Lets see those tactical 22s!

[Rinky]

Colt, Umarex, S&W, the scar clones etc! Lets see what you got!

I got this crazy idea to make a HK416-22 built to look just like the Neptune Spear raid guns used on UBL.

So here she be! The first pic is my new 22. The 2nd pic is a comparison of the clone to the actual 416 involved in the raid and the 3rd pic is what I started with.

 

[Rinky]

Anyone? Theres gotta be someone out there thats proud of their 22 ar15?

 

[djblingbling1]

Ill bite...both are long since sold:

 

[woogie_man]

How do you like the 417?

 

[jonaddis84]

MP15-22 SBR, 4.5" barrel, TBAC 22L-1, MOE stock, 1-4 PST, Surefire M952, BADASS selector, Cerakote C Series FDE

This is possibly my favorite gun in the safe to shoot, also the quietest. The only thing that would definitely push it to the top is a speedloader I friggin hate loading these mags.

The gun normally just wears a TRS25 and no light, but threw that stuff on for some night varmint eradication. (atlas only on for ease of standing for pic)

 

[defcon]

Half of my .22LR clones except for the Saiga 12 and AR15(still saving up for a CMMG .22 bolt conversion)

Latest .22LR using Savage MKII F


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[Rinky]

Holy shnikes! Lol still waiting on saving up for a conversion made me chuckle. That is one serious arsenal of 22s. But damn they look good! Very cool.

I just wanted to do something that I couldn't see had been ever done before besides with true HK416s. I got the idea to makea clone oof the Osama bin laden raid guns used by SEAL Team 6. Since it was such a historic event.

Where do you get the stocks/chassis' youre dropping those puppies in?

 

[Rinky]

MP15-22 SBR, 4.5" barrel, TBAC 22L-1, MOE stock, 1-4 PST, Surefire M952, BADASS selector, Cerakote C Series FDE

This is possibly my favorite gun in the safe to shoot, also the quietest. The only thing that would definitely push it to the top is a speedloader I friggin hate loading these mags.

The gun normally just wears a TRS25 and no light, but threw that stuff on for some night varmint eradication. (atlas only on for ease of standing for pic)

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That's cool! I bet that's your favorite! A mag dump is 2$! Lol

 

[Rinky]

How do you like the 417?

I like it, it is heavy and has some seriously sharp edges though. Its not a fan of 30rd mags but it could be the crappy Remington bulk pack ammo.

 

[bjay]

it just upgraded sig 522 and her daddy sbr 556

 

[defcon]

Holy shnikes! Lol still waiting on saving up for a conversion made me chuckle. That is one serious arsenal of 22s. But damn they look good! Very cool.

I just wanted to do something that I couldn't see had been ever done before besides with true HK416s. I got the idea to makea clone oof the Osama bin laden raid guns used by SEAL Team 6. Since it was such a historic event.

Where do you get the stocks/chassis' youre dropping those puppies in?

yea that AR .22 CMMG conversion wasnt a high priority at the time. i just wanted to create more .22 airsoft conversions before i buy a CMMG .22 kit.

just look for airsoft stocks that are broken or used. i usually pay an average of $100 for each stock. its the closest 1:1 scale centerfire clone that i can find and i still get the reliability/availability of the 10/22, marlin 60/795/XT-22 and Savage MKII

you can find all my range vids here
http://www.youtube.com/user/defconskylude/videos?query=full

 

[The Godfather]

Wow defcon, do you have any build threads for some of the rifles? Very cool!

I have a cmmg .22 AR upper and I'm currently collecting parts for a custom setup w/ a beyer barrel.

 

[SuckitTrebek]

Half of my .22LR clones except for the Saiga 12 and AR15(still saving up for a CMMG .22 bolt conversion)

Latest .22LR using Savage MKII F

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God damn clone weapons are incredibly stupid!!

I see the point if you use a particular weapon for work but need something the same for training purposes.

But when you have a clone of 23 different weapons it gets into pretty damn lame territory.

 

[evilcoon]

After seeing that surplus that's like me whipping out my monkey in front of Holmes...

 

[AlabamaShooter]

Not supa tactical but it runs like a champ. Nordic upper on my LMT lower.

 

[Wonko_The_Sane]

God damn clone weapons are incredibly stupid!!

I see the point if you use a particular weapon for work but need something the same for training purposes.

But when you have a clone of 23 different weapons it gets into pretty damn lame territory.

Yea, but they could be used for "training" to familiarize yourself with the real ones, well, minus the fact that they don't load from the same magazines as the real ones, or have charging handles that function like the real one... or safeties switches that are in the same place as the real one... or triggers like the real one...

 

[defcon]

God damn clone weapons are incredibly stupid!!

I see the point if you use a particular weapon for work but need something the same for training purposes.

But when you have a clone of 23 different weapons it gets into pretty damn lame territory.

After seeing that surplus that's like me whipping out my monkey in front of Holmes...

its my money. im not in the military and im not training to kill babies. i shoot for fun and building these for my son when hes old enough to shoot with me.

who gives a shit what you think.

here comes all the bad ass internet commandos now

 

[SuckitTrebek]

Yea, but they could be used for "training" to familiarize yourself with the real ones, well, minus the fact that they don't load from the same magazines as the real ones, or have charging handles that function like the real one... or safeties switches that are in the same place as the real one... or triggers like the real one...

Well. to that smart ass post here you go.

I happen to have a GSG5 .22 clone of a H&K MP5SD

I got it for training purposes myself.

Hmm. Charging handle is the same, safety is the same, loads from a magazine that is nearly identical, trigger is close enough.

Overall I'd say some are extremely close to operating how the actual firearm not in .22 should.

But as I said, when I see someone that has 13 of them it's obviously not for that purpose.

 

[Wonko_The_Sane]

...

I don't know where you got the fact that was directed against you...?

I was referring to the uselessness of the airsoft .22's, which have none of the same features as to what they look like, unlike the GSG5, Sig522, 416-22, etc. Congrats on not getting that though.

 

[willist]

God damn clone weapons are incredibly stupid!!

I see the point if you use a particular weapon for work but need something the same for training purposes.

But when you have a clone of 23 different weapons it gets into pretty damn lame territory.

I agree with you. They may look the walk, but they can't talk the talk.

 

[SuckitTrebek]

I don't know where you got the fact that was directed against you...?

I was referring to the uselessness of the airsoft .22's, which have none of the same features as to what they look like, unlike the GSG5, Sig522, 416-22, etc. Congrats on not getting that though.

My applogies then. Thought that was directed toward me.

Though I do disagree a bit with you, they have their place for training.

 

[SuckitTrebek]

its my money. im not in the military and im not training to kill babies. i shoot for fun and building these for my son when hes old enough to shoot with me.

who gives a shit what you think.

here comes all the bad ass internet commandos now

Training to kill babies? not sure what the fuck that means.

If you have them for fun I totally see that. I just think it's lame as hell.

 

[JoeMartin]

its my money. im not in the military and im not training to kill babies.

Defcon,

I support your right to build and shoot what you like under our 2nd Ammendment.

I can't say that I cared for that comment above. Being a veteran who served back in the early to mid 70's, I was never trained to, nor would I ever, kill babies.

 

[Wonko_The_Sane]

My applogies then. Thought that was directed toward me.

Though I do disagree a bit with you, they have their place for training.

No, I understand.

I don't disagree on the fact that they do have a place in training, but only when they function the same as what they are replicating. The GSG, Colt, 416-22, etc all do just that. They load from magazines that replicate the larger counter parts, magazines fit where the larger counterpart has a magazine that fits, actions are charged the same way, and have selector switches that function the same way to. That's what I was trying to get at the first time, I know internet sarcasm is hard to pick up, but now that it is known, that first post might make more sense.

But when you stuff a 10/22 or tube fed Marlin into a airsoft body though, you get none of that and end up with something that only looks like another rifle from far away. Which in my opinion is completely useless, and as you say, lame. Excluding the cost of the rimfires inside them, there is still about 1100$ in airsoft bodies there which could of gone towards a rifle actually worth something to pass on to your kid.

 

[woogie_man]

I think they are all cool as he'll. If they are not your thing then piss off, I mean really. Not all of us can afford a $2k rifle or higher, and if he is able to get his dream rifles this way, then more power to him. As long as he is having fun and is being fun, then let him and keep all your pissy comments to yourself.

 

[Rinky]

Is any of this crap necessary? Regardless of what you all think about defcon's 22's it shows ingenuity and creativity plus ive seen people spend a lot stupider amounts of money on shit in this forum. For example a 4000$ rifle scope, a 8,000$ 10,000yd rangefinder or thermal optics in that price range.

Either way. To each their own. Personally I like them and theyre not the usual which i also like. Shake your dicks this pissin match is over.

 

[Wonko_The_Sane]

I've already shared my opinion, so I don't have anymore to say about it, but I see no reason why anyone else shouldn't be allowed to talk negatively on it if they want. I see no issue with sharing honest opinions over something, good or bad. What's the point of a discussion forum if you only keep it one sided on everything...

 

[795jrod]

heres my marlin 795! tactical inovations muzzle break, bsa .22 special scope, ati dragnov stock, nice folding bipod!

 

[defcon]

Training to kill babies? not sure what the fuck that means.

If you have them for fun I totally see that. I just think it's lame as hell.

ya my bad. that was harsh.

i meant to say that i dont do any competition matches and these rifles were not intended to be used for home defense, zombies/apocalypse, military training, etc.

these were purposely built for form over function. cool and fun factor. nothing more

btw i have over 30 of them if that makes me even twice as lame

But when you stuff a 10/22 or tube fed Marlin into a airsoft body though, you get none of that and end up with something that only looks like another rifle from far away. Which in my opinion is completely useless, and as you say, lame. Excluding the cost of the rimfires inside them, there is still about 1100$ in airsoft bodies there which could of gone towards a rifle actually worth something to pass on to your kid.

as for $1100 worth of airsoft bodies, yes i could have bought another rifle with all the money ive put in these but i CHOOSE not to.

hes going to be the only kid with this unique collection proudly built by his lame dad. something that cant be easily purchased off the shelf

 

[noeesp]

Great collection! Opinions are like-well you know the rest.

Here are two I have picked up the last few years. One is an M&P 15-22 and the other is a Sig 522 swat edition. I believe the sigs were only offered as a special set with an identical 556, and some dealers split them up and sold them. I was lucky when I found this one

 

[duotone]

I'm a do-it-yourselfer, and to be honest, though I wouldn't know where to start in putting a stock on my rifle, I would if I know what I was doing.... I used to take older steel framed mountain bikes, strip'em down, paint them and build single speed mountain bikes. People used to say crap about how stupid they were, but on the trail I'd kick their butts. Them and their $2000 full suspension shifting garbage, and I'd be laughing on the inside from start to finish.

Being a new-bie to firearms, and wanting to have something different than everyone else's gun, I say keep building them..

 

[RicosRevenge]

Rinky, you're stepping into territory that became hostile long ago with this fucking joketard mall ninja stuffing .22s into airsoft shells. This is "SNIPERS HIDE" dedicated to precision marksmanship not "AIRSOFT HIDE." I am 100% behind the comments of .22 clones being used as training tools. Hence I see a value to .22LR conversion uppers and even some of the fake AICS airsoft conversions for guys that shoot an AI platform. I have also seen some great craftsmanship displayed occassionally on unique builds. doofcon's crap doesn't qualify.

I will give defcon credit for one thing... he gets the award for the most retarded post of 2013:

im not in the military and im not training to kill babies. i shoot for fun and building these for my son when hes old enough to shoot with me.

who gives a shit what you think.

here comes all the bad ass internet commandos now

There's a whole lot of internet commandos on this board that would whoop your mall ninja ass on sight.

 

[defcon]

^
that babies thing was sarcasm.

its just funny how you easily get all riled up. im already used to all the shit talking from you guys.
its expected to get some ball busting in this forum

 

[defcon]

I'm a do-it-yourselfer, and to be honest, though I wouldn't know where to start in putting a stock on my rifle, I would if I know what I was doing.... I used to take older steel framed mountain bikes, strip'em down, paint them and build single speed mountain bikes. People used to say crap about how stupid they were, but on the trail I'd kick their butts. Them and their $2000 full suspension shifting garbage, and I'd be laughing on the inside from start to finish.

Being a new-bie to firearms, and wanting to have something different than everyone else's gun, I say keep building them..

PM me if you need some help on building your first one. I'm getting a used stock tomorrow and will be retrofitting a Savage MKII inside. I paid $70 for this one. I only had a dremel, drill press, and a power drill when I first started.

 

[Rinky]

Rinky, you're stepping into territory that became hostile long ago with this fucking joketard mall ninja stuffing .22s into airsoft shells. This is "SNIPERS HIDE" dedicated to precision marksmanship not "AIRSOFT HIDE." I am 100% behind the comments of .22 clones being used as training tools. Hence I see a value to .22LR conversion uppers and even some of the fake AICS airsoft conversions for guys that shoot an AI platform. I have also seen some great craftsmanship displayed occassionally on unique builds. doofcon's crap doesn't qualify.

I will give defcon credit for one thing... he gets the award for the most retarded post of 2013:

There's a whole lot of internet commandos on this board that would whoop your mall ninja ass on sight.

I was unaware of his past and had never seen such a thing done, the only reason i saw a reason to defend him was calling his projects lame. Them being new to me, they're creative and/or interesting.

 

[woogie_man]

I fail to see the difference between the airsoft aics builds and deacons. They are the same thing are they not??? And how many .22 conversions do you see for any of those rifles? And isn't part of the hide adapt and over come,and to push yourself and try new things? I see this all through the forums.

Again if you don't like them fuck off, you may not like them but he does. Let the man be and don't scrap on every post he makes.



I still like the star sl9.

 

[RicosRevenge]

I fail to see the difference between the airsoft aics builds and deacons. They are the same thing are they not??? And how many .22 conversions do you see for any of those rifles? And isn't part of the hide adapt and over come,and to push yourself and try new things? I see this all through the forums.

Again if you don't like them fuck off, you may not like them but he does. Let the man be and don't scrap on every post he makes.

No, they aren't the same and if you're too mentally challenged to see the difference then I can't help you.

It's no secret that I'm not a fan of people using a dremel and a plastic toy mated to a firearm which is why I practice what I preach and went with a Rem 40XB in a real AICS to mimic my centerfire. However, I am not blind to the fact that many do not have the means (or the spousal permission) to drop $2k+ without optics on a rimfire trainer. So I do see a value on AI shooters modifying airsoft bodies to use as a trainer with close to correct dimensions for muscle memory. I also see value in the purpose built .22 AR style rifles as well as the .22 conversions (such as Rinky posted) for the same reasons. "Deacons" toys are not trainers; they are not real works of art like a few true conversions that have been posted (some of the AI chassis conversions, an all metal SAW, etc... come to mind immediately - do a search for that SAW Rinky, it is bad ass) and I'm doubting that the plastic, sloppy JB Weld and dremeled toys are safe and they definitely do not increase accuracy or help with any type of "training" since he doesn't own any of the "real" weapons his barbie dolls are based off. So your "adapt and overcome" comment holds zero water.

Snipers Hide is for "The Serious Tactical Marksman" who is striving to shoot better. Defcon is neither serious, tactical or a marksman. He is a powder burner who likes to impress the camo-wearing teenagers at whatever the hell range he goes to. I will definitely not "let the little boy be" - he should be posting his crap on www.ImAMallNinja.com/forums not in a precision based forum.

Oh, and sorry Rinky - here is what you asked for - Rem 40XB, AI Chassis, Jewell trigger, Parker-Hale Bipod. Pic not up to date, the SS16X is off and replaced with a Burris Elite Tactical 5-15X:

 

[defcon]

No, they aren't the same and if you're too mentally challenged to see the difference then I can't help you.

It's no secret that I'm not a fan of people using a dremel and a plastic toy mated to a firearm which is why I practice what I preach and went with a Rem 40XB in a real AICS to mimic my centerfire. However, I am not blind to the fact that many do not have the means (or the spousal permission) to drop $2k+ without optics on a rimfire trainer. So I do see a value on AI shooters modifying airsoft bodies to use as a trainer with close to correct dimensions for muscle memory. I also see value in the purpose built .22 AR style rifles as well as the .22 conversions (such as Rinky posted) for the same reasons. "Deacons" toys are not trainers; they are not real works of art like a few true conversions that have been posted (some of the AI chassis conversions, an all metal SAW, etc... come to mind immediately - do a search for that SAW Rinky, it is bad ass) and I'm doubting that the plastic, sloppy JB Weld and dremeled toys are safe and they definitely do not increase accuracy or help with any type of "training" since he doesn't own any of the "real" weapons his barbie dolls are based off. So your "adapt and overcome" comment holds zero water.

Snipers Hide is for "The Serious Tactical Marksman" who is striving to shoot better. Defcon is neither serious, tactical or a marksman. He is a powder burner who likes to impress the camo-wearing teenagers at whatever the hell range he goes to. I will definitely not "let the little boy be" - he should be posting his crap on www.ImAMallNinja.com/forums not in a precision based forum.

is that why your panties are all up in a bunch because you think theyre made of $20 cheap plastic? so you belittle me because i dont own a $1k - $2k milling/lathe machine to do my conversions. $40 dremel can do a lot of things. JB weld is nothing. It can be sanded down, painted over and/or reapplied. Big deal. The .22 action is secure, tight and safe.

why do you keep insisting im building these as trainer rifles? theyre NOT trainers. theyre just simple mall ninja tacticool fun rifles for plinking. i can easily turn some of these conversions into precision rifles just like those AICS builds. those .22 AICS builds are no different than my builds. plastic is plastic. metal is metal. i picked up my balls and took the risk a step further on builds that havent been done before.

have you ever held/felt the airsoft versions in person of a Barrett M82, M99, M200 Cheytac, SAW, M60 PIG, M14 EBR, M60E4, BAR, L85? im really interested in your answer. if not, go visit a local airsoft store and check it out. theyre not made of $20 cheap plastic you see at walmart. they all retail more than $300-$400 a piece. more than half of my conversions are made of FULL METAL and weigh more than 10lbs. Barrett M82 weighs 13lbs. Barrett M99 weighs 15lbs. Cheytac weighs 17lbs. My 2 SAW's, M60 PIG, M60E4, M14 EBR weighs over 10lbs. The plastic versions that I do have are the SAME plastic skin on the WELLS G96 AICS which are thick and decent, yet i dont see you giving them shit.

i live in Commiefornia where Feinstein and our shitless senators ban shit because of cosmetic evil features. there are plenty of guns Californians cannot own. just put yourself in my shoes looking down on a list of centerfire rifles we cant own due to the 1994 assault weapons ban. you wouldnt want to live in our state. ill tell you right now i cant afford a real $7k Barrett, $10k Cheytac, $60k M60 PIG, $30k SAW, $5k BAR, or any other high ticket NFA items which is why i make these dream rifles of centerfire clones using the closest 1:1 scale airsoft replica (preferrably in full metal). i dont have to put up with that AWB list and i dont have to spend a fortune if i just want the feel/look of the real centerfire and get the benefit of shooting a rimfire caliber.

the past month ive been shooting at 200-300 yard steel targets with these airsoft conversions so dont assume that im not serious about precision. im sure you dont want to believe it but i am working on precision and its fun trying to nail those 200+ yard long distance targets with a .22.

i have a real AR15 and Saiga 12 for now and i barely shoot them because im having way more tacticool mall ninja fun with my .22's. btw, i get more dads with their young kids wanting to shoot my airsoft conversion and i bring in new and scared first time shooters with these .22 conversions to the range and help support our 2A. i even get police officers, a sheriff, veterans and active military come up to me with great reactions because it reminds them of their service rifle. more positive stuff and thanks i get in person from these people than the shit i get on the internet.

 

[defcon]

do these look like cheap $20 plastic?

oh look metal. lots of metal. oh look the 2 SAW's are also made of metal.

 

[defcon]

oh no plastic! it must be unsafe. give me break Rico. we get that youre not a fan. keep it to yourself next time

Both of these have an aluminum chassis.

 

[RicosRevenge]

I don't need to keep it to myself... they are gay ass fakes like a Fiero wearing Ferrari clothes plastic or metal and it isn't like they have been hand-crafted. All show, no go. If you want to see me get on some of the AICS fakes; it doesn't take much looking. But again, I give them a little credit because it is for a purpose.

I am glad that you are finally starting to shoot for real instead of just inaccurately burning ammo. Maybe the real shooters on this board are starting to get through to you? If you are able to build a precision rig, then do it. That's what this board is about and that's why myself and others like me give you the shit we do.

 

[crowsniper1]

 

[marduk185]

all these 22's look tight yo, but you gotta have bank if you plan on gettin any mythological ammo for them. unicorn shit rite ther

 

[woogie_man]

So we should run eerything past you Rico to make sure it is ok before posting conversions of any kind? And if they are not of "true blood" or over "$2k" then they don't deserve to be here. Correct.

He is having fun, and has posted multiple times that he is just doing it for fun, Hey congrats that you can spend that kind of money on a .22 and not have to worry about it. But the rest of us can't get the nice things and have to compromise with a few things. As long as he is being safe adn making sure things are built strong and wont break then let him have fun. Who are you to tell people that their hobby is crap? You sound like the leaders of this country telling us what we can and can't have in the way of guns.

 

[RicosRevenge]

Do you even read anything or are you incapable of comprehension?

 

[defcon]

all these 22's look tight yo, but you gotta have bank if you plan on gettin any mythological ammo for them. unicorn shit rite ther

i got the unicorn ammo. running about 9k deep right now.

 

[woogie_man]

Yup comprehension is just fine. Your pissed that you spent $2k or more on your trainer, and others are spending a fraction of that to make something that looks almost like yours. Who cares, you can afford the actual high priced stocks and rifles, while some of us can't. Yes tub out noses in it that you can afford such things....and honestly good for you. But for those of us that don't have that kind of disposable income this is as close as we can get. Is it 100% true and real...nope but nobody is claiming that it is.

If you don't like it then fine, move on and don't make a mess of things. Do you know defcon or any of us....nope, so how can you know our skill and our shooting ability? You don't know if we are seriouss about this or just having fun with it all. Take a chill pill and a deep breath and move on. Defcon needs to keep building these because they are fun and a great way yo get people talking, and into the shooting sport, especially with the younger crowds.

 

[mr2.0]

I don't need to keep it to myself... they are gay ass fakes like a Fiero wearing Ferrari clothes plastic or metal and it isn't like they have been hand-crafted. All show, no go. If you want to see me get on some of the AICS fakes; it doesn't take much looking. But again, I give them a little credit because it is for a purpose.

I am glad that you are finally starting to shoot for real instead of just inaccurately burning ammo. Maybe the real shooters on this board are starting to get through to you? If you are able to build a precision rig, then do it. That's what this board is about and that's why myself and others like me give you the shit we do.

Hahaha +1, I'm too, tired of seeing Defcon's shits all over on every fucken forum. Don't give me wrong Defcon, you got some skills there, but I'm tired of scrolling down the page and half of your shits are on there over and over again

 

[defcon]

Hahaha +1, I'm too, tired of seeing Defcon's shits all over on every fucken forum. Don't give me wrong Defcon, you got some skills there, but I'm tired of scrolling down the page and half of your shits are on there over and over again

lol what else am i supposed to do? its a new thread and i post pics that are related to the OP's request. not my fault i have over 30+ builds. im planning to take the other 15 builds in 1 shot and compile them all in 1 picture so i dont have to take up half the screen.

 

[TheGonz]

New Rule #1
If u have more than 7 22s that have been modified then u cannot post on this thread
New Rule Exemption
If u do have more than 7 22s that have been modified, BUT less that 43, then aforementioned rule does not apply
New Rule Exemption #2
If u have more that 43 22s that have been modified, but less than 3 center fire rifles/pistols and live in NE, then rule #1 holds, but can post no more than (3) replies to thread