Lone Survivor

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#1
Last night I went and saw Lone Survivor and was really impressed with the movie. I didn't read the book but watched a interview of the Lone Survivor and he said the movie did a good job recreating what happened but did change some things. After all it is a movie. My hat goes off to him and his fallen brothers. I got choked up in a few spots in the movie. Anyways what did you guys think of the movie if you have watched it already and if you haven't I highly recommend you go see it.
 
#3
I saw it and enjoyed it. Hollywood changed a couple things for no real reason. I guess trying to make it "more dramatic" as if it wasnt dramatic enough.

I had one major gripe with it though. No mention of Lt. Murphy winning the Medal of Honor. Its this countries highest honor and you cant even add it a mention of that?
 
#4
I saw it last night also and after the show while waiting for my wife. The people that were walking by were quite emotional over it. My wife said she had shed a tear or two over it.

But I also was wondering why they did not mention the Medal of Honor.
 
#8
Because if you're going to talk the talk, walk the walk. If he's so against firearms, he shouldn't become even richer by being in a movie that has tons of weapons in it. I'm willing to bet the guy just doesn't rely on his fighting skills to keep his family safe. Or maybe his bodyguards don't. I suppose we're all hypocrites though.
 
#10
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Stop being butthurt about the opinions of people that get paid for pretending to be other people.
 
#11
Well, I tried to watch it. Got right to the point where they got gathered up after sliding down the mountain and something in the movie theatre broke. Guess I'll give er another go sometime this week!
 
#13
Some people have a problem with integrity. I understand the point the other guy was trying to make, aside from the strict entertainment value.

News item: Shaun Penn scraps 65 guns made into a sculpture and limp wrested Anderson Cooper buys the thing for $1,400,000. Why? Is there a message? Are we free to reject that message?

Would a boycott have any value, just because Wallberg is anti gun? Should you spend your money on other message movies? And, lastly, exactly why no mention of the Medal of Honor? Is this a Patriotic Movie or an anti war movie? I haven't seen it. BB
 
#14
I saw it 2 nights ago. It was VERY good. The best way I could describe it is a modern day Saving Private Ryan. It puts you into the action with the 4 seals and the sounds/action look and sound so much better than other movies. I felt the actors did great also. My only negative was I felt the movie was too short. It is just a hair over 2hrs. I felt if it had been another 30min they could have got more of the books details crammed in.

I give it a 8.5-9 out of 10.
 
#15
MadRoofer_DMI said:
Myself I could give 2 $h!Ts about Marks personal opinion about guns since it has nothing to do with there job which is as BoilerUp said pretending to be other people. I watch a movie to be entertained.
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Well at least you have your priorities straight. Your entertainment is way more valuable than your rights...

Do you really not think that the money you put in his pocket doesn't also gives him a podium to influence people? It's no wonder we're always losing...
 
#17
Marky Mark hasn't, isn't and cannot take away anybody's right to own a firearm.

He's entitled to his opinion, no matter how much we might disagree with it.

And "we" don't have any real shot of "winning" the mind of anybody who gets their political views from an ACTOR anyway.

Besides all attributable quotes I've seen have been from a decade ago and stopped way short of the recent nonsense from politicians.
 
#18
Don't worry about me I have my priorities straight and I do fight for my rights granted by OUR constitution. As my family and friend know me "I disapprove of what you say but I will defend to the death your right to say it." What Mark does with his money is on him. We all buy and watch things in which our money goes into something we don't care for. I'm all about our rights as an individual in this wonderful nation of ours.
 
#19
Flea21 said:
Let it go already.. It was a good movie. The cast was pretty solid too regardless of their standpoint on guns.

Why does somebody always have to chime in a destroy a good thread started by the op?!
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Since you asked, We chime in because we are sick and tired of these self-righteous hypocrites getting rich of our patronage.
 
#20
I don't know about you guys, but I read the book and watched the movie to honor the fallen, not walberg. Besides, don't a lot of the proceeds go to the lone survivor foundation? Luttrell was also in the movie, watch it to support him.
 
#22
diverdon said:
Since you asked, We chime in because we are sick and tired of these self-righteous hypocrites getting rich of our patronage.
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Im equally as sick and tired extremists like yourself fighting to deprive those of us of certain joys of life.. beit a movie or food from a restaurant that has different views. The food is good and so is the movie and I will enjoy both regardless. My $15 for the movie or $100 for dinner isnt gonna tip the scales either way and if it does oh well, I still enjoyed what was available to me to do so.
 
#24
and I do fight for my rights granted by OUR constitution
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EddieNFL said:
I'm sure you meant "guaranteed."
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Yeah, the Constitution simply serves as tacit acknowledgement of those rights that are already accorded to us by a much higher power than that which can be elected by a man with a ballot.

And as far as the movie goes, putting money into the pocket of some actor who actively engages in activities outside such theatrical works to deprive us of those guarantees is giving aid and comfort to the enemy, no ifs, ands, or buts.
 
#26
My goodness, aren't we shallow this evening!

Right, right, entertainment always trumps politics.

But not Wallbergs politics, because he's a friggin' movie star.

Chump.
 
#27
Flea21 said:
Im equally as sick and tired extremists like yourself fighting to deprive those of us of certain joys of life.. beit a movie or food from a restaurant that has different views. The food is good and so is the movie and I will enjoy both regardless. My $15 for the movie or $100 for dinner isnt gonna tip the scales either way and if it does oh well, I still enjoyed what was available to me to do so.
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Answering a question you posed makes me an " extremists fighting to deprive those of us of certain joys of life.. beit a movie or food from a restaurant that has different views." I am having a difficult time following your logic. First I am not fighting at all. You have a right to your views, as do nitwit actors. You have a right to your entertainment, and even your hundred dollar meal. (Please tell me it is not a vegan meal.)

Perhaps you could provide a link where I have criticized anyone's choice of restaurant. The last year I have begun to prefer the Burrito Bowl at Chipotle Mexican Grill (for about $10) to most hundred dollar meals.

By all means live your own life according to your own priorities. One of my priorities in reducing the ways my income supports those who are working to abridge our freedoms. I support your right to freely chose to support those who might scheme to take our freedoms. That is what freedom is.
 
#28
EddieNFL said:
I'm sure you meant "guaranteed."
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They are innumerable rights given to us by God or any other a posteriori or a priori ideas you have about moral ethics. A couple of written words on a document can never guarantee you or take away the rights you simply have from being birthed. The forefathers were rightfully afraid that without detailing some of these rights, people would try to strip you of them citing the 'times' they live in. They had amazing foresight. Read about some of their qualms. It's incredible the issues they thought the country would face in the future.

Okay an a posteriori idea of moral ethics may dictate that the rights you have are from the culture you live in; but, I don't buy that. You are naturally allowed on an animal instinctive scale to defend yourself from all threats. Be it physical, mental, etc. If someone else is trying to screw with you, you have a right to not be screwed with. I have a right in both philosophies to not be enslaved. After all, the scholars that believe in a posteriori arguments believe that slavery is wrong. You know, because it's not good and stuff (and they'd be incredibly unpopular if they were cool with slavery.)

The thing about a posteriori beliefs is that it all comes down to your culture. Basically, your culture dictates what is and is not okay. But it shifts doesn't it? From one culture to the next, it will change. There is no way that it can't, if your truly follow it. (Most don't.) They'll try to leverage their personal beliefs on you and cite "the cultural standard" to back up their ideas. Because you know, they define what they believe to be the social standard. Slippery ain't it.

A priori people believe you are just flat out born with some rights. It doesn't matter where the hell you're at, or what time you're born in. You have a fucking right to things. Not to be subjugated, not to be limited in your socio-economic mobility, to do what ever the hell you want to.

So if some a posteriori guys in the northeast believe one thing. Is it okay to rob the mid-west people of their believed a posteriori ideas? How? Why? Would it ever be okay to subjugate others to your beliefs? Is it okay to accept the subjugating? If your culture doesn't allow itself to heed to others demands outside of your culture, who is in the wrong?

Use this to your advantage. Most don't want to talk about moral ethics because they will lose.

If they want to get academic, get academic with them. We will win. It doesn't have to do shit with a movie. It really doesn't. It has to do with people. Some will never heed to an a priori idea. They simply can't. Don't engage them. "Never argue with an idiot, they're drag you down to their level and beat you with experience."

Guys, the way we can win this is with a smile and a head nod. There are people we simply can't convert or educate. So why spend time on them? Move on, and invite a non-gun, non-shooter to the range and teach them about marksmanship. Volunteer for Appleseed, become an instructor, send your money to anti-gun states. It's only through positive action we can do it. Wasting your time on idiots and ideologues serves nothing. Get on the streets and in the trenches, that's where we'll reap the most. Arguing amongst ourselves accomplishes nothing. Hell, go to a Starbucks, make a friend and get them to the range. Be proactive! Sitting in our nice little homes with our rifles does nothing, we must expand our ranks. Go out and make it happen. Skip lunch at the local fastfood and put that money into ammo and get more people to the range.

My favorite teacher in high school was vehemently against guns. She was from Maine, and hated firearms. After Sand Hook I sent her an e-mail trying to feel out her ideas about anti-gun things. Because in my little mind, I couldn't figure it out. That's when I read something that blew my mind.

"I appreciate your confusion; I've gone through something similar in the last year. For a few reasons, George, my husband, thought that we should have a gun in the house and be trained to use it. First, there was a kidnapping of a woman about my age here in Double Oak. She was taken from her home and had no way to defend herself. She was recovered and is fine, but the impact of being that vulnerable remained with me. Then, as we approach the next phase of our lives when we're moving onto a boat (some people retire, but we're going to sea), we realized that we'll be pretty defenseless without any weapons. So we went through gun training, and even went on to get our CHLs. We haven't actually starting "packing" but I know how you feel in this circumstance.

I think the best commentary on the CT tragedy (and the Aurora movie theater, Fort Hood, etc., etc.) is to look at the whole picture: Yes, easy access to guns with few requirements is a problem, but so is the lack of good mental health care, the lack of monitoring Islamic extremists, the inclusion and influence of violence in our society, and the dysfunction of many family relationships. Guns by themselves are neutral; it's their usage that determines if they're destructive or defensive. Any partial patch on the dilemma, like more gun legislation, will be incomplete and ineffective.

Buying and learning to use guns was such a paradigm shift for me that I literally got sick the first few times I shot them. (Really--I threw up in the parking lot!) But then I realized that my fear was more based on my lack of knowledge rather than my knowledge, and that's often the case--fear is frequently a function of ignorance. So perhaps that's a track you can take, being the ambassador of weapons knowledge, not overtly or pushy, but as people ask. When we're confronted with information that doesn't fit our prejudice, we have to adjust our expectations and view of the world. When you meet or talk to someone about the validity of having weapons, you can be the calm, considered, and convincing voice of reason, which will probably be at odds with their preconceived notion of "gun-toting crazies" the media likes to promulgate.

Your impulse to want to have saved the children of Sandy Hook is exactly right. It's the reason to have a CHL--not to start something, but to prevent or resolve it. I'd say "stick to your guns," but that's too easy...so I'll just say carry on (whoops, another pun!). Continue to be the solid and representative of the community that rejects easy and illegitimate answers, and engage in conversations that reflect your interests. People who judge quickly are rarely fair or accurate, and you can't change people's minds who are determined that they are right, regardless of any evidence to the contrary; so just carry on being the voice of reason. Your actions and resolve will be louder than their arguments."
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Take people to the range. Teach. We are the only ones to can educate others. Make it happen and stop bitching about it not working out.
-Aur0ra145
 
#29
Although not in the military my self, I have many friends a family member in all different branches of the armed forces. I have the utmost respect for any person serving. I believe this movie really did some justice, and as unmanly as it sounds, I teared up at the credits seeing those men who gave all so I could be free. For once Hollywood did something right.

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#32
I read the book months ago and watched the movie saturday. I thought the movie did a pretty accurate job following the detail of the book and loved the fact that Luttrell had a cameo in the movie! Good movie and will buy the DVD when it comes out!!! Like others mentioned, I agree that Murphy's Medal of Honor should have been mentioned with the rest of the details at the end of the movie.
 
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