary thing, no, it's the people who would breed that fungi and release it just to see it's effect -- that's the scary.
 
They are teaching us a valuable life lesson.

No need to stockpile gold and bullets when you can just give up that fat, hairy man butt and get a free feed during the apocalypse.

Trade all your ammo away for anal ease and enjoy the end of the world.
 
i don't have hbo, but i heard people loved the show, then they felt dirty...lol

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Good. Maybe enough people will and they'll get the hint, that it's not needed. They are catering to about less than 3 percent of the population with that shit. It's fucked
If you like to watch gay shit (speaking to those that watch it...I haven't), at the very least stream it on the web where it is free and it won't give them the clicks to know its been seen so as to deprive them of viewers.
 
I admit to watching each episode of TLOU, just like TWD, to learn "WHAT NOT TO DO." Episode 6 was ludicrous, watching them fail: light/noise/litter discipline, situational awareness, exposure - unnecessary movement/walking in open fields and along skyline and waterways away from cover/avoiding or scouting choke points (bridges, dams), resource management (water/food/ammo), etc. I'm surprised they lasted past the second episode. What is Joel's fixation with bolt-action rifles and revolvers?
 
I admit to watching each episode of TLOU, just like TWD, to learn "WHAT NOT TO DO." Episode 6 was ludicrous, watching them fail: light/noise/litter discipline, situational awareness, exposure - unnecessary movement/walking in open fields and along skyline and waterways away from cover/avoiding or scouting choke points (bridges, dams), resource management (water/food/ammo), etc. I'm surprised they lasted past the second episode. What is Joel's fixation with bolt-action rifles and revolvers?
Kind of waiting what stupid move they will make next, have the ever watched the TWD or WW Z. Joel get a weapon of war SBR AR with a suppressor dumbass.
 
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I admit to watching each episode of TLOU, just like TWD, to learn "WHAT NOT TO DO." Episode 6 was ludicrous, watching them fail: light/noise/litter discipline, situational awareness, exposure - unnecessary movement/walking in open fields and along skyline and waterways away from cover/avoiding or scouting choke points (bridges, dams), resource management (water/food/ammo), etc. I'm surprised they lasted past the second episode. What is Joel's fixation with bolt-action rifles and revolvers?
Well if haven’t noticed the hidden messaging by now……only bad people have the weapons of war, the good guy has the single shot sorting rifle that’s closer to a musket and the good guys in the thriving community are openly practicing communism.
 
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The Pilgram's well documented flirtation with communal living nearly killed them all, and had very strong influence on our Declaration of Independance and American Liberalism. It doesn't work, because humans are also animals, and they don't work for no reward. Only when they instituted private property did the Plymouth Colony start to thrive. It's simply human nature, and no colony of survivors could live that way. It has NEVER worked even when populated by communist true-believers. Bernie Sanders himself was kicked out of a commune for being lazy and not working. The only way it has ever worked is through the institution of slavery, which is basically what communism is. The few own everything, including all the slaves.
 
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Well if haven’t noticed the hidden messaging by now……only bad people have the weapons of war, the good guy has the single shot sorting rifle that’s closer to a musket and the good guys in the thriving community are openly practicing communism.

This right here. With millions of AR’s in the US (even as of 2003) and only bad guys have the bad black rifles. All the good homies toting bolt action fudd rifles and revolvers. Definitely a message trying to be sent…never ceases to amaze me.
 
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You could see it that way if you choose to. Your points are valid.

But consider that this is based off of a video game where you start off weak with little to no weapons and become stronger as you progress.

Joel's revolver is iconic as is the bolt rifle whether it's held by him or her.

Everything is a stage however, and I'll not dispute that someone could have an agenda.

I'll admit that this aspect doesn't translate well into a real scenario
 
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Hadn't seen that. Yeah that's bs nobody liked episode 3.

Looks like they're going to finish the entire 1st game in 1 season. Next episode looks to cover the expansion where you learn that Ellie is gay. It's not part of the game, but is where the expansion takes place in the timeline. It's barely a mention in the game. We'll see how hard they go with it for the show. She is 14, but today's liberal crowd knows no moral boundaries
 
You could see it that way if you choose to. Your points are valid.

But consider that this is based off of a video game where you start off weak with little to no weapons and become stronger as you progress.

Joel's revolver is iconic as is the bolt rifle whether it's held by him or her.

Everything is a stage however, and I'll not dispute that someone could have an agenda.

I'll admit that this aspect doesn't translate well into a real scenario
Maybe iconic behavior and weaponry, I know I would want to carry my favorite sniping rifle. But it's been TWENTY YEARS since the outbreak, has Joel not learned anything - even common sense. At the end of the episode 'Endure and Survive' was a perfect opportunity to improve weapons, increase ammo supplies, etc. The infected are evolving, e.g., asymptomatics, clickers, runners, bloaters, etc., the characters are not improvising, adapting, and overcoming.

Primarily, the producers have an agenda. But at $10 million/episode they sould offer a little more than CGI effects.

Like I said, I am learning from their mistakes.
 
This right here. With millions of AR’s in the US (even as of 2003) and only bad guys have the bad black rifles. All the good homies toting bolt action fudd rifles and revolvers. Definitely a message trying to be sent…never ceases to amaze me.
I agree with your logic with a caveat……by the timeline of this show (15 years after the collapse) all the ammo would be gone……there would just be bits and pieces around more than likely .22LR would be king, so maybe that’s what the producers are thinking there couldn’t be any sustained firefights no one has the ammo for it.
 
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Been watching it too - as others have said episode 3 was way to long for something that was just setting up their next stop...

so far very few "teaching moments" - have you learned anything about the skills you might need in an emergency? water purification, shelter building, resource management, anything?

They pass a huge herd of bison, yet there is little food... you might even use those bison skins for leather :) - hard to bite through leather
Everyone is still in jeans and tee shirts, not leather pants... if bites are the biggest thing would you not have developed at least SOME specialty clothing. Nobody has any body armor when humans are the 2nd biggest threat...
Ammo lasts a long time and while many on this site have their favorite specialty calibers there is a lot of 9mm and 5.56 in the US
So lets say there is no ammo - no bows, very few knives...
They have these tiny day packs... really....
They have no ammo or batteries... but the are all driving around using siphoned gas from 20 years ago...
Their flashlights always work.... for days and days of use - with 2003 incandescent technology.
They had a radio for music, from 2003... again were are these alkaline batteries coming from, but lead acid batteries are not available?
No one has a bike... they are walking... you could ride a mtn bike 50-100 miles a day easy... and carry stuff in saddle bags
Ok, so gas is still good after 20 years but batteries are not, but the bad guys have tons of vehicles... all that seem to work fine - how about kick start motorcycles....

So initially they turn on the nat gas in episode 3 and start the generator... and then it runs for 20 years... never breaking? the gas plant gets nat gas from where? pumped and pressurized how? I can suspend disbelief and say it is all awesome for 2-3 years but 20 years?

I am only on episode 5 so we will see how some of the others turn out...
 
Watching series, after first episode realized the only take away will be mocking what they are portraying as life 20+ years after. It's like the Producer & Director want to get there shit together, Joel using duct tape to fix his boot, have you ever tried using that old roll in the garage, stuff has a shelf-life just like gas and batteries. Now Have Joel fix his boot with the same tape but make a quick one liner " impossible to get this shit to roll", explained it away. Note to myself: If you're dumbass survives even a quarter of this time frame refrain from target practice or shooting warning shots across the river of death.
 
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Yeah that warning shot was freakin stupid. I actually rolled that back because I couldn’t believe I had actually seen it. So was Jackson, WY being what it was. Like the only folks who would survive in Wyoming would be the rich woke-sters in Jackson. 🙄 We’d send them packing.

The casting of the Joel and the girl was excellent though. Casting means a lot to me. It’s this show’s only real saying grace. There is just enough decent writing interwoven, to properly exploit them.

Oh, and I did like the homage to Northern Exposure. One of the writers was a fan…..

Joel giving girl rifle shooting lesson. Joel "Now touch the trigger easy like you love it" Girl: "You going shoot this thing or get it pregnant?" 🤠

Just when I was going to give up on it…….
 
Another entire episode wasted on the global homo depopulation agenda and nothing to do with survival during the apocalypse.

No one running the power plant noticed the huge extra draw on power of firing up a giant fucking mall?
Have to admire them for playing Moral Kombat II and getting some "finish him" kills in. MK2 was a glorious arcade game in the early 90's. :cool: