Night Vision Linning up a Helmet mounted PVS-14 with a red dot???

[Creature]

Is it totally necessary to mount a PVS-14 behind a red dot when hunting or would it be stable enough on a helmet mount to line up behind the red dot? I will probably use a IR laser at some point but am curious about use with red dot/helmet right now.

The reason I'm wondering is the housing(AB Night Vision NVM-2AA) that I'm looking at can't be used with a J-arm or weapons mount at the same time. Only one or the other.

 

[Delta4-3]

It can be done but it is really hard with a standard height sight. If nothing else, you'll be doing yourself a favor by spending $170 on an IR laser, or making one from a Vis laser. I prefer to wear the 14 on my left eye, and look through the sight with mynright eye if I can't use a laser. This super-imposes the red dot onto the image you are seeing through the night vision and keeps you from hitting yout NV.

 

[Creature]

It can be done but it is really hard with a standard height sight. If nothing else, you'll be doing yourself a favor by spending $170 on an IR laser, or making one from a Vis laser. I prefer to wear the 14 on my left eye, and look through the sight with mynright eye if I can't use a laser. This super-imposes the red dot onto the image you are seeing through the night vision and keeps you from hitting yout NV.

So my best bet is probably to forgo the helmet mount all together until I get an IR laser to use? I supposed I could just try and get a QD mount for the device and then hold it while traveling to my hunting location and then attach to the rifle. Urgh.... what a PITA.

How does aiming with a IR laser and helmet mount work compared to aiming through a red dot with a weapon mount? How do you hold the rifle while aiming with the IR laser?

As you can tell, I have a lot to learn. I appreciate the help.

 

[Fongman]

So my best bet is probably to forgo the helmet mount all together until I get an IR laser to use? I supposed I could just try and get a QD mount for the device and then hold it while traveling to my hunting location and then attach to the rifle. Urgh.... what a PITA.

How does aiming with a IR laser and helmet mount work compared to aiming through a red dot with a weapon mount? How do you hold the rifle while aiming with the IR laser?

As you can tell, I have a lot to learn. I appreciate the help.

You don't have to forgo the helmet. It's great to navigate to your hunting location or to scout/stalk your game with it mounted to your helmet. Otherwise your pointing your weapon at everything you want to look at. Once you're in your FFP you can transfer the NOD back to your weapon mount.

To engage with helmet mounted NOD and IR laser, you can shoulder the weapon and forgo the the cheek weld or tuck the buttstock under your arm which makes for a good point of contact and a steady position.

 

[Delta4-3]

You don't have to buy an expensive ir laser right out of the gate either, I'd get a cheap one, which will cost the same, if not less, than the mount to mount it to your weapon. Unless you are using the military's old abortion of a device they call a weapons mount.

 

[Phantom223]

For some folks its hard to line everything up sight to helmet mounted NV mono but for me its very,very easy and I can shoot really well using a helmet mounted pvs-14 and eotech on my rifle combo. That said I like a IR laser better overall I mainly use the D2 or ITAL but I have been testing running a CMR-201 IR I gave $199 for online and for the money its been pretty impressive so far.

 

[Creature]

For some folks its hard to line everything up sight to helmet mounted NV mono but for me its very,very easy and I can shoot really well using a helmet mounted pvs-14 and eotech on my rifle combo. That said I like a IR laser better overall I mainly use the D2 or ITAL but I have been testing running a CMR-201 IR I gave $199 for online and for the money its been pretty impressive so far.

Wow, that's pretty sweet phantom. I'll probably get one of those.

 

[Phantom223]

I think you will like the CMR IR laser plus you can co-sight the laser matching your NV red dot sight and have it zeroed without firing a rd .

 

[Delta4-3]

I've got a UNi-MAX IR that I gave $170 for and it's pretty goor for the money.

 

[AlanG]

You don't have to forgo the helmet. It's great to navigate to your hunting location or to scout/stalk your game with it mounted to your helmet. Otherwise your pointing your weapon at everything you want to look at. Once you're in your FFP you can transfer the NOD back to your weapon mount.

To engage with helmet mounted NOD and IR laser, you can shoulder the weapon and forgo the the cheek weld or tuck the buttstock under your arm which makes for a good point of contact and a steady position.

I like your tag line.

 

[Mortalpawn]

What you want is a high mount for your red dot - specifically a NVG high mount. The exact type depends you which red dot you are using:
https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2019/07/26/friday-night-lights-night-vision-optic-risers/

I ran a high mounted aimpoint micro at both the TNVC basic and advanced course and it was no problem aiming the red dot from a helmet mounted PVS-14 with no laser. The only thing you have to adjust for is the slightly higher offsets at close range, and getting used to seeing two dots as the red dot and your laser look the same under NVG, so you have to gain some experience in which one is which at various ranges.

 

[AlanG]

What you want is a high mount for your red dot - specifically a NVG high mount. The exact type depends you which red dot you are using:
https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2019/07/26/friday-night-lights-night-vision-optic-risers/

I ran a high mounted aimpoint micro at both the TNVC basic and advanced course and it was no problem aiming the red dot from a helmet mounted PVS-14 with no laser. The only thing you have to adjust for is the slightly higher offsets at close range, and getting use to seeing two dots as the red dot and your laser look the same under NVG, so you have to gain some experience in which one is which at various ranges.

Thanks for the link and the education it provided. That info resolved several problems I hadn’t realized I was going to have - the best type of intel.