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PBWalsh

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Hi,

Me and my wife are needing to buy our first riding lawnmower. Something affordable around 1.5k. We are only needing it for a bit less than an acre of land. Needs to be relatively easy to use as we’ll both be using it.

Any suggestions from the collective mind would be appreciated.
 
Lawn mowers as god intended them to be! hahaha

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I have had John Deere and Husky and all had problems, I bought a Gravely and haven’t had a problem. I mow 3 acres for myself and my mom 2 times a month. They are expensive but everything is serviceable so it should last forever.
 
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+1 for the Gravely. My folks have one from almost 50 years ago. It will not go to the "Grave"-ly.

He's also go a Cub Cadet that was his Dad's, and I'm pretty sure that thing still runs like a top, but has been retired due to parts being hard to find.
 
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Hi,

Me and my wife are needing to buy our first riding lawnmower. Something affordable around 1.5k. We are only needing it for a bit less than an acre of land. Needs to be relatively easy to use as we’ll both be using it.

Any suggestions from the collective mind would be appreciated.
Bought an MTD at Costco, jeez in about '94. Worked well, sold it for what I paid for it in about 2003. No maintenance issues, worked fine. Stay away from Sears. I have one now and am just waiting for it to die. Won't own another one.

edit; 9/10ths of an acre, don’t need heavy duty here. Others have given excellent advice re; heavier duty units.
 
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$1500 is going to be tough to get a good mower. I would say zero turn mowers are easier to operate than a riding mower once you get some seat time.

I bought my used Kubota Kommander Z125 42" deck for $2k and that was a steal.

Bad Boy, Gravely, Kubota, Ferris, are all good brands.
 
Zero-turn is cooler in the summer because you're sitting in front of the engine, "fleeing" from the heat it disperses as you ride. Ifn your in humid/hot weather state, that could be something to consider.

Zero-turns take a little longer to learn to drive but it's nothing that can't be learned on the first ride, though to cut or drive precisely will take a few hours' seat time and a light touch. They can cut in a sharp "no-radius" U-turn though the pivoting wheel might tear up some grass; I never cared on 5 acres of country lawn.

(A lot of the possible time saved will depend on how many trees and other obstacles you have to cut around.) A conventional mower with engine in front and single rear-wheel drive will take maybe about 20% - 33% longer than a zero-turn to cut the same area. For a one-acre parcel that may not matter much, but still, it adds time to the chore. I used to have a 48" Craftsman front-engine; it would cut 5 acres in 4hr 30min. Then I bought a 60" zero-turn; it did the same acreage in 2'10". Figuring at least 20% of the save time was because of the larger deck--that means that 80% of the time saved (140 minutes)-- or 1 hr 50 minutes was saved each time because the zero-turn was more efficient. Actually, the math works out to 270 minutes vs. 110 minutes, 40% seat time with a zero turn--that's a lot of gas and wear and tear saved over the lifetime of the mower.

Lastly, whatever you buy, if you set up your mower with "Gator Blades" (a mulching blade) you can chop the grass (and leaves) back into the lawn and you'll never have to rake again.

I'd also suggest you try to find a used mower. "Old" doesn't mean 'beat to hell' if you find one that has been well-cared for. The more recent builds have a terrible reputation, mostly deserved because they're Made in China--MTD, Club Cadet, John Deere, et al from Lowe's/Home Depot. Find something built about 15-25 years old that's being sold by a lawn/tractor repair business. They take in used equipment all the time. The older ones will generally have been built with better QC standards.

Gravely, Scag, Kubota, Exmark, Husqvarna are the dependable OEMs. Whatever you choose, front engine or zero-turn, stick with "Non-Lowes (and Home Depot) brands" that are sold at lawn-maintenance supply stores. They'll have better quality merchandise--but be prepared... the prices will make you cry; and wonder if your options are as big as your wishes. I'm a REAL cheep Scrooge mofo--it broke my heart to spend $7Gs for a lawnmower--to do "chores", but that zero-turn was 5x the mower the Craftsman was (and the Craftsman was $3300 when I bought it new). It lasted 5 years and was beat to hell cutting at least 30x per year. It rattled like half a can of marbles and took 4 passes to cut around a tree. I just wish I'da believed my country cousin's advice when he told me that I'd spend at least $1,500 per acre for a used mower if I bought wisely and correctly the first time, with a goal of buy once, cry once. He was right...

If your acre is flat unobstructed open ground, you might get by on the cheap with a Lowes/HD product. Otherwise, I'll stand by my recommendation. By the way, for an acre, you don't need a big deck. 48" is prolly 'too big'--you'll be paying for more than you need; 36" might be on the small side, but 42" sounds like it'd do well. Ask a pro tractor guy what size they'd recommend.
 
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like the goat idea except they would eat patches down to the nubs not an even cut across the top but in turn the mower would not be as taste on a grill as the goat or lamb and mint jelly goes with either dam well mmmmm lamb baaaaa baa

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At that price the only thing what's going to change is the color of the mower. The basic parts will practically be the same. Buy the mower that has the closest repair shop to your house. $1500, sadly isn't much for one. I think even the Home Depot/Lowes specials are going for about $1700 now.

Good Luck!
 
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Dad bought a new cub cadet around 1976-78 ... my son still using it.. but dad was super picky washed it after each mowing... I bought a new jd 737 about 10 years ago after messing with several cheaper mowers .. some of the best money I ever spent.. lot of times they run zero % financing in the spring sales .. if you don’t want to spend that I’d look in the used commercial market ..
 
I work on mowers for a living. Some are easy to work on some are not. Cub, capsman. Not worth buying. Make sure you have a dealer close by.
Please grease the damn spindles on the deck, clean your deck!!
Make sure the deck is level. I can go on and on. If you want help PM me. I work for a dealer but I’m stuck working on what people bring in. Take your stuff to the correct dealer!!!!
 
Buy once, cry once. I bought a Ferris 48"/21HP ZTR in '07 for $5000 +/-, has only 500 hrs on it, looks almost brand new, mows like a champ, only repairs I paid to have done was the two new drive belts in '19 IIRC. I change the oil/filter at the end of the mowing season, grease everything about 3x's during the mowing season, and change/sharpen the blades when needed. I've got 2 new rear tires to put on before this mowing season, battery I replaced last yr. I'll die or quit mowing the yard myself before the ZTR quits. I mow about 3/4 acre now, but for 3 yrs I mowed my yard and SIL next door about the same size lot.
 
I got a zero turn Cub Cadet, 50” cut, it’s got a Kawasaki v twin. 12 years old, we used it for 2-3 years with a grass cutting business. Still got it, runs like new. Only put like two batteries, one set of blades, and I’m fixing to slap new tires, due to being dry rot. I think I paid like $2995.00 at Homedepot.
 
check Craigslist in your area. Find a used Cub or JD. I prefer tractors over zero turns. They are more versatile. Better at pulling a trailer of mulch, roller, dethatcher, etc. If you can find one with power steering even better. I picked up a 2007 JD GX345 and it’s been a fantastic machine for me.
 
I got a zero turn Cub Cadet, 50” cut, it’s got a Kawasaki v twin. 12 years old, we used it for 2-3 years with a grass cutting business. Still got it, runs like new. Only put like two batteries, one set of blades, and I’m fixing to slap new tires, due to being dry rot. I think I paid like $2995.00 at Homedepot.
The Kawasaki V-Twin is a very good engine. I'd bet the drive motors are made by Hydro Gear which are in basically every zero turn.


The frame and deck of the mowers are the main differences in the brands.

Kubota offers Briggs and Scrap iron, Kohler, Kawasaki, and Kubota Diesel engines in their mowers depending on model. And yes, I meant to say scrap iron. Thise V-Twin engines are junk.
 
Brand of the mower is probably less critical than the brand of the engine. Most mowers have a Briggs, Kohler, Honda, or Kawasaki.

This is kinda a Ford vs Chevy thing, but I hate Briggs. They make shit engines and Kohler has started a swift slide downhill, too, from what I've heard.

I'm a big fan of Kawasaki mower engines.

Next up you'll want to consider mower type (tractor or zero-turn), deck width, discharge, bag, mulch, whatever options you want.

I bought a Bad Boy zero turn with the 24hp Kawasaki. I've always done mulching mowers to avoid dogs tracking in clippings but that's not been a problem with this mower -- even with the discharge the clippings are so small it's better than any mulching mower I've used.

As others have mentioned -- if you aren't handy and work on your own stuff -- make sure there's a dealer close that is good. Riding mowers require maintenance more like a car than a push mower. You don't maintain the trannys or engine on a riding mower and you'll quickly find your mower become completely worthless in a couple seasons. I can't imagine it even being worth it for a sub-acre yard to even do it yourself if you're paying someone else to maintain your equipment.

Might be something you consider; get some quotes for yard maintenance and see if you'd be better off just paying someone. I mean, could be you just want to do your own yard but who knows... if I didn't maintain my own equipment, I'd definitely just pay someone to do it. Depends on where you live but there's tons of people here in NW Arkansas that will do everything on a yard for $40 a week during season. That's going to run you about $1k a year. Between gas and maintenance you'll probably spend that or near that on your own equipment anyway.

Just with consumables; gas, line, blades, etc, you'd be at 20% of that cost. If you maintain your own equipment, you're saving some money -- at the expense of your own time, of course. But, take your mower to the shop for a pre-season tune-up that's probably $150-200, and the same to winterize. You're 80% of the way to paying someone to do it all for you and that's not even accounting for the cost of the actual equipment itself.
 
From above the term "maintain / maintenance" seems to show up frequently. I'm retired, mechanical, have a nice shop. I'm on a small fixed income. Bought a non-running Husqvarna Zero Turn with electrical issues... Had been in a fleet for a Lawn Service Company.... Basically rode hard and put away wet. Picked it up for $500 and put another $500 in parts and service (oil, blades, etc)... Did me a good job last summer mowing 3 acres on rough ground.

In your situation, I'd look around at some estate sales, moving sales, etc.... Prices on everything are skyrocketing... Get something used and properly maintain it.

Hobo
 
If your lawn is a bit rough, the typical zero turns don’t ride the best. X320, X475, and X720 here. All Kawasaki engines. 3 dealers to choose from within 20 minutes of us.
 
Every tractor mower in the $1500 price range is going to be the same OEM. Only difference is the color and slight operational differences.

go to an actual landscape/ag dealer for the real products.

my personal place is 1 acre of turf Bermuda I mow with a JD x350. Commercial Kawasaki engine, stamped 3/16” deck.

also mow like 5 acres with a JD z645, property gets high grass, rough terrain and a lot of trees. I’ve tried mowing the same property with my x350 and it was soooo much slower. The x350 is great if you are going to be mowing turf grass that’s doesn’t get super high. That 5 acres takes me roughly 1.5 hours or so on the zero turn, and would take probably 4-5 hours on the x350. The extra hp to cut tall grass helps, and you can cut faster. Also just moving around from one spot to the other that sucker is quick. Tractor you are limited to walking speed all the time.

I remember one time we mowed the entire place that’s like 11 acres when it was really overgrown. I was on my x350 for 6 hours and did around 4 acres. Other guy came up in a bigger jd zero turn and did the rest of it in around an hour. I would constantly have to back up and reverse because I would get bogged down, and then make a second pass to get it cut to length, where the zt could do it all in one pass without stopping. 4-5 extra hp made a big difference.

Tractor is easier to pull around a spray rig.

tractor can set cruise control and drink a beer a lot easier.

they each have their pros and cons. I don’t care to have a zero turn for my 1 acre, but I would hate to have that tractor to mow that 5 acres with, zero
 
Hustler with a v-twin Kawasaki used Super Duty 48 3-4K. Change the oil and filter every 50 hours! Not every season that’s asking for the engine to puke. I cut grass for a living .

I’m just curious here, how many hours per season do you think the average Joe spends on a riding mower for a sub-acre property?
 
We live in piney woods country. Used to take two weeks of working every day to rake up the pine straw with a mower pulled raker. Cannot imagine what it would take to rake it by hand.

With mulching blades/kit under our lawn tractor, its a two easy day job to mulch up all the straw.
 
Use Toro Timecutter Zero turn for my 1/2 acre lawn i mow once a week depending on the season , as i have some fruit trees to mow around zero turn is the only way to go , 15y later the mower is still going strong, Kawasaki V2 seems to be in good shape. I also have a Toro reelmaster 216 mower i bought used changed an engine after first season and its running like new, but its not used much, only a couple of times per year as is useful only as long as you are keeping the lawn at well under 2in high ,which means mowing every 2-3 days for much of the season.
But it sure makes for a nice lawn and at 84in cutting width its fast as well ,big down side with reel mowers are the tiny hoppers.
 
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Well this thread is timely as I have a 2006 Craftsman 18hp rider that has been getting ready to puke for a couple years. Its burning some oil, more-so with a heavy load. I don't believe at this stage it is worth putting money into. It has been used and abused for things not intended. Not sure that I want to drop 3k or more on one, but the little Kubota tractor would... tear up the sod around the house. Maybe I will luck into a spring deal -sale on last years models. About an acre of grass around the house...is there one that mulches dog turds especially well? :ROFLMAO: