loaded stainless M1A in EBR Vs. Lmt MWS SS 16"

[Tangodown911]

Re: loaded stainless M1A in EBR Vs. Lmt MWS SS 16"

This is really going down hill.

 

[sinister]

Re: loaded stainless M1A in EBR Vs. Lmt MWS SS 16"

Springfield Armory M1As (Devine, Texas; Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania; and Geneseo, Illinois) are built on commercial castings. Very good and durable, but not forged as per MILSPEC.

M1As are not in US inventory.

Both commercial castings and GI forgings can fail:

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> The armorers at fort benning would have loved to have the semi auto receiver for the M21 but money was cut before they got them. </div></div>

Bullshit.

 

[MK14 SEI]

Re: loaded stainless M1A in EBR Vs. Lmt MWS SS 16"

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sinister</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Springfield Armory M1As (Devine, Texas; Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania; and Geneseo, Illinois) are built on commercial scastings.
Very good and durable, but not forged as per MILSPEC.

M1As are not in US inventory.
</div></div>

True and true.

 

[BCP]

Re: loaded stainless M1A in EBR Vs. Lmt MWS SS 16"

Merry Christmas all! Going shooting!

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: EBRguy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
The 223 can be pretty bad but 308 is a double load compared to a 223.
</div></div>

They have a similar PSI spec for both so I imagine a 223 catastrophic would be on par with a 308 give or take.

I watched a 30-06 garand go, it was firing handloads purchased from Uncle Jim-bob at a gunshow. It literally shattered.

The worst catastrophic failure I have ever seen was a 300 weatherby magnum, the bolt came back and hit the shooter in the face. He had to be taken to the hospital (obviously). IIRC it was an older rifle from the 60's and the bolt lugs went. Just something to think about when you decide to keep shoveling powder into that case past the book max.

 

[PoserHater]

Re: loaded stainless M1A in EBR Vs. Lmt MWS SS 16"

Thanks, Sinister, for throwing BS flag on EBRguy (AKA "Poser")!!!!

 

[PoserHater]

Re: loaded stainless M1A in EBR Vs. Lmt MWS SS 16"

Well, Edgewater, looks like your sidekick EBRguy failed to enlighten us with his wisdom. You might want to check his credentials again!!! Maybe EBRguy should have used Al Gore's internet to look up some info on a topic before enlightening the forum members!!!! I guess that is why he is the only one priveledged enough to know so much history about A Hill.......

 

[MK14 SEI]

Re: loaded stainless M1A in EBR Vs. Lmt MWS SS 16"

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: EBRguy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

M1a's are cheaper to build...
</div></div>

This has not been my experience.

 

[Edgewater]

Re: loaded stainless M1A in EBR Vs. Lmt MWS SS 16"

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: PoserHater</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Well, Edgewater, looks like your sidekick EBRgay failed to enlighten us with his wisdom. You might want to check his credentials again!!! Losers!!! Maybe EBRgay should have used Al Gore's internet to look up some info on a topic before enlightening the forum members!!!! I guess that is why he is the only one priveledged enough to know so much history about A Hill....... </div></div>

I refrain to comment due to respect for this forum and the op's thread.

 

[sinister]

Re: loaded stainless M1A in EBR Vs. Lmt MWS SS 16"

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Another point in considering your choice would be catastrophic failures of the m1a/m14 or a 308 ar.

I have not been exposed to a massive failure in the 308. Only heard tells.
</div></div>

http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=799662&nt=2&page=1

http://thegunzone.com/m1akb.html

 

[MK14 SEI]

Re: loaded stainless M1A in EBR Vs. Lmt MWS SS 16"

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sinister</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Another point in considering your choice would be catastrophic failures of the m1a/m14 or a 308 ar.

I have not been exposed to a massive failure in the 308. Only heard tells.
</div></div>

http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=799662&nt=2&page=1 </div></div>

Wow!, the gunsmith cracked the receiver... glad the shooter was OK.

 

[PoserHater]

Re: loaded stainless M1A in EBR Vs. Lmt MWS SS 16"

How convenient of you Edgewater! You didn't seem to want to refrain from comment earlier. Now that your poser sidekick has been slammed, you want to refrain from commenting! You two are such clowns! I am glad I called you two out!

 

[JeffLebowski]

Re: loaded stainless M1A in EBR Vs. Lmt MWS SS 16"

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: EBRguy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">[
The M1a has won numerous US military shooting matches. The Springfield M1a has taken all the M1s awards in all the matches. </div></div>

Odd. You don't remember the matches where the AMU showed up with M16s and kicked the shit out of the Marines M14s?

How many matches have they won recently (M14s/M1s)? Your statement is like saying "The Krag-Jorgenson has won many matches." Truthful but misleading or misled.

 

[BCP]

Re: loaded stainless M1A in EBR Vs. Lmt MWS SS 16"

You guys need to give it a rest, it's Christmas!

 

[jwsnydes]

Re: loaded stainless M1A in EBR Vs. Lmt MWS SS 16"

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BCP</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You guys need to give it a rest, it's Christmas! </div></div>

For real. I read this entire thread and learned nothing.

 

[MK14 SEI]

Re: loaded stainless M1A in EBR Vs. Lmt MWS SS 16"

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sinister</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Another point in considering your choice would be catastrophic failures of the m1a/m14 or a 308 ar.

I have not been exposed to a massive failure in the 308. Only heard tells.
</div></div>

http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=799662&nt=2&page=1

http://thegunzone.com/m1akb.html

</div></div>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">the failure of the M-14 barrel was the result of a poorly formed microstructure in the steel.</div></div>

 

[PoserHater]

Re: loaded stainless M1A in EBR Vs. Lmt MWS SS 16"

Edgewater:

If you mistakenly confused "EBRguy" with "EBRbuilder" I will no longer make any negative posts about you. Your dis-association from EBRguy re-establishes your credibility. It is very obvious to every member in the forum that EBRguy does not have his facts straight.....this has been mentioned several times.

 

[PoserHater]

Re: loaded stainless M1A in EBR Vs. Lmt MWS SS 16"

A guy that suggests I have no respect and discipline telling another member to take up "ball licking"? Why dont you use Al Gore's internet to educate yourself on the M1/M14? Better yet, why dont you get some kind of formal firearms training so you can learn practical shooting drills or the correct history behind your weapon system. You know, had you used Al Gore's internet, you may have supported the extremely broad statements you made in your posts, instead of leaving forum members questioning the credibility of your posts. I believe the universities teach their students how to properly use the internet, as well as other sources, to obtain information and support points within documents. Obviously, you didnt attend a university. Didnt they teach these skills in high school as well? Oh, nevermind, you dont need to look up information. You already know it all!!!!

 

[Tangodown911]

Re: loaded stainless M1A in EBR Vs. Lmt MWS SS 16"

Ebrguy,

I don't know you and you are a new member so why would I try to run you through the ringer like poser hater is doing. You have not said anything derogatory towards me until now. I can assure you that I am not poser hater. I have one account here and that is all I need. If I need to tell you or anyone else something I sure as shit wouldn't waste my time creating another username to fuck with you. I would just come out and say it. No multiple personalities here. I dont know what you are smoking but poser haters posts don't read anything like mine. Not sure what you are talking about when you say I already knew what rifle I wanted to buy then I created this thread..??????WTF??? Now you are Nostradamous???? My intention was to find out what was better by asking those who had experience with both platforms and go from there. I don't know how much shit you own or what you buy but most of us can agree that a mistake in the gun business can cost money. So it's best to make an educated/informed buy. I would think you can agree.

Look, obviously you have pist off poser hater and he's roasting you...not my problem so don't pull me into that. Before you go adding 2 and 2 together trying to call me out for someone elses doing you should have PM'ed me.

 

[marduk185]

Re: loaded stainless M1A in EBR Vs. Lmt MWS SS 16"

m1a works better on ps3 but id use ar on xbox...

really tho, get a fal

 

[BCP]

Re: loaded stainless M1A in EBR Vs. Lmt MWS SS 16"

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: marduk185</div><div class="ubbcode-body">m1a works better on ps3 but id use ar on xbox...

really tho, get a fal </div></div>

I'd take the laser beam firing barret 50cal my retarded/bisexual/cannibal/sniper girl has in Fallout:New Vegas over all of those.

 

[silver78]

Re: loaded stainless M1A in EBR Vs. Lmt MWS SS 16"

Well I stopped reading carefully when it started to get into the personal attacks, but I will provide my experience when deciding between an AR-10 (or AR type platform) and an M1A which I believe is the OP's question. I made my decision in the 2002-2003 time frame. I was interested in an accurate semi-auto rifle that had more power than my 5.56 AR15. My choices were the Armalite AR-10 or the M1A. The choices were a lot more limited back then. the only other option was the Knights, but it was just too expensive for me. I recall speaking with Clint McKee (the owner of Fulton Armory). At the time Clint offered a lot of accurized M1As but no AR platform 308s. He listened to what I was looking for and in the end he said something like"

"I build a great M1A - but if you want maximum accuracy for dollars spent, buy the AR-10. Of course it will never be as beautiful as a classic walnut and steel M1A but I think it will be more in line with what you want."

I will never forget this conversation because he gave up a possible sale - an honset answer that was not in his financial interest. So I bought the AR-10. I hope this helps you decide.

As an aside, if I were looking for more power than a 5.56 today, I would look at the 6.8 as an alternative. It was not available when I selected my 308. It's not as powerful as the 308 but much more powerful than the 5.56 and it keeps the AR-15 platform. This is just me and I'm not a "sniper" or any other kind of "operator" or professional. To me a long shot is 200 yards and I doubt I would take a shot longer than this. I just appreciate good quality accurate rifles and I have found that there are some very intelligent posters here so I read a lot and post a little. I would think other new members could learn from the old timers too if they posted less and read more.

 

[MidwestPX]

Re: loaded stainless M1A in EBR Vs. Lmt MWS SS 16"

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: silver78</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Well I stopped reading carefully when it started to get into the personal attacks, but I will provide my experience when deciding between an AR-10 (or AR type platform) and an M1A which I believe is the OP's question. I made my decision in the 2002-2003 time frame. I was interested in an accurate semi-auto rifle that had more power than my 5.56 AR15. My choices were the Armalite AR-10 or the M1A. The choices were a lot more limited back then. the only other option was the Knights, but it was just too expensive for me. I recall speaking with Clint McKee (the owner of Fulton Armory). At the time Clint offered a lot of accurized M1As but no AR platform 308s. He listened to what I was looking for and in the end he said something like"

"I build a great M1A - but if you want maximum accuracy for dollars spent, buy the AR-10. Of course it will never be as beautiful as a classic walnut and steel M1A but I think it will be more in line with what you want."

I will never forget this conversation because he gave up a possible sale - an honset answer that was not in his financial interest. So I bought the AR-10. I hope this helps you decide.

As an aside, if I were looking for more power than a 5.56 today, I would look at the 6.8 as an alternative. It was not available when I selected my 308. It's not as powerful as the 308 but much more powerful than the 5.56 and it keeps the AR-15 platform. This is just me and I'm not a "sniper" or any other kind of "operator" or professional. To me a long shot is 200 yards and I doubt I would take a shot longer than this. I just appreciate good quality accurate rifles and I have found that there are some very intelligent posters here so I read a lot and post a little. I would think other new members could learn from the old timers too if they posted less and read more.</div></div>

If we're throwing 6mm calibers in an AR15 platform out there, skip the 6.8 altogether and get the 6.5 Grendel. Both are expensive to shoot but the Grendel exhibits superior external and terminal ballistics relative to the 6.8.