I am new to the air rifle world so forgive me my ignorance. But I’m looking to purchase a long range air rifle (if that’s even a thing) and am wanting a caliber .25- or larger. Want it for coyote and possibly deer hunting. Also what’s the difference between the projectiles compared to regular guns? Thank you
Looking for recommendations for long range air rifle
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AGT is coming out with a Vulcan 3 HP, not sure but it might be out??
I have a tuned V3 in 25 cal. Sends 60gr Altaros slugs at 862fps or 99 fpe. The HP version should get you about another 100 fps more. This is .250" barrel.
There are some .257's that other companies make with more power to shoot heavier slugs, like Airforce, Benjamin Bulldog, and some other higher end rifles. Airgun Nation is the best place to ask.
I have a tuned V3 in 25 cal. Sends 60gr Altaros slugs at 862fps or 99 fpe. The HP version should get you about another 100 fps more. This is .250" barrel.
There are some .257's that other companies make with more power to shoot heavier slugs, like Airforce, Benjamin Bulldog, and some other higher end rifles. Airgun Nation is the best place to ask.
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I forgot to mention the G1 BC of those 60 grainers which is .245. That means even though these are starting off a bit slow they retain down range velocity and energy well. They also blow in the wind less than lower BC slugs.
A 40gr 22rf bullet has a typical G1 BC of .16-ish so .245 for the slugs is substantial.
It's not hard to hit a kitty cat sized and shaped steel at 300Y in medium winds.
A 40gr 22rf bullet has a typical G1 BC of .16-ish so .245 for the slugs is substantial.
It's not hard to hit a kitty cat sized and shaped steel at 300Y in medium winds.
Also are you saying that air gun slugs have better bc coefficiency than regular rifles but just less muzzle velocity ?
FX Maverick, Impact, RAW Mini Hunter. There's a very nice almost new Maverick for sale on AGN classifieds.
I personally don't have any plans to buy one but they can produce a lot of power.
No just sometimes.
Generally it's not easy to get any more than 1100+ fps with airguns and most shoot well using slugs in the 850 - 1000 fps range.
BC's vary quite a bit just like they do in firearms world.
For example;
A high G1 BC for a heavy per caliber pellet is .06 so it's much less than even a 17 cal firearm bullet.
Almost all 22 cal airgun slugs are quite a bit less than a 40gr 22rf bullet, like low .1's BC, with a few exceptions like some Altaros slugs or maybe some cast ones.
Some heavier .257 cast slugs can have a of .2 or so.
Then if getting into longer slugs in larger calibers the BC's go up more. I know a guy that has a custom 7mm and 30 cal caliber using
105gr 7mm, G1 BC=0.28
171gr .308, G1 BC=0.42
These are longer slugs requiring faster twist rates.
I'd go straight to 45 caliber because of the knockdown power for deer as well as the wide variety of projectiles out there. The BC's won't be the highest but still pretty good and lot's of energy.
I'm thinking about buying the AGT Netvor 45 cal when it comes out because this company builds good reliable airguns.
Don't buy it from Tony. The guy is a POS and the first time you have a warranty issue, you will be on your own.
Thanks for the heads up. The only thing I've bought from him are Altaros slugs which he had put on sale at buy 3 get 1 free.
I buy my AGT's from Derrick at Tenacious Air, then pay a little more for his tuning services, even if the gun is brand new. My V3 does 1.1" fairly consistently at 100Y using those 60 grain Altaros. The combo has helped me win more than a few times at our UFT matches. BC,BC,BC plus precision = success.
I can't seem to find a website for Tenacious Air, does he have one or how do you get in touch?
I know Derrick personally. He's a great shot, does what he says he'll do, and one of the top airgun tuners in the world.
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Umarex is probably best known for its realistic replicas of famous firearms in airgun form, but they’ve set themselves up as a serious big-bore contender with the introduction of the Hammer. It’s built in the U.S.A., and the Hammer delivers 700 foot-pounds of knockdown energy to reliably take big game with a .51 caliber, 550-grain pill. Though the Hammer hasn’t yet reached the public, a number of professional airgun hunters have taken some notable animals with it, including American bison and African cape buffalo. Noteworthy features include an 8.5-inch Picatinny rail, Magpul AR-style grip, rear sling stud, three M-LOK attachment points, and a Foster connection to pressurize the carbon-fiber reservoir quickly to a maximum pressure of 4,500 PSI. The trigger breaks cleanly at about 6 pounds, and the bolt cycles easily with only about 2 pounds of pressure, so you can get the second pellet in quickly if you need a follow-up shot. $849; umarexusa.com
If you don't know much about airguns, be aware to get in to PCP shooting, the gun itself will only be about half or less of the total cost. You can cut that cost down by filling with a hand pump, but you won't do that for long if you are doing any amount of shooting because its a pain in the ass and a lot of work and if you are shooting 25 cal or larger at higher velocities you are going to go through a lot of air. For airgun hunting, forget pellets and buy something set up to shoot slugs. Air Force (not RAW) build quality is on the low end and their triggers are crap. FX, RAW, Daystate, and several others build high quality rifles, but expect to spend a couple of grand on the rifle, plus optic and filling equipment.
For the useage you described, if you have budget for it I would probably go with an FX Impact. It’s a fine hunting rifle and fares well in competition if you are so inclined. Also, you can change calibers easily to cut ammo cost and air usage when you don’t need all that knock down power. Easy to tune and the more recent vintages are not as prone to issues as the early production versions. I’ve owned 2 of them and almost recently bought another one, but decided to go with a DRS Pro instead for what I intended to use it for.
I would stay as far away from an FX Impact as humanly possible. That thing has 67 seals in it .............one could go at any time and finding it will be a nightmare. So you finally find the leak. Replace the seal, guns working great. Until a month of two down the road when another seal goes.
I owned 2 of them for a total of 6 or 7 years and that was not my experience. I had one of the earliest models which did have the main gauge O-ring fail. That was about a 2 minute repair, but it was an O-ring failure. My second one never leaked at all. Having said that, I probably would not buy it as a first-time PCP buyer. It is extremely flexible and tunable, but that comes with complexity that a less experienced air gunner might not appreciate.
My 1st gen Impact was super frustrating. It didn't hold zero from day to day. The reg failed within a few weeks. And other small things, one being a bunch of loose screws which I found when I started hunting for other problems. What was just as bad was my 1st gen FX adjustable angle rings slipped down over time and no it couldn't be tightened down enough to stay put. I can't remember which one but a main OR failed as well.
A airgun Smith friend fixed it and I sold it right after that.
A airgun Smith friend fixed it and I sold it right after that.
1st gen Impacts were definitely prone to more issues than later generations. This is the first time I've heard of one not holding zero unless the reg was bad. Both of mine were tack drivers. I only sold my 2nd one because I had moved to shooting more powder burners and it was just sitting and gathering dust. There are lots of good PCP choices. My favorite airgun was a custom built RAW HM1000 that Martin built for me before they sold to Air Force. Unfortunately that RAW was stolen along with a bunch of other rifles, otherwise I would still have it.
Do you hang out on Airgun Nation forum? I ask because there is a long thread about Impacts not holding a zero well. It's a commonly known issue.
Part of that is the thin liner system supported in a thin shroud by rubber Orings.
I won't go into the other weaknesses that people have pointed out with the Impact and that aftermarket parts were made specifically to improve POI shifts in the Impact.
Just two matches ago a guy I know put his Impact in his gun caddy in the back seat of his car, was in a hurry because he was running late for the shooters meeting, then had to slam on his brakes causing the Impact to fall to forward with the liner hitting the back of the front seat, with the result of being WAAAAAY off on his zero and he actually chased his zero throughout the match because it kept changing.
If the same thing would have happened to my Thomas I'd maybe be off a few clicks "or not". I've got some stories about this too......
I used to be on AGN, but haven't been on there in quite a while. The Thomas is a purpose built competition rifle in a different league than the Impact. I'm not an FX fanboy by any means. Just saying my experience was different than yours. Makes zero difference to me what the OP buys or doesn't. I think most people who have never been down the PCP route before end up not doing it once they figure out what its actually going to cost to do it right. I keep one around to resolve the occasional coyote or racoon problem in my yard where I can't use a powder burner.
Hello Everyone
Found the below video in YT. Should be interesting you all
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Thanks for posting. Matt is well known in the airgunning community.
Interesting excersize, but I still maintain that this is impractical not only for airguns but for powderburners. Most of us don't have the space to do this kind of thing. Sure, a target can be hit at this distance, but so what? I doubt there's much energy left in those projectiles by the time they reach the target.
Wouldn't be enough energy at 1/4 of that distance for practical hunting . Fun to watch though 
Anyone know what the practical distance is for .22 cal 36 gr. pellet ,traveling at 1K Fps would be at 100 yd. ?. Assuming 70 Ft. lb. at muzzle .
Anyone know what the practical distance is for .22 cal 36 gr. pellet ,traveling at 1K Fps would be at 100 yd. ?. Assuming 70 Ft. lb. at muzzle .
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