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Join the contest SubscribeGive them a call after 4pm MT. Brian more than likely will tell you where the next batch is headed/ETAAnyone know of a distributor that has 308 RH Fuzions in stock? I've emailed everyone I could get a hold of with no luck thus far.
Anyone know of a distributor that has 308 RH Fuzions in stock? I've emailed everyone I could get a hold of with no luck thus far.
Those are some bold words. Care to expound? I would be interested in examples of how they aren’t as refined or shown signs of inconsistency.Any reason in particular that you must go with the LP Fuzion? Just curious, because while they are definitely badass actions, they are essentially a close copy of the Impact 737/NBK.. just not as refined... or as consistent... or have as good of a reputation... for the same amount of money. Finding an Impact action in stock somewhere is about as easy as finding a crackhead at a gas station. Just my $0.02
what in the sam hilljust not as refined... or as consistent...
Any reason in particular that you must go with the LP Fuzion? Just curious, because while they are definitely badass actions, they are essentially a close copy of the Impact 737/NBK.. just not as refined... or as consistent... or have as good of a reputation... for the same amount of money. Finding an Impact action in stock somewhere is about as easy as finding a crackhead at a gas station. Just my $0.02
Let me preface this by saying that I am in no way trying to dunk on Lone Peak here, or that I am some Impact fanboy. There was a time when I wanted a Fuzion more than I wanted my next breath. But if you do some research you’ll find that the facts speak for themselves. The #1 action used in PRS by far is Impact, and has been for a long time now. Ask the folks at Altus shooting solutions what they believe is the best action on the market. Ask respected gunsmiths like Travis Stevens of TS Customs which action he would choose between the two. GA Precision moved their flagship shop rifles over to Impact actions. I understand that my opinion is just as heavy as anyone else’s, but what about the people who do this for a living? I believe they know what they’re talking about, and when they all say the same things, it must just be a coincidence.. Impact is at the top, and nobody is doing it better than them. All the respect in the world to Lone Peak, they really are great at what they do and make a great action. But not one of you here can convince me that Lone Peak does it better than Impact Precision.Those are some bold words. Care to expound? I would be interested in examples of how they aren’t as refined or shown signs of inconsistency.
just not as refined... or as consistent...
Debunk it then.Well, this is just incorrect information.
I don't have a dog in this fight but really nothing about what you said is debunkable because it's all subjective or vague.Debunk it then.
None of that answered the two problems you brought up…not as refined and supposed inconsistencies.Let me preface this by saying that I am in no way trying to dunk on Lone Peak here, or that I am some Impact fanboy. There was a time when I wanted a Fuzion more than I wanted my next breath. But if you do some research you’ll find that the facts speak for themselves. The #1 action used in PRS by far is Impact, and has been for a long time now. Ask the folks at Altus shooting solutions what they believe is the best action on the market. Ask respected gunsmiths like Travis Stevens of TS Customs which action he would choose between the two. GA Precision moved their flagship shop rifles over to Impact actions. I understand that my opinion is just as heavy as anyone else’s, but what about the people who do this for a living? I believe they know what they’re talking about, and when they all say the same things, it must just be a coincidence.. Impact is at the top, and nobody is doing it better than them. All the respect in the world to Lone Peak, they really are great at what they do and make a great action. But not one of you here can convince me that Lone Peak does it better than Impact Precision.
Travis also does the majority of his builds on lone peaks..Let me preface this by saying that I am in no way trying to dunk on Lone Peak here, or that I am some Impact fanboy. There was a time when I wanted a Fuzion more than I wanted my next breath. But if you do some research you’ll find that the facts speak for themselves. The #1 action used in PRS by far is Impact, and has been for a long time now. Ask the folks at Altus shooting solutions what they believe is the best action on the market. Ask respected gunsmiths like Travis Stevens of TS Customs which action he would choose between the two. GA Precision moved their flagship shop rifles over to Impact actions. I understand that my opinion is just as heavy as anyone else’s, but what about the people who do this for a living? I believe they know what they’re talking about, and when they all say the same things, it must just be a coincidence.. Impact is at the top, and nobody is doing it better than them. All the respect in the world to Lone Peak, they really are great at what they do and make a great action. But not one of you here can convince me that Lone Peak does it better than Impact Precision.
He is one of LP biggest smiths by volume.Travis also does the majority of his builds on lone peaks..![]()
Yup, almost all his builds are LP, but he does use some impacts. And he has recommended LP to me more then once.He is one of LP biggest smiths by volume.
Heard that from travis himself at a match in Montana last year.
Reliable info and this thread have parted ways.
“I better have some real world data to back it up..” Or what? It’s my opinion.None of that answered the two problems you brought up…not as refined and supposed inconsistencies.
Please use examples.
I’m not saying LP is better than impact, or any other action for that matter. But when you start saying a custom action is inconsistent and not as refined you better have some real world data to back it up. Not just “because PRS guys use impact”
Show me where I said that I use an Impact just because of PRS. I also do in fact have personal experience with Lone Peak. I’ve owned both a Razor and a Fuzion.. that’s how I manage to have an opinion on the matter. What else you got Stan?I use Hunt’s ketchup instead of Heinz because the top PRS competitors use Hunt’s.
I also have no personal experience with Heinz.
-Stan
Yup, almost all his builds are LP, but he does use some impacts. And he has recommended LP to me more then once.
And this proves what exactly? That his customers want an LP action for their build so he does it? Ok.. Travis built me a rifle just a few months ago, and I actually wanted it built off an LP Fuzion Alpine port cut myself (was on sale) and he talked me out of it in favor of an NBK due to the inconsistency and overall quality issues he has experienced. I’d argue that he did at one point, but not anymore.Travis also does the majority of his builds on lone peaks..![]()
I think saying that a manufactured piece of equipment is inconsistent is why people think you’re a moron. The word inconsistent when talking about something manufactured implies they’re commonly out of stated spec/tolerance or poorly manufactured and that’s just not true. I am an impact fanboy but the differences between the two aren’t noticeable and lone peak is definitely as nice.Show me where I said that I use an Impact just because of PRS. I also do in fact have personal experience with Lone Peak. I’ve owned both a Razor and a Fuzion.. that’s how I manage to have an opinion on the matter. What else you got Stan?
Again, show me where I said that Lone Peaks are inconsistent, out of spec, have poor tolerances, or are poorly manufactured and I will gladly show myself the door.I think saying that a manufactured piece of equipment is inconsistent is why people think you’re a moron. The word inconsistent when talking about something manufactured implies they’re commonly out of stated spec/tolerance or poorly manufactured and that’s just not true. I am an impact fanboy but the differences between the two aren’t noticeable and lone peak is definitely as nice.
lol I’m not mad at all. Sounds like we may have struck a cord with you though.“I better have some real world data to back it up..” Or what? It’s my opinion.
You’re wiping away tears and furiously typing on a keyboard over a comment I made saying that LP’s are just not as refined/consistent as IP’s. This would be different if I claimed that Lone Peak was just dog shit. It’s not that serious, but the real world data shows that Impacts are much more prevalent and have achieved so much more than any other action has, period. So tell me.. Why is that? Must just be a coincidence! You guys are expecting me to pull out a chart of every action LP ever made and break it all down for you, and if I don’t do that then i’m wrong and you’re right and that’s the end of it.
Tell me, what do you stand to gain by trying to prove me wrong here? I gave a guy my 2 cents about an action he was interested in, and here everyone is with their torches and pitchforks raising hell about it. You’re allowed to disagree.. but all you can say to me is “prove it” when you know I can’t possibly do that. Just like how you can’t possibly say that Impact isn’t the best at what they do. You just can’t right now.
I truly do not see how i’m calling out Lone Peak in any way. All I said was that Impacts are not only easier to find, but in MY OPINION and MY EXPERIENCE more consistent, and more refined, for the same amount of money. I have owned both brands, and spoken with so many people who live eat and breathe precision rifles about the two. My findings have ALWAYS been that Impact makes a slightly better product. In no way am I trying to dunk on Lone Peak. I stated that in the very beginning, and it seems to have fallen on deaf ears. Was just trying to give the guy some advice by giving my opinion on 2 similar products. One he could wait for, and the other he could have now. It just so happens that the one he is choosing to wait for is the one I don’t like as much, but it’s still a great choice. Goodbye everybody.lol I’m not mad at all. Sounds like we may have struck a cord with you though.
Nothing wrong with an opinion. But obviously yours is lacking a little common sense if you yourself can’t prove why you believe what you believe.
If it was something as simple as aesthetics or features, that would be one thing, but you are calling out a well-known, major manufacturer for inconsistencies in their action.
The whole point of my original comment was to say if you were going to post things like that on a public forum, about any action, you should probably know what you’re talking about.
But it sounds like you don’t and you’re just spewing random shit.
Any reason in particular that you must go with the LP Fuzion? Just curious, because while they are definitely badass actions, they are essentially a close copy of the Impact 737/NBK.. just not as refined... or as consistent... or have as good of a reputation... for the same amount of money. Finding an Impact action in stock somewhere is about as easy as finding a crackhead at a gas station. Just my $0.02
Again, that’s fine. Your opinion. Some may prefer impact. Some may prefer LP. Some may prefer something else.I truly do not see how i’m calling out Lone Peak in any way. All I said was that Impacts are not only easier to find, but in MY OPINION and MY EXPERIENCE more consistent, and more refined, for the same amount of money. I have owned both brands, and spoken with so many people who live eat and breathe precision rifles about the two. My findings have ALWAYS been that Impact makes a slightly better product. In no way am I trying to dunk on Lone Peak. I stated that in the very beginning, and it seems to have fallen on deaf ears. Was just trying to give the guy some advice by giving my opinion on 2 similar products. One he could wait for, and the other he could have now. It just so happens that the one he is choosing to wait for is the one I don’t like as much, but it’s still a great choice. Goodbye everybody.
I literally just gave you the answer to your question, it’s just not good enough for you. I’ve owned both, and the Impacts Ive had were better than the LP’s. I’ve also gathered opinions from other people in the community, who I’ve already named earlier, who all sided with Impact. I also added in some other things such as the percentage of top performers in PRS using Impacts, but was ridiculed for doing so.. so I defended myself. Any other questions I can answer for you?Again, that’s fine. Your opinion. Some may prefer impact. Some may prefer LP. Some may prefer something else.
Back to the original comment. In your experience, what exactly makes them more “consistent” and refined? That’s all I asked. Simple question.
For some reason, you weren’t able to answer those questions and became defensive.
How? In what ways?the Impacts Ive had were better than the LP’s
I’ll just say I run LP actions and my buddies all run Impacts. Whenever they run my rifle they all say the LP are a tad smoother.I guess as a complete aside I'll ask. From a PURELY bolt opening/pull/closing standpoint which do you guys prefer? Whenever I do another build in the future I'll be between those two options and may as well ask now.
Please don’t derail my ketchup discussion with rifle talk. I am here to learn. Thank you.Show me where I said that I use an Impact just because of PRS. I also do in fact have personal experience with Lone Peak. I’ve owned both a Razor and a Fuzion.. that’s how I manage to have an opinion on the matter. What else you got Stan?
I have never fondled an impact. But I have run a lone peak fuzion and it was the smoothest action I’ve ever experienced.I guess as a complete aside I'll ask. From a PURELY bolt opening/pull/closing standpoint which do you guys prefer? Whenever I do another build in the future I'll be between those two options and may as well ask now.
From a PURELY bolt opening/pull/closing standpoint which do you guys prefer?
Debunk it then.
Let me preface this by saying that I am in no way trying to dunk on Lone Peak here, or that I am some Impact fanboy. There was a time when I wanted a Fuzion more than I wanted my next breath. But if you do some research you’ll find that the facts speak for themselves. The #1 action used in PRS by far is Impact, and has been for a long time now. Ask the folks at Altus shooting solutions what they believe is the best action on the market. Ask respected gunsmiths like Travis Stevens of TS Customs which action he would choose between the two. GA Precision moved their flagship shop rifles over to Impact actions. I understand that my opinion is just as heavy as anyone else’s, but what about the people who do this for a living? I believe they know what they’re talking about, and when they all say the same things, it must just be a coincidence.. Impact is at the top, and nobody is doing it better than them. All the respect in the world to Lone Peak, they really are great at what they do and make a great action. But not one of you here can convince me that Lone Peak does it better than Impact Precision.
About the same... I think Lone Peak Arms was founded in 2014, Impact was 2015?Lone Peak has been around for as long and possibly longer than Impact.
They weren't alone, a few other smiths dropped them. Tangential, but didn't Defiance bring some of their prices back down?GAP changed after a huge price increase and possibility of Defiance shutting its doors, so let's not pretend that didn't have something to do with it.
Clayton Smith not selling Caprocks anymore?They did in the past, but currently do not.
I hope so. Need them to stay competitive. Competition drives innovation.Tangential, but didn't Defiance bring some of their prices back down?
Damn, I never thought that stating my personal findings and opinions on a gun forum would get so many feelings hurt. What do you stand to gain by trying to make my opinion inferior to yours? The answer is nothing.. you’ll get nothing and you’ll do nothing, and that’s that. You won’t get an apology from me for what I said.All the measurements of both actions are just as consistent as the other. Lone Peak has been around for as long and possibly longer than Impact. You'll find almost no complaints anywhere about Lone Peak....invalidating the "reputation" part. And in the hunting world, Lone Peak is more popular than Impact by a good margin.
Your statements are purely anecdotal and almost irresponsible. As you presented them as statements of fact and not opinion.
It's also pretty hard to "debunk" completely anecdotal statements that you have zero data to back up, except "I owned a couple."
lol why are you back here?Damn, I never thought that stating my personal findings and opinions on a gun forum would get so many feelings hurt. What do you stand to gain by trying to make my opinion inferior to yours? The answer is nothing.. you’ll get nothing and you’ll do nothing, and that’s that. You won’t get an apology from me for what I said.