Looking to try out NRL Hunter. Need advice.

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    I'm looking to possibly start shooting NRL Hunter. Give me the advice. Production or Open. Custom build or buy a rifle off the shelf? Equipment needed? Caliber? Scope choices, Etc, etc, etc...

    I have my eye on the Bergara MG Lite in 6.5 CM. But also considering a build using either the same chassis as the MG Lite or MDT HNT26. Possibly a Tikka action or an Impact titanium. Looking to go as light as possible for use as an actual hunting rifle.

    TIA.
     
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    What’s your budget? If you’re trying to use it as a normal hunting rifle, open light makes the most sense. I see no reason to do an off the shelf build if you have money for custom. You’ll be happier in the long run with custom. I’m currently working on building a rifle using a PVA 3b prefit, origin SA, and manners LRH. With an Athlon Midas Tac 4-16 and double pull ckye pod, I should be pretty close to 12 pounds. A lot of guys run those MDT HNT26s, and you save a few ounces over a LRH.
     
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    Don't go crazy chasing gear for this game. At least not right off the bat.

    I run a pretty simple kit and it works fine. It is a higher end rifle but other compete well with factory stuff. keep in mind you'll need a good tripod and LRF and that can be as much as a rifle pretty quick.

    It's nice stuff but here is what I choose to run. I shoot Open Light.

    My spec'd rifle built by G.A. Precision
    Bartlein Carbon #7 bbl at 24"
    Mack Bros Evo or Defiance AnTiX
    Manners LRH stock with Badger M5 (I put a butterfly latch on it)
    Atlas tall or Harris 9-13
    RRS Anvil 30 tripod
    Armageddon Gear GameChanger full size waxed canvas
    Bushnell Elite Tac LRHS
    Bushnell Fusion X LRF Binos. (I keep a TerrapinX on my side if I need it)

    That kit works well for me. I may start using my triple pull CkyePod but I think it will throw me in open heavy so I may do that and put a beefier scope on it.

    Either class you run it's a really fun format and I am pumped to shoot several more this year!
     
    #1- Decide if you are out to compete, or learn to hunt beter with your hunting rifle. This choice can change your gear selection.

    I find more fun in the production class. The allowed rifles that are less than 12 lbs (fully fitted out) are few and driving them well can be a challenge. But if you want Shear performance shoot open. I've use a factory Ruger American in thier crappy green plastic stock (Paid $300 for the used rifle) and had a lot of fun. Avoid the half and half builds. (Factory Tikka in a krg stock) These push you to the open devision while still shooting a factory action and barrel. Other fellas will have to chime in on build parts as I have not gone down that road.

    Choose your caliber. 6.5 creedmoor will handle 80% of North American game and makes sense to me. It's the low end of the energy and recoil spectrum but very capable at distance. We know this is a game of "spot your miss". The catch is you have to make the minumum 380,000 power factor.(bullet weight x velocity) 140 at 2725fps, 147 at 2585, or 153 at 2485 are popular bullet weights and minimum velocities. Or shoot factory 6.5 ammunition as it is always accepted regardless of velocity.

    A better way to choose a cartridge is evaluating the wind capabilities since you'll need to make wind calls on the fly. 6.5 prc will have less deflection than the creed but more recoil. The only way I would drive something other than creedmoor is in an open heavy. If its a true hunting rifle you'll need to know if you want 16lbs of gun to tote around.
    Less then 12 lbs = 6.5 creedmoor
    Less then 16 lbs = 6.5 prc

    Scopes - because 97.4% of targets are 800 yds or less 15x mag is more then enough to get the job done. A good reticle with 0.2 or 0.25 mil subtensions. The scope weight can be a big deal if choosing to run factory class because of the 12lb limit.
    Vortex HD LHT line is popular for low weight.
    Bushnell elite tactical is also popular.

    Range finding binos are a must have. These will be the #1 item to elevate your shooting capabilities. Finding a target with binoculars and being able to range it right away is huge. Switching between binos, rangefinder, binos, rangefinder is difficult and time consuming. Binos at 10x, range finder at 4x and rifle at 14x means you'll need to "find" each target 3 times. Ya don't nessicarily need a balisitic program in the binos but it can be nice. I find the programs take to long to display the information for me so I run a different system or an arm bar.

    A Quality tripod to shoot from is a big help. I prefer to run some sort of tac table with a bag on it to save time rather than clamping Into the tripod. Any of the current carbon fiber tripods on the market will work this way. (RRS, vortex, leofroto, athlon, fax boy, 2 vets) I use a pint size game changer (1/2 sand 1/2 gitlite) as a rear bag and the tripod bag. It's just enough stability and lite enough I would actually use it to hunt with.

    Good arm bar for data with marker or grease pen.

    Your shooting/stage process, binos, tripod, and wind calling will get you more impacts than what rifle or caliber you are running.

    Rifle-scope-bipod
    Ammunition
    Rear and barricade bag
    Range finding binos
    Tripod with tac table
    Arm bar with data (pen)
    Go shoot a match. This is all ya need.

    I find my backpack feels mostly empty compared to a prs match and that is what makes these so fun.
     
    Range finding binos are a must have. These will be the #1 item to elevate your shooting capabilities.

    This is what the majority use and it definitely buys you extra time. However, it was pleasantly surprising to see that the NRL finale last year was won by someone using separate binos and rangefinder.

    If you've already got a decent set of binos and a rangefinder you don't necessarily need to go buy an expensive RF bino.
     
    Don't go crazy chasing gear for this game. At least not right off the bat.

    I run a pretty simple kit and it works fine. It is a higher end rifle but other compete well with factory stuff. keep in mind you'll need a good tripod and LRF and that can be as much as a rifle pretty quick.

    It's nice stuff but here is what I choose to run. I shoot Open Light.

    My spec'd rifle built by G.A. Precision
    Bartlein Carbon #7 bbl at 24"
    Mack Bros Evo or Defiance AnTiX
    Manners LRH stock with Badger M5 (I put a butterfly latch on it)
    Atlas tall or Harris 9-13
    RRS Anvil 30 tripod
    Armageddon Gear GameChanger full size waxed canvas
    Bushnell Elite Tac LRHS
    Bushnell Fusion X LRF Binos. (I keep a TerrapinX on my side if I need it)

    That kit works well for me. I may start using my triple pull CkyePod but I think it will throw me in open heavy so I may do that and put a beefier scope on it.

    Either class you run it's a really fun format and I am pumped to shoot several more this year!

    #1- Decide if you are out to compete, or learn to hunt beter with your hunting rifle. This choice can change your gear selection.

    I find more fun in the production class. The allowed rifles that are less than 12 lbs (fully fitted out) are few and driving them well can be a challenge. But if you want Shear performance shoot open. I've use a factory Ruger American in thier crappy green plastic stock (Paid $300 for the used rifle) and had a lot of fun. Avoid the half and half builds. (Factory Tikka in a krg stock) These push you to the open devision while still shooting a factory action and barrel. Other fellas will have to chime in on build parts as I have not gone down that road.

    Choose your caliber. 6.5 creedmoor will handle 80% of North American game and makes sense to me. It's the low end of the energy and recoil spectrum but very capable at distance. We know this is a game of "spot your miss". The catch is you have to make the minumum 380,000 power factor.(bullet weight x velocity) 140 at 2725fps, 147 at 2585, or 153 at 2485 are popular bullet weights and minimum velocities. Or shoot factory 6.5 ammunition as it is always accepted regardless of velocity.

    A better way to choose a cartridge is evaluating the wind capabilities since you'll need to make wind calls on the fly. 6.5 prc will have less deflection than the creed but more recoil. The only way I would drive something other than creedmoor is in an open heavy. If its a true hunting rifle you'll need to know if you want 16lbs of gun to tote around.
    Less then 12 lbs = 6.5 creedmoor
    Less then 16 lbs = 6.5 prc

    Scopes - because 97.4% of targets are 800 yds or less 15x mag is more then enough to get the job done. A good reticle with 0.2 or 0.25 mil subtensions. The scope weight can be a big deal if choosing to run factory class because of the 12lb limit.
    Vortex HD LHT line is popular for low weight.
    Bushnell elite tactical is also popular.

    Range finding binos are a must have. These will be the #1 item to elevate your shooting capabilities. Finding a target with binoculars and being able to range it right away is huge. Switching between binos, rangefinder, binos, rangefinder is difficult and time consuming. Binos at 10x, range finder at 4x and rifle at 14x means you'll need to "find" each target 3 times. Ya don't nessicarily need a balisitic program in the binos but it can be nice. I find the programs take to long to display the information for me so I run a different system or an arm bar.

    A Quality tripod to shoot from is a big help. I prefer to run some sort of tac table with a bag on it to save time rather than clamping Into the tripod. Any of the current carbon fiber tripods on the market will work this way. (RRS, vortex, leofroto, athlon, fax boy, 2 vets) I use a pint size game changer (1/2 sand 1/2 gitlite) as a rear bag and the tripod bag. It's just enough stability and lite enough I would actually use it to hunt with.

    Good arm bar for data with marker or grease pen.

    Your shooting/stage process, binos, tripod, and wind calling will get you more impacts than what rifle or caliber you are running.

    Rifle-scope-bipod
    Ammunition
    Rear and barricade bag
    Range finding binos
    Tripod with tac table
    Arm bar with data (pen)
    Go shoot a match. This is all ya need.

    I find my backpack feels mostly empty compared to a prs match and that is what makes these so fun.

    This is what the majority use and it definitely buys you extra time. However, it was pleasantly surprising to see that the NRL finale last year was won by someone using separate binos and rangefinder.

    If you've already got a decent set of binos and a rangefinder you don't necessarily need to go buy an expensive RF bino.

    I currently compete in PRS type matches and have a lot of gear including Sig Kilo 3000 range finding binos and an RRS tripod w/ Anvil 30 ball head. As well as some bags, etc. I also run a NX8 4-32 (Mil-XT) on my Vudoo and would likely serve as my NRL scope as well. Although that might change when I finally build/buy a rifle and see where it ends up on weight. I'm inclined to get a lower power scope for improved FOV since hunting targets is such a big part of this game. Although I imagine you'd have found all the targets using your binos.

    6.5 CM seemed to be the "Goldilocks" caliber with making power factor but low relative recoil.
     
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    This is what the majority use and it definitely buys you extra time. However, it was pleasantly surprising to see that the NRL finale last year was won by someone using separate binos and rangefinder.

    If you've already got a decent set of binos and a rangefinder you don't necessarily need to go buy an expensive RF bino.
    Defiantly doable. I would imagine it would be a dual mounted setup though where the LRH is almost slaved to the spotting unit allowing the LRF to have the target in FOV when the target was located with the binos. This can allow you to use a superior bino and LRH. Say some NL Pures or so with a great FOV and then a really good LRF.

    Just betting, I may be wrong.
     
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