Sidearms & Scatterguns Les Baer 1911 with 1.5 guarantee Problem

Looks like some folks want you to feel foolish for caring. You can always let it go and feel less foolish. And then, if you don't rough it up yourself and really need two grand in a couple months and have to sell, you can feel foolish all over again for not getting it fixed.
 
Here's what that cute little mark will look like after a few thousand rounds. The upside is, once it looks like this, you don't have to worry about how it looks anymore.

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OP, You can pretty much ignore this in light of the many who have written exactly the opposite, sold their other semi-customs after buying a LBC.

Joe

It really depends on what you are after. I think Browns are prettier than Baers and have a better fit and finish. I also think that my Baer will outshoot anything out there, so I am not bothered by its cosmetic shortcomings. Personally, I don't like the look of Wilson Combats, but some people can't get enough of them. It's not a question of good, better, best with these pistols, it is a question of what you prize most in a pistol. And then you have folks like Heirloom and others that put out full house customs that it doesn't matter what you like, they are best in all categories.
 
Maybe I'm just poor but if I drop 2k on a pistol and after 60 rounds its rubbed the finish off itself ( even in a small spot ) then I'ld want it fixed. In my eyes the issue is not that its scuffed; the issue is that normal shooting ( not dropping, holster wear, scratches from taking it apart or other shit that does happen) wore the finish off in a little over a box of ammo. I would put the 500 rounds through it to see if there were any other issues, hoping that a high spot would wear itself down then send it in. If you are happy with the way it comes back then great if not then sell it and get something you think you'ld be more happy with. It's your money don't spend 2k on shit your unhappy with when there are alot of smaller gunsmiths who would love to have you business ( and produce quality 1911s ) and will make any problems right with it and do that alot faster turn around time, Not bashing Mr. Baer, his shop makes very nice guns but they are not the only one doing so.
 
After reading all of this, I am thankful I am a work gun guy and look at guns as tools, not jewelry. Also glad a 400 dollar polymer pistol can come out the box and get right to work without having to break it in for 1000 rounds first. Also thankful I sold the only pistol I paid over 1500 dollars for, but damn it, no matter how much I think 1911's suck, I still find myself wanting another. Maybe one day when I'm a well paid rich guy, I'll break down and buy another, or maybe that bug will force me to think irrationally again in the near future. Life is interesting that way I guess.

My opinion, (which really doesn't matter, but I'm egotistic like most, so I tell it anyway), is to shoot that bitch. If scratches bother you, buy a cheap Glock and you will be stippling, chopping, and dropping it in the dirt with little care.
 
The comment, "shoot it for 500 rounds then to send it back for refinishing" is a great way for custom fitting the dust cover to slide, I would think. Just add oil and maybe some polishing compound, carbon, etc and good to go maybe in 250 rounds. Maybe what they do or else pull out the dremel or file.

I do understand your frustration though when I got a custom 1911 from Barsto barrels back when they were in 29 stumps. There was a burr on the feed ramp that had some FTF which I told Irv that but it functioned for him fine. WHen I took it in again and we relooked at it they saw the burr and knocked it down. Glad that I was a 5min drive from the shop.
 
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My Nighthawk AAC has some wear on it, it has some dings on the tall sights too. But oh man does it shoot, I have no idea how many rounds through it, 2000? Who cares, it runs like a top, the trigger is perfection, just perfect. The dings on the gun are things people who don't know much about guns focus on... Folks that are big into shooting, note the trigger, note the feel, note the heft of that tool steel, and shoot it.

I bought it for me, but I consider it the wife's she just loves to shoot it. The dings? They came from me, dropping it a few times from holsters, every time, unloaded, going to or from the vehicle. Bravo Company Holster fixed that...

Roll with it! If it starts being a super model and going UGH NO THAT AMMO IS NOT FOR ME! Then toss it down the road, but if she eats everything, doesn't hiccup and fart at the wrong times, time to marry that gun.
 
I has been sent back. Say what you will but any one of you would beat me up and beat my pricing up if I were to put the gun on here for sale with this mark for the same value as a used gun with no issues.
 
I understand wanting an expensive pistol like that to work without wearing it's finish off almost immediately. I would give Baer a chance to fix the finish, and whatever caused the scratches before getting too upset though. The OP's comments about how prospective second purchasers of the pistol would devalue the pistol for those marks are spot on. I don't think the OP is being unreasonable after paying top dollar for a nice pistol.
 
Looks like some folks want you to feel foolish for caring. You can always let it go and feel less foolish. And then, if you don't rough it up yourself and really need two grand in a couple months and have to sell, you can feel foolish all over again for not getting it fixed.

SKS Guy said:
Say what you will but any one of you would beat me up and beat my pricing up if I were to put the gun on here for sale with this mark for the same value as a used gun with no issues.

That's about as well-said as I could do it, too!

Some of us understand your disappointment/frustration in Baer's response time and "advice" (shoot it some more before sending it in). That's the way Baer works. You paid less for your gun than the comparable Wilson or Brown because it's "understood" amongst most 'limited-production' 1911 buyers that Baer doesn't finish their guns' fitment, the buyer does. "Go shoot 500 factory rounds through it" is his "take two aspirin and call me in morning" response. He might recoat it for you gratis; he'll certainly look at it when you send it in on your dime. The difference is, your Baer gun has to be cycled and 'honed' by you (by shooting 500 rounds). That 'factory ammo cost' of ~$230 is the money you saved instead of paying for a Wilson or Brown. Some guys will say, "ya gotta field test it anyway... why pay Wilson or Brown". Sure, that's not the point, the way you see it now--and if you send it in, you're gonna have to field-test it again. But it's part of the reason Wilsons and Browns cost more; they're charging for the "final finish" that your 500 rounds of cycling will accomplish.

I've had some "true" custom guns pass through my hands; Yost, Brian, and Heirloom Precision ... none of them have more than 3,000 rounds through them except for two of the Brians. (One of the Brians has about 15,000 through it now.) None of them show ANY signs of wear externally except on the insides of the rails--but these guns are true customs, and more than twice the cost of a Baer, Wilson, or Brown. The expectation that 'everything fits perfectly' comes with the price--unfortunately, in your case, the $2, -3,000 price range doesn't really guarantee that anymore, especially in the Baer line. It's part of the territory.

As is inferred by many who've posted to your comments, it /is/ a tool; if you expect it to be unblemished (as I would at the $2G level) you'll have to pay extra to get it there. That's just the way it is; perfect $2,000-3,000 1911's went out with Swenson, Behlert, Hoag, and the like. Even then, they had 'bad days', just not as many as Baer, Wilson, and Brown--those brands' usual examples aren't really "custom" guns in spite of their supposed 'reputations'--you'd have to get into their flagship guns to get that quality (Brown's Classic Custom, Wilson's Super Grade and Baer's Presentation [though I've not seen the Presentation]).

By the way, one thing that hasn't been mentioned--the money jump from 'limited-production' to true 'custom' work--the much higher prices should bring orgasmic accuracy, aside from all the frills. That's what your money should be paying for, not looks; looks are "done" at ~$1700. From there on, it's all fitment. Two of the C. T. Brian guns I have held 5/8" at 50 yd from a Ransom Rest after field-testing (1500-2000 round count). They're real shooters; they better be, for the price. Accuracy in 1911's is like 1/10th's of a second at the 1/4 mile... the more you shave off, the higher the cost (almost geometrically), to the point of diminishing returns.

Conceptually, it seems that you might not have understood all this. I intend it not to come across as presumptuous.
 
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Received gun back today. It looks great! Invoice says recontoured slide and frame, and total reblue. I can see a noticeable space between the slide and frame as should be. Very pleased with Les Baer customer service and and the results.