Rifle Scopes Lot of Bushnell 3.5-21 G2DMR for sale suddenly

[rg1911]

Going through the Optics for Sale section, I saw several posts for the Bushnell Tactical Elite 3.5-21 G2DMR. Since I now have the money, this one, with the Vortex Razor 5-20, is on my short list.

Are people finding problems with the Bushnell, looking to trade up to the next generation, ...?

Thank you,
Richard

 

[021411]

Re: Lot of Bushnell 3.5-21 G2DMR for sale suddenly

I think people are just getting geared up for new releases. Usually happens this time of year.. After SHOT and/or start of new shooting season.

 

[77grain]

Re: Lot of Bushnell 3.5-21 G2DMR for sale suddenly

people are probably thinking by selling now they can beat the rush to unload the gen 1's

spoke to bushnell and the new one is due out late this month or early March

sucks though that they didn't listen to the wants of the people and still aren't illuminating the reticle, that was a deal breaker for me otherwise would have bought 2-3 of them

 

[FLIGHT762]

Re: Lot of Bushnell 3.5-21 G2DMR for sale suddenly

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 77grain</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
sucks though that they didn't listen to the wants of the people and still aren't illuminating the reticle, that was a deal breaker for me otherwise would have bought 2-3 of them </div></div>

Very true. One of our local P D's are getting some new Gap 10's and had Bushnell listened about the lit reticle there would be a few more bought. It is a deal breaker. Too bad.

 

[A10XRIFLE]

Re: Lot of Bushnell 3.5-21 G2DMR for sale suddenly

The New 4-30 just came out, and the 3.5-21 with a 10 min knob and zero stop.

People are upgrading!!

 

[locobob]

Re: Lot of Bushnell 3.5-21 G2DMR for sale suddenly

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 77grain</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
sucks though that they didn't listen to the wants of the people and still aren't illuminating the reticle, that was a deal breaker for me otherwise would have bought 2-3 of them </div></div>

Yup! Me too.

 

[Joe L]

Re: Lot of Bushnell 3.5-21 G2DMR for sale suddenly

I've got a 2012 version that I am very happy with, so its a win/win--good prices/deals on the earlier models and some excellent and welcome upgrades for 2013.
Joe

 

[Josh Elam]

Re: Lot of Bushnell 3.5-21 G2DMR for sale suddenly

I really like my 3x21 and just received the 4x30 yesterday. I dont have the new 4 x 30 on a rifle yet but I will get it out when the weather gets nicer and compare it to the 3x21 and my favorite s&b 3x20.

 

[mavrick]

Re: Lot of Bushnell 3.5-21 G2DMR for sale suddenly

I would love to scoop up another 2012 model I love my two I already have, And I heard bushy would upgrade your 5mil knobs for the new 10mil zero stops but don't quote me on that

 

[BravoSector1]

Re: Lot of Bushnell 3.5-21 G2DMR for sale suddenly

You guys have got me looking at the Bushy's. I've got a Tikka T3 Tactical in .223 enroute and was looking at Nightforce, I run one on a TRG, but I just pulled up the Bushnell Elite Tactical line that midway carries and the 4.5-30 looks pretty good for under $1k. For a guy not shooting past 800m in a .223...would it do the job?

 

[mobius38]

Re: Lot of Bushnell 3.5-21 G2DMR for sale suddenly

I own 2 of the original HDMR's and the new 4.5-30 and I can tell you that I am impressed with them. Do I wish they were illuminated. Yes. But for me its not a deal killer. Owned a Razor and in the time I had it never once turned it on. So no need from me on that end. Once less thing to go wrong.

 

[scudzuki]

Re: Lot of Bushnell 3.5-21 G2DMR for sale suddenly

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BravoSector1</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You guys have got me looking at the Bushy's. I've got a Tikka T3 Tactical in .223 enroute and was looking at Nightforce, I run one on a TRG, but I just pulled up the Bushnell Elite Tactical line that midway carries and the 4.5-30 looks pretty good for under $1k. For a guy not shooting past 800m in a .223...would it do the job? </div></div>

The 4.5-30 for under $1000 is not in the same league as the new one based on the DMR. I've read it does not have the glass quality to carry 30x. I think you'd be better off looking for a 1st gen DMR for under $1200. Last week grabagun had the DMR with G2DMR reticle for $1175 shipped, in case the used ones dry up.

edit they still do here

Joe

 

[LoneWolfUSMC]

Re: Lot of Bushnell 3.5-21 G2DMR for sale suddenly

Bushnell has stated that they will continue to make the HDMR along side the new LRS (second gen HDMR) and the XRS (4.5-30x).

So no worry about then "drying up". Each occupies a different price point (HDMR vs. LRS) so that is a good thing.

 

[neeley205]

Re: Lot of Bushnell 3.5-21 G2DMR for sale suddenly

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: A10XRIFLE</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The New 4-30 just came out, and the 3.5-21 with a 10 min knob and zero stop.

People are upgrading!!</div></div>

Upgrade away! Ill be right here waiting to snatch up a couple nice used ones.

 

[Jeeprider]

Re: Lot of Bushnell 3.5-21 G2DMR for sale suddenly

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LoneWolfUSMC</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Bushnell has stated that they will continue to make the HDMR along side the new LRS (second gen HDMR) and the XRS (4.5-30x).

So no worry about then "drying up". Each occupies a different price point (HDMR vs. LRS) so that is a good thing. </div></div>

Yes, It's just 2 more scopes Bushnell is adding to their lineup. I have my HDMR on my .223 bolt gun and love it. The original HDMR isn't going anywhere. The Bushnell line is growing.

 

[Joop]

Re: Lot of Bushnell 3.5-21 G2DMR for sale suddenly

Yep. The lack of illumination is horrible, so please don't buy one (because I want to make sure I can find one in stock in a few weeks!).

 

[77grain]

Re: Lot of Bushnell 3.5-21 G2DMR for sale suddenly

hey no need to bash someone's wants, certain people really need this feature. It's even more aggravating because Bushnell has illuminated reticles on many of the far "lesser" scopes they sell and since this scope is marketed towards mil/LEO use I find the lack of this feature to be particularly unforgivable

The HDMR and now it's gen 2 successor is absolutely PERFECT on paper for what I need with this one glaring exception

it literally has everything else I could ever want: glass, magnification range, 34mm tube, reticle choice, and price point but this lacking of the illuminated reticle is enough to break the entire deal for some people, me included.

I could have just about bought 3 gen 1's or 2 gen 2's for the price of one S&B

 

[SFree]

Re: Lot of Bushnell 3.5-21 G2DMR for sale suddenly

Optical clarity in low light conditions is MUCH more important than an illuminated reticle, especially when said lit reticle washes out the target in a low light condition and you loose your night vision momentarily.
Bushnell has it going in the right direction

 

[scudzuki]

Re: Lot of Bushnell 3.5-21 G2DMR for sale suddenly

My guess is they were looking to come in at a particular price point and illumination on other mid to high end optics typically drives the price up $300 to $500. It may also create some compromise in an area of the design that they were not willing to concede... but I'm no optics engineer.

Joe

 

[Pointman308]

Re: Lot of Bushnell 3.5-21 G2DMR for sale suddenly

^^^^^^THIS!

 

[77grain]

Re: Lot of Bushnell 3.5-21 G2DMR for sale suddenly

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SFree</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Optical clarity in low light conditions is MUCH more important than an illuminated reticle, especially when said lit reticle washes out the target in a low light condition and you loose your night vision momentarily.
Bushnell has it going in the right direction</div></div>

yes thank you for that

now if you expect me to believe that bushnell's glass is on par with the likes of S&B or USO who illuminate their reticles... well.....

last I heard they still have issues with chromatic aberration which for the price point might be a willing concession for a lot of folks (myself included) but I would find it very difficult to believe their glass is going to be THAT good at the 1500-2k price level

 

[2Shots]

Re: Lot of Bushnell 3.5-21 G2DMR for sale suddenly

Buy one, yes new models have come out but these are nice scopes, take advantage of the new model rush and get one. You won't be sorry, I still like that G2 reticle over my NF F1.

 

[scudzuki]

Re: Lot of Bushnell 3.5-21 G2DMR for sale suddenly

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 77grain</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SFree</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Optical clarity in low light conditions is MUCH more important than an illuminated reticle, especially when said lit reticle washes out the target in a low light condition and you loose your night vision momentarily.
Bushnell has it going in the right direction</div></div>

yes thank you for that

now if you expect me to believe that bushnell's glass is on par with the likes of S&B or USO who illuminate their reticles... well.....

last I heard they still have issues with chromatic aberration which for the price point might be a willing concession for a lot of folks (myself included) but I would find it very difficult to believe their glass is going to be THAT good at the 1500-2k price level </div></div>

No one has made the claim that the Bushy glass is as good as S&B and USO. They are, however, proven, with good reticle choices, lots of internal adjustment, and WAY cheaper.

The XRS with a 4-30 range will have a street price a bit over $2k.
The new S&B 3-27 is going to cost $6k. It will have better glass and illumination for nearly 3 times the cost.

What a bargain.

Joe

 

[77grain]

Re: Lot of Bushnell 3.5-21 G2DMR for sale suddenly

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: scudzuki</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 77grain</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SFree</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Optical clarity in low light conditions is MUCH more important than an illuminated reticle, especially when said lit reticle washes out the target in a low light condition and you loose your night vision momentarily.
Bushnell has it going in the right direction</div></div>

yes thank you for that

now if you expect me to believe that bushnell's glass is on par with the likes of S&B or USO who illuminate their reticles... well.....

last I heard they still have issues with chromatic aberration which for the price point might be a willing concession for a lot of folks (myself included) but I would find it very difficult to believe their glass is going to be THAT good at the 1500-2k price level </div></div>

No one has made the claim that the Bushy glass is as good as S&B and USO. They are, however, proven, with good reticle choices, lots of internal adjustment, and WAY cheaper.

The XRS with a 4-30 range will have a street price a bit over $2k.
The new S&B 3-27 is going to cost $6k. It will have better glass and illumination for nearly 3 times the cost.

What a bargain.

Joe</div></div>

funny that you took that much effort to lecture me and in the end agreed with everything I said

S&B and USO have better glass than Bushnell, we all know this. Yet they still choose to offer illuminated reticles

hmmmmmmm....

USO has an upcharge of just about a couple hundred bucks for the option so let's say Bushnell decided to do the same.

now here's where you make the same point as myself....

I could buy the HDMR gen one or two with an additional cost for the illumination, then buy another one, and possibly even another one yet for the price of the S&B

follow me?

I assure you that however many gen2 HDMR's they end up selling in the next year in the current format, they could minimum of double it with this one simple option even if there was the surcharge. There are SO many people that want everything this scope has (along with illumination) who can't afford S&B but could definitely afford the Bushy.

Huge oversight on their part

 

[DOA]

Re: Lot of Bushnell 3.5-21 G2DMR for sale suddenly

I believe I heard that adding illumination to this G2 reticle was impossible or at least not possible meeting this price point.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 77grain</div><div class="ubbcode-body">hey no need to bash someone's wants, certain people really need this feature. It's even more aggravating because Bushnell has illuminated reticles on many of the far "lesser" scopes they sell and since this scope is marketed towards mil/LEO use I find the lack of this feature to be particularly unforgivable

The HDMR and now it's gen 2 successor is absolutely PERFECT on paper for what I need with this one glaring exception

it literally has everything else I could ever want: glass, magnification range, 34mm tube, reticle choice, and price point but this lacking of the illuminated reticle is enough to break the entire deal for some people, me included.
</div></div>

 

[Jon Lester]

Re: Lot of Bushnell 3.5-21 G2DMR for sale suddenly

HDMRs were developed to a specific clientele from their inception. The original(And ongoing) spec specified no ilum on the reticle. Seems with unlimited night vision equipt, ilum is a no go. So the lighting of the reticle has not been a part of the scope since it came on line.

 

[77grain]

Re: Lot of Bushnell 3.5-21 G2DMR for sale suddenly

For military I would presume you are correct with full access to clip on NV's but good luck with that theory for the majority of departments, many of which are in the process of laying off officers with budget cuts as it is, let alone trying to find spare cash for NV

I personally like the option of lighting the reticle even during the day depending on the type of backdrop behind the target

like I said, it's just a shame, I would have been happy to pay a surcharge - but especially since they offer it on numerous of their lesser scopes

 

[remau308]

Re: Lot of Bushnell 3.5-21 G2DMR for sale suddenly

77grain, have you ever owned a USO or the new 4.5-30 Bushnell XRS? Well, I have, as well as Hensoldt, Premier, and Schmidt and Bender, and after owning all those scopes...I am very impreseed with the new XRS. Their glass is on par with USO. As for the CA, USO has problems with it as well, and I've seen it on one of their top of the line 5-25 $3,300 TPAL's. Now, given, I've never seen CA on a Schmidt and Bender, Hensoldt or Premier, but that's not how you judge a scope. The new Bushnell are very impressive. You need to use one for yourself before you place judgement.

As for illumination, I can't think of a single competition I've ever had to use an illuminated reticle, and these scopes weren't designed for hunting. There are much better options for a hunting rifle, but for a long range rig, there are few scopes I would put above the new Bushnell XRS. Not to mention, despite the extreme mag range, I still get 24 mils of up travel zeroed at 100 yards with a 30MOA base...that's a lot.

 

[77grain]

Re: Lot of Bushnell 3.5-21 G2DMR for sale suddenly

I appreciate your input. I have not owned a USO but have used them on friend's rigs. I do own one S&B however

The CA issue I actually have no issue with, it doesn't bother me - especially at the price.

I understand your contention about it not being the best (optimal) scope for hunting, however I like to stick to everything with the same reticle regardless of use for my own consistency (just a personal preference) and therefore that is why the FFP Bushnell peaked my interest

I will say this, I would be willing to purchase one and give it a fair evaluation because I do think Bushnell is a good company and run by good people.

 

[locobob]

Re: Lot of Bushnell 3.5-21 G2DMR for sale suddenly

Personally I want and would be willing to pay extra for an illuminated reticle, I don't really care what other people think is needed or not - they can spend their cash as they see fit and I will spend mine as I see fit.

 

[scudzuki]

Re: Lot of Bushnell 3.5-21 G2DMR for sale suddenly

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 77grain</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: scudzuki</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 77grain</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SFree</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Optical clarity in low light conditions is MUCH more important than an illuminated reticle, especially when said lit reticle washes out the target in a low light condition and you loose your night vision momentarily.
Bushnell has it going in the right direction</div></div>

yes thank you for that

now if you expect me to believe that bushnell's glass is on par with the likes of S&B or USO who illuminate their reticles... well.....

last I heard they still have issues with chromatic aberration which for the price point might be a willing concession for a lot of folks (myself included) but I would find it very difficult to believe their glass is going to be THAT good at the 1500-2k price level </div></div>

No one has made the claim that the Bushy glass is as good as S&B and USO. They are, however, proven, with good reticle choices, lots of internal adjustment, and WAY cheaper.

The XRS with a 4-30 range will have a street price a bit over $2k.
The new S&B 3-27 is going to cost $6k. It will have better glass and illumination for nearly 3 times the cost.

What a bargain.

Joe</div></div>

<span style="color: #FF0000">funny</span> that you took that much effort to lecture me and in the end agreed with everything I said

S&B and USO have better glass than Bushnell, we all know this. Yet they still choose to offer illuminated reticles

hmmmmmmm....

USO has an upcharge of just about a couple hundred bucks for the option so let's say Bushnell decided to do the same.

now here's where you make the same point as myself....

I could buy the HDMR gen one or two with an additional cost for the illumination, then buy another one, and possibly even another one yet for the price of the S&B

follow me?

I assure you that however many gen2 HDMR's they end up selling in the next year in the current format, they could minimum of double it with this one simple option even if there was the surcharge. There are SO many people that want everything this scope has (along with illumination) who can't afford S&B but could definitely afford the Bushy.

Huge oversight on their part

</div></div>

Glad I could amuse you.

I suspect that Bushnell will get right on it now that you've illuminated (pun intended) the error of their ways.

Meanwhile I'll continue to enjoy the excellent performance and value of my DMR and ET6245 which were both built sans illumination.

Joe

 

[77grain]

Re: Lot of Bushnell 3.5-21 G2DMR for sale suddenly

right Joe, because I'm the ONLY guy who ever wanted an illuminated reticle and was willing to pay extra for it.

Only guy I tell ya.. no one else anywhere.

Even with better glass S&B and USO must have those features just for fun - because everyone always keeps them off

Yes you did amuse me, but for reasons I don't think you fully comprehend. Thank you!

 

[E. Bryant]

Re: Lot of Bushnell 3.5-21 G2DMR for sale suddenly

The question is not whether or not a person wants a particular feature; it's a matter of how many would actually shell out the money vs. the cost of designing and producing said feature. The business models of some companies allow them to offer a large number of features in an "a la carte" fashion; others find it better to engage in a "take it or leave it" approach.

The great thing about the free market is that it is up to the customer to make a decision for himself. The process of voting with your dollars is the best feedback mechanism known to man, and is far more effective that making "if only..." statements on the Internet.

 

[77grain]

Re: Lot of Bushnell 3.5-21 G2DMR for sale suddenly

you are correct about the free market sir. My point is that if I'm a guy thinking about dropping two grand on a Bushnell (seriously just think about that and ponder it for a minute) would I not be willing to drop 100-200 extra for the last feature they could ever really include on a top end scope.

I certainly would be, as would many many others.

I also think the opposite is true, if someone wants the Gen2 and it included illumination but was 2200 instead of 2k how many people are going to say ahh screw it I'm not going to buy it now? Very very few.

And if you hate illumination leave the f***ing button turned off. Better to have it and never need it then the opposite.

 

[rg1911]

Re: Lot of Bushnell 3.5-21 G2DMR for sale suddenly

Well, I sold one of my machineguns (at a loss, but I paid too much for it) so I finally have the cash for a good scope for the long-range rifle being built for me. I've been using a Leupold 6.5-20 scope on my AR-15, and have determined that a bit more available magnification would be a good thing for me. So the new Bushnell XRS 4-30 suddenly went to the top of my list.

Frankly, I'm not experienced enough to worry about illuminated reticles.

Richard

 

[E. Bryant]

Re: Lot of Bushnell 3.5-21 G2DMR for sale suddenly

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 77grain</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I certainly would be, as would many many others.</div></div>

Having done quite a bit of new product development and marketing in my time as an engineer, I would simply warn anyone against making assumptions about the number of potential buyers based upon their own preferences. Furthermore, it's important to weigh the value of such customers against the cost required to attract them; sure, there may be another few dozen people who would change their buying habits based upon the presence or absence of a particular feature, but the potential profit realized from those customers may be far outweighed by the cost of developing and implementing said feature.

 

[77grain]

Re: Lot of Bushnell 3.5-21 G2DMR for sale suddenly

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: E. Bryant</div><div class="ubbcode-body">but the potential profit realized from those customers may be far outweighed by the cost of developing and implementing said feature.</div></div>

"developing" a feature they've offered for years in their cheap scopes?

I'm finding this humorous and yet a little sad how many people think this is some wild, unfounded and uncommon desire in a scope

ah well, after all it is the interwebz

 

[Joop]

Re: Lot of Bushnell 3.5-21 G2DMR for sale suddenly

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 77grain</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: E. Bryant</div><div class="ubbcode-body">but the potential profit realized from those customers may be far outweighed by the cost of developing and implementing said feature.</div></div>

"developing" a feature they've offered for years in their cheap scopes?

I'm finding this humorous and yet a little sad how many people think this is some wild, unfounded and uncommon desire in a scope

ah well, after all it is the interwebz </div></div>
Just curious; which of Bushnell's scopes offer the G2 and Horus reticles that are illuminated?

 

[E. Bryant]

Re: Lot of Bushnell 3.5-21 G2DMR for sale suddenly

77grain,

Maybe you should fill out your profile, so that we can learn why it is that you are qualified to make an accurate assessment of this task's difficulty. If you're going to chide other for their observations, then it would be wise to demonstrate why they are wrong instead of making flippant remarks.

 

[77grain]

Re: Lot of Bushnell 3.5-21 G2DMR for sale suddenly

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Joop</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Just curious; which of Bushnell's scopes offer the G2 and Horus reticles that are illuminated?</div></div>

LOL good stuff!

and yet even horus vision themselves can at least light up a few dots in the center of the falcon

 

[77grain]

Re: Lot of Bushnell 3.5-21 G2DMR for sale suddenly

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: E. Bryant</div><div class="ubbcode-body">77grain,

Maybe you should fill out your profile, so that we can learn why it is that you are qualified to make an accurate assessment of this task's difficulty. If you're going to chide other for their observations, then it would be wise to demonstrate why they are wrong instead of making flippant remarks. </div></div>

interesting revisional observation you make here

 

[poison123]

Re: Lot of Bushnell 3.5-21 G2DMR for sale suddenly

77grain is a troll. Just block his dumb ass.

 

[Joop]

Re: Lot of Bushnell 3.5-21 G2DMR for sale suddenly

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 77grain</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Joop</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Just curious; which of Bushnell's scopes offer the G2 and Horus reticles that are illuminated?</div></div>

LOL good stuff!

and yet even horus vision themselves can at least light up a few dots in the center of the falcon

</div></div>
Oh, so you're just trolling. Sorry for the confusion.

 

[77grain]

Re: Lot of Bushnell 3.5-21 G2DMR for sale suddenly

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Joop</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 77grain</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Joop</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Just curious; which of Bushnell's scopes offer the G2 and Horus reticles that are illuminated?</div></div>

LOL good stuff!

and yet even horus vision themselves can at least light up a few dots in the center of the falcon

</div></div>
Oh, so you're just trolling. Sorry for the confusion.</div></div>

oh noes! The joop is on to me. I Guess I'll just have to find a way to deal with it.

Show me where I ever said anything about bushnell having prior offered this feature in an hdmr or on these reticles and you can be taken seriously. Otherwise you're the troll

 

[poison123]

Re: Lot of Bushnell 3.5-21 G2DMR for sale suddenly

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 77grain</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Joop</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 77grain</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Joop</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Just curious; which of Bushnell's scopes offer the G2 and Horus reticles that are illuminated?</div></div>

LOL good stuff!

and yet even horus vision themselves can at least light up a few dots in the center of the falcon

</div></div>
Oh, so you're just trolling. Sorry for the confusion.</div></div>

oh noes! The joop is on to me. I Guess I'll just have to find a way to deal with it.

Show me where I ever said anything about bushnell having prior offered this feature in an hdmr or on these reticles and you can be taken seriously. Otherwise you're the troll </div></div>


I think you have adequately demonstrated to us that you are in fact the troll.

 

[77grain]

Re: Lot of Bushnell 3.5-21 G2DMR for sale suddenly

poison if you really think me expressing my sorrow that bushnell didn't offer illumination in this new scope was an exercise in trolling then I actually feel sorry for you.

They were obviously looking to improve upon the HDMR with the new gen2, they even took the trouble to increase the mils per rev when they have at least two holdover reticles. I'm sorry you for whatever can't understand this but there are a lot of people who feel like they dropped the ball on the one yard line - even if covering that last bit of ground meant raising the price a bit

 

[Defuzer]

Re: Lot of Bushnell 3.5-21 G2DMR for sale suddenly

I have one of the Gen1's and plan on keeping.

no issues and knew it didn't have illum going in. i use illum on scopes less than I use the auto start thing on my truck. and that is saying something.

 

[poison123]

Re: Lot of Bushnell 3.5-21 G2DMR for sale suddenly

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 77grain</div><div class="ubbcode-body">poison if you really think me expressing my sorrow that bushnell didn't offer illumination in this new scope was an exercise in trolling then I actually feel sorry for you.

They were obviously looking to improve upon the HDMR with the new gen2, they even took the trouble to increase the mils per rev when they have at least two holdover reticles. I'm sorry you for whatever can't understand this but there are a lot of people who feel like they dropped the ball on the one yard line - even if covering that last bit of ground meant raising the price a bit

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Your still coming off as a troll bro.

 

[77grain]

Re: Lot of Bushnell 3.5-21 G2DMR for sale suddenly

I can see how you would make that conclusion. You come off as having a very low IQ

 

[poison123]

Re: Lot of Bushnell 3.5-21 G2DMR for sale suddenly

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 77grain</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I can see how you would make that conclusion. You come off as having a very low IQ </div></div>


lol if thats the best you got, your not going to last here.