Looks like there was a ammo sales serge today

This^^^^^. I have no stockpiles.

I do a load development project for each rifle I own, zero the rifles with the load, and then produce a reasonable amount of ammunition using those results. Like enough to sustain a day's practice at the range. IMHO, anything larger that what can be transported at any one time, without long notice and special means, could not serve me well in any 'real life' scenario.

For another thing, I don't like having ammunition around more than a year or so. I've found that bullets and case necks bond in actually pretty brief periods, making ES/SD numbers wildly dissimilar. Accuracy can go away with ammunition age.

I've had bullets that cannot be removed using a collet puller, in less than two weeks after production. I wonder if folks who experience pressure spikes, or worse, have ever considered such a situation.

Greg
 
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I can't find the video of the cartel shoot out. 2 groups of guys shooting at each other from trucks with assault rifles. The trucks have homemade armor.

Then a technical with a m2hb rolls up and then smokes the other side and ends the fight RFN
 
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Respectful note to reloaders:

I'm very happy you are a reloader. Reloading provides you a great hobby, a genuine sense of satisfaction and accomplishment. You have invested a lot of money in your hobby. Good for you. God bless you.

But....for non-reloaders...like me...I have a level of personal income that allows me to buy all tto she ammo I need, want and can use. I have a metric poop ton of all the ammo I need for every caliber I shoot. I can afford NOT to reload. I don't have to waste my time reloading.

So, with all due respect, I'd ask you to consider taking all your obnoxious "I reload" comments and putting them, gently, with extra lube, right up into that place where the star in our solar system does not shine.

Peace and love. Peace and love.

Well said....the calibers I shoot have very high quality ammo available. Berger's factory offerings in 6.5 often produce single digit SD values even in strings of 20. If I were shooting 1,000 yard Benchrest or F-Class, I think I would reload but for shooting 1 MOA plates at 1,000 yards repeatedly and consistently; I haven't found it to be necessary. Moreover, the time spent is better spent with my family or teaching others how to shoot which I enjoy more than the whole reloading process.

I think it has advantages in some areas but in terms of cost, it is a loser unless you shoot a lot. I did a pretty comprehensive spreadsheet that looks at everything and if your reloading equipment runs you $3K (not difficult to do), then your breakeven time will be a number of years unless you are shooting more than 3500 rounds per year. Financially, it is a loser for me and the cost doesn't even enter my mind
 
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Respectful note to reloaders:

I'm very happy you are a reloader. Reloading provides you a great hobby, a genuine sense of satisfaction and accomplishment. You have invested a lot of money in your hobby. Good for you. God bless you.

But....for non-reloaders...like me...I have a level of personal income that allows me to buy all tto she ammo I need, want and can use. I have a metric poop ton of all the ammo I need for every caliber I shoot. I can afford NOT to reload. I don't have to waste my time reloading.

So, with all due respect, I'd ask you to consider taking all your obnoxious "I reload" comments and putting them, gently, with extra lube, right up into that place where the star in our solar system does not shine.

Peace and love. Peace and love.
Respectful reply.
I, too, can afford to simply buy the ammo I want. I reload a lot because I want to. For different reasons. First, I do enjoy it.
Now for 9mm... I buy. For 10mm I reload. For tailored performance and selected projectile reasons. Most factory 10mm is weak. And for Buffalo Bore or Underwood costs, I can reload for 1/2 cost.
Rifle, I reload for the most part. I have not found factory ammo that shoots as well as I reload. For 5.56, I do both. Mostly buy, but reload some others because I want to. .308 I buy because I don't precision shoot .308.
All I am saying is don't be so quick to cast that blanket of righteous indignation at folks doing what they can with what they got. In their own preferred way, they are getting "ammo'd up" and I think we can all agree that is a good thing.

So, I want to know what you two gents do for a living?
 
This^^^^^. I have no stockpiles.

I do a load development project for each rifle I own, zero the rifles with the load, and then produce a reasonable amount of ammunition using those results. Like enough to sustain a day's practice at the range. IMHO, anything larger that what can be transported at any one time, without long notice and special means, could not serve me well in any 'real life' scenario.

For another thing, I don't like having ammunition around more than a year or so. I've found that bullets and case necks bond in actually pretty brief periods, making ES/SD numbers wildly dissimilar. Accuracy can go away with ammunition age.

I've had bullets that cannot be removed using a collet puller, in less than two weeks after production. I wonder if folks who experience pressure spikes, or worse, have ever considered such a situation.

Greg


You either need to wax the necks like factory, or leave the carbon in the case necks. Sonic cleaners and the obsession of spotless cases inside and out have created a new problem.

I've had stuff I loaded 10 years ago shoot just as good. It was fired cases with the carbon still there to act as a buffer between copper and brass.
 
reasons to have decent amount of ammo:
price may go up, does it ever go down?
availability uncertainty
tax or legislation pending or threatened
massive zombie invasion in which you must save humanity
other possible conflicts which shall remain unspoken
 
Serge:

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Serge may refer to:
Surge:

surge (plural surges)
  1. A sudden transient rush, flood or increase. quotations ▼ He felt a surge of excitement.
  2. The maximum amplitude of a vehicle's forward/backward oscillation
  3. (electricity) A sudden electrical spike or increase of voltage and current. A power surge at that generator created a blackout across the whole district.
  4. (nautical) The swell or heave of the sea. (FM 55-501). quotations ▼
  5. (obsolete) A spring; a fountain. quotations ▼
  6. The tapered part of a windlass barrel or a capstan, upon which the cable surges, or slips.

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I respect everyone opinion on the need for various firearms and calibers, but I am a bit surprised that a suppressed .22 handgun and rifle hasn't been mentioned as a must have.
Mostly do to the fact they are so common in many places they are considered as important as air, water an food to many.
 
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Give this a week and it'll go away like a fart in the wind. Buy the 20th, we'll all have moved onto some other bullshit.

People who incite a buying panic are dildos. However, everyone needs to be stocking up over time, naturally.
 
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I would agree the vernerable .22 firearm and its ammunition are plentiful, but suppressed not so much. Having them suppressed makes them a discrete and valuable tool for many situations.
400-600grs at max sub speed makes big leaking holes at 600yds, an 195gr + 30 cal's will do the same depending,...
 
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Some time back a few friends took on a thought experiment employing the Savage 220 20ga Slug Rifle.

It was proposed that handloads employing a conventional sabot and .458 Magnum Hunting projectiles should have ballistics similar to the traditional 45-70 buffalo hunter loads, but a far better BC.

Never got off the ground, AFAIK; but it looked good on paper.

Greg