Looking for insight / feedback - Remington M24, issued or not?

[egunner]

Hi all -

Making this post as @Andrew1182 has suggested. I work for an FFL and I have a customer who is looking to potentially sell us a Remington M24. I am not super familiar with these.

There is a letter claiming that this firearm was issued and has seen combat in a few areas around the world, which I am unsure of how to validate that.

Pictures of this firearm are attached, as is the 'letter' claiming to confirm the legitimacy of this firearm being issued.

Was this issued or no? And if not, what would the value of this firearm be?

Appreciate any insight, thank you!

 

[Andrew1182]

yeah, man, definitely issued. A shooter totally mounted that optic on those rings, and never even test fired the thing enough to leave a mark. Whoever sold that rifle to your customer is a thief.

 

[Rio Precision Gunworks]

LOLOL @ that letter.

 

[egunner]

LOLOL @ that letter.

Was curious about that as well....

 

[Rio Precision Gunworks]

Yeah, I was like "I could've also typed this myself...what does this prove?" haha

The claims in the letter are all kinds of wrong and/or lies.

 

[Rio Precision Gunworks]

I especially love the part where the rifle is listed as a "back up" rifle to a "gas gun." And that it was used when the gas gun failed.

 

[Andrew1182]

The claims in the letter are all kinds of wrong and/or lies.

The most interesting part is the guy who wrote the letter and sold the rifle originally is an FFL. I would love it if they would share his information so we can see if he’s a member here and maybe he can expound on his claims?

 

[Rio Precision Gunworks]

The most interesting part is the guy who wrote the letter and sold the rifle originally is an FFL. I would love it if they would share his information so we can see if he’s a member here and maybe he can expound on his claims?

Field trip. I'd just like to present the letter to him and just ask him to explain. Purely for entertainment.

 

[hafejd30]

They claim 2 body’s in front of that rifle. Looks like not even one has laid behind it. What a bunch of horse crap

In for the only “mint” sniper rifle ever fielded

 

[Rio Precision Gunworks]

They claim 2 body’s in front of that rifle. Looks like not even one has laid behind it. What a bunch of horse crap

In for the only “mint” sniper rifle ever fielded
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Ahem.....back up bolt rifle.

 

[hafejd30]

What’s mounted left side of the rear portion of the action?

 

[egunner]

What’s mounted left side of the rear portion of the action?

Not a clue, I could ask.

 

[Rio Precision Gunworks]

What’s mounted left side of the rear portion of the action?

Mounting location for rear peep sight.

 

[Andrew1182]

What’s mounted left side of the rear portion of the action?

If he told you, he’d probably have to kill you. That’s why no one can find his military records. Top-secret bro.

 

[Rio Precision Gunworks]

The rifle is an m24. But it's probably one of the Euro Optic run, or came from Remington Defense before.

 

[FuhQ]

Issued...But not one speck of Krylon either...

 

[hafejd30]

Mounting location for rear peep sight.

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I take it these are standard issue?

I mean it is a Leupold…..

So maybe

 

[FuhQ]

This?

I take it these are standard issue?View attachment 8324389

Yeah, if they set the scope up for Rocky Dennis...

 

[Rio Precision Gunworks]

I take it these are standard issue?

I mean it is a Leupold…..

So maybe

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Was similar to the whole long action so they could rebarrel to something else. Backup iron sights, etc. You can see the front post mounting location on the muzzle.

There were a lot of odd decisions that weren't very practical in the m24.

 

[Andrew1182]

Issued...But not one speck of Krylon either...

I brought this point up on day one.

 

[Rio Precision Gunworks]

To the OP's question about value. Euro sold a batch for $3k each. You'd have to find someone who really wants it to get near that much.

The optic, I could be wrong, but don't think that's the correct optic for a clone. Correct optics sell for $800-$1600. Mainly the 10x M3 version. If it's just a normal mk4......might get $800 out of it, tops.

 

[Rio Precision Gunworks]

PM me if he decides to sell the rifle. I'd be interested. I'm a sucker for an m24

 

[Terry Cross]

I do not believe this to be the case, but this customer claims that this firearm was issued at some point and has bodies on it. I have seen this firearm in person once before, and the gun is essentially mint, looks like a complete safe queen in my opinion.

Your Spidey senses are on point.
It would look like an abused crack whore 3 seconds into any deployment.

FFS, just dragging it to a range for zeroing and checking out would leave brass marks and wear after the first 20rds.

Pictures of this firearm are attached, as is the 'letter' claiming to confirm the legitimacy of this firearm being issued.

Was this issued or no?

Not even close.
As outlined by others above plus other reasons yet to be mentioned, there is zero chance that rifle was ever issued.

And if not, what would the value of this firearm be?

Look up what EuroOptic sells their M24 pkgs for and offer him 75% of that since it is "used" per his letter.

Actually the letter itself may be worth more....
...as a piece of evidence in a lawsuit against the POS for fraudulent misrepresentation.

His ass needs to be blackballed in whatever shooting and professional community he slithers around in.

There are quite a few here that would relish the opportunity to call him out to his face.

Your FFL/owner needs to be in the loop and get in his ass hard for trying to pull that shit on his premises.

Well, you did ask for opinions... lol

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[Rio Precision Gunworks]

- Marine Corps specs.......on an m24
- Initially says overwatch
- Then says backup to a "gas gun"
- Claims it was used in combat when "primary weapon failed"
- Invokes G14 not at liberty to say classified
- Claims it was manufactured "off record" in case of capture (even though they were working alongside coalition forces.....so, not sure what opsec this is for now)

And not a single scratch on it. Cause we all know how easy it is to not bang shit around when you're being shot at.

 

[shlouf]

The rifle is an m24. But it's probably one of the Euro Optic run, or came from Remington Defense before.

Not from the EO run, those SNs started with “ASA”.

Definitely a real m24 though. Scope and rings are worth $6-700 realistically. $3k for the package would be a steal

 

[RIGREG]

I wonder if overseas contractors have their own version of the Stolen Valor Act. Owner claims 4 named theaters and multiple other secret squirrel classified ones.

To paraphrase Mike Wolfe from American Pickers, “Buy the rifle, not the story.”

 

[M8541Reaper]

This has to be a PSS’er that spent too much time jerking off to the M24’s his DDMs carried. Came off rotation with too much money and went full retard.

 

[ODCMP]

That is one of the standard Remington M24's that they started releasing to the public about 2014. Based on the RR prefix and G suffix to the serial number and the datamatrix square, this would have been pretty late in production, maybe 2016 or later.

So it is a real M24 made by Remington Defense, but it is very unlikely it was issued. It doesn't look like it has seen any real use and the high rings don't look usable. He doesn't say when he was in Syria and Africa, but the timeframe seems off from the late production date of this rifle.

There were some RR prefix receivers, however, that were in Army inventory based on FOIA responses.. The ones I have recorded so far all had serial number letter suffixes in the A, B, and C range.

New M24's were still being built for the Army by Remington in parallel with the M24's sold commercially as part of the Remington Rebuild Program. Most of the serial numbers used in the Rebuild Program had the RR prefix, aside from some G prefix receivers used in the beginning of the program. At the same time though, Remington was using RR prefix receivers to fulfill their Army contract, law enforcement sales and foreign military contracts.

My guess is that as Remington fulfilled their contract with the Army to convert the existing M24's into M2010's, they had to replace some receivers. The time frame would be correct for RR receivers appearing in Army inventory in the 2013 or 2014 time frame.

Here are a couple posts from the Army M24 Build Thread that is stickied above:

Army M24 Build Thread

Also got these in the mail today after several years of searching. Original laser filters. I've had the Mk11/M110 style prior and it's always bugged me not to have the right one.

www.snipershide.com

Army M24 Build Thread

What are M3A's going for these days?

www.snipershide.com

If anyone wants to read more, the Army M24 build thread is a good source.

 

[Lost_Phil]

Making this post as @Andrew1182 has suggested. I work for an FFL and I have a customer who is looking to potentially sell us a Remington M24. I am not super familiar with these.

That rifle is too clean to have been issued to me, and it is more likely a Euro Optics M24. (The manual gives it away.)

It does have the back mount for the peep site which is a plus. Does he have the front and rear sites with the rifle? This would be another plus for resale as they are hard to find since they stopped issuing them some time ago.

 

[m1marty]

That is one of the standard Remington M24's that they started releasing to the public about 2014. Based on the RR prefix and G suffix to the serial number and the datamatrix square, this would have been pretty late in production, maybe 2016 or later.

So it is a real M24 made by Remington Defense, but it is very unlikely it was issued. It doesn't look like it has seen any real use and the high rings don't look usable. He doesn't say when he was in Syria and Africa, but the timeframe seems off from the late production date of this rifle.

There were some RR prefix receivers, however, that were in Army inventory based on FOIA responses.. The ones I have recorded so far all had serial number letter suffixes in the A, B, and C range.

New M24's were still being built for the Army by Remington in parallel with the M24's sold commercially as part of the Remington Rebuild Program. Most of the serial numbers used in the Rebuild Program had the RR prefix, aside from some G prefix receivers used in the beginning of the program. At the same time though, Remington was using RR prefix receivers to fulfill their Army contract, law enforcement sales and foreign military contracts.

My guess is that as Remington fulfilled their contract with the Army to convert the existing M24's into M2010's, they had to replace some receivers. The time frame would be correct for RR receivers appearing in Army inventory in the 2013 or 2014 time frame.

Here are a couple posts from the Army M24 Build Thread that is stickied above:

Army M24 Build Thread

Also got these in the mail today after several years of searching. Original laser filters. I've had the Mk11/M110 style prior and it's always bugged me not to have the right one.

www.snipershide.com

Army M24 Build Thread

What are M3A's going for these days?

www.snipershide.com

If anyone wants to read more, the Army M24 build thread is a good source.

At least to M suffix (latest I've seen)

 

[DeathBeforeDismount]

There was a program when they were upgrading to the m2010s, they would sell you a new barreled action in all the old used m24 garb. It was offered to active duty snipers ( b4 and sotic) then guard snipers and on down based on a priority list they made. But this is way way too clean to have come from that program. Even to a collector the m24 is the least interesting sniper rifle in US mil use. Unless you were issued one and want it for nostalgia purposes, couldn't imagine spending money on that abomination. A shop buying it to flip, I wouldn't offer more than 50% what you think you can sell it for. Its going to most likely sit for a long time waiting for the right buyer.

 

[diggler1833]

^ Those were often referred to, and I still refer to mine as an M24R (rebuild). I got mine in 2015. They came in different levels of "completeness" - some being fully ready to go in deployment kits, some were rifle with mounted optic only, and some were just the rifle only.

They had a new barreled action in a return stock, bottom metal, and other return parts if you purchased one of the more complete examples.

Use is evident with these. Mine had a very nice, worn down OEF paint job on it. There was a hint of a rack number painted on with green paint pen. I gave mine a full krylon job after I put the correct Mk4 on it...but I kept the part with the green paint pen bare.