Low Velocity from New Rifle

The smith has a good reputation and everybody knows the shop name. I'll leave it at that. My build is obviously a fluke because I've not heard of any problems from other people.

Any chance the barrel you provided has a slightly different land/groove DIA, especial in the throat. Maybe something in the finishing of your chambering effected this area.

Keep us posted on the old barrel, maybe the guy that has it can slug it.
 
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Man that's scary, a well known company potential has their hand in this and from what I read throught the thread has basically told you to shoot it and see if it gets better. I don't mean to stir up things, I think it might warrant a mention for other people in this situation and later down the road if things like this happen again.

Yeah really, if your a big shop and you do pretty well
It's not in this thread, it's in a different thread.

Thanks for that, I found what I was looking for...
 
Yep, I agree. I'm sending it all off (with a new Bartlein barrel, to rule out a bore issue) to the smith who did my first rifle. I should have just gone with him to begin with. But I wanted to try another shop that's highly regarded, just to see what all the fuss was about.
I am kinda curious why you didn't go back with another Hawk Hill barrel, especially since you think it might be a builder issue.
 
I switched to Bartlein to eliminate Hawk Hill as a potential variable since my other Bartlein barrels have been good. And because when I contacted Hawk Hill about the slow velocity they washed their hands of it. So I won't be supporting them going forward. Same goes for the rifle smith.
 
I switched to Bartlein to eliminate Hawk Hill as a potential variable since my other Bartlein barrels have been good. And because when I contacted Hawk Hill about the slow velocity they washed their hands of it. So I won't be supporting them going forward. Same goes for the rifle smith.
I’d wait to see if it really was the smith or the barrel
 
And his other barrel was REALLY fast. Between the two, they average out.
Seriously. I haven't seen a barrel sling factory Hornady 140gr ELD-M much faster than 2700. My own 26" Bartlein does around 2715, tops and that was with a "fast" lot - a more recent lot in my old rifle (sold it to an acquaintance) shoots it about 50fps slower than the lot I had.
 
Guys, the velocity isn't the only issue here. The gun just did not shoot well and there are some problems with the chamber job. I can see this discussion slowly starting to turn against me. In another page everyone is going to start saying I just can't shoot well lol. So I'm gonna bow out here until I have further info.
 
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Seriously. I haven't seen a barrel sling factory Hornady 140gr ELD-M much faster than 2700. My own 26" Bartlein does around 2715, tops and that was with a "fast" lot - a more recent lot in my old rifle (sold it to an acquaintance) shoots it about 50fps slower than the lot I had.

My last two Hawkhill barrels shot factory 140's at ~2770 fps. My Bartlein barrel before that was even faster.

My 21" barreled .308 slings factory 178 ammo faster than the OP's 26" 6.5 creedmoor shooting 140's.

On top of that, the OP's rifle doesn't even shoot that good. Slow ammo AND poor accuracy? That's no bueno.

Unless Hornady has really slowed down their factory ammo lately, you guys have some really slow barrels.

I have no dog in this fight, but to think that 2600 fps is reasonable to expect out of a 6.5 creedmoor with a 26" barrel is ridiculous.
 
Guys, the velocity isn't the only issue here. The gun just did not shoot well and there are some problems with the chamber job. I can see this discussion slowly starting to turn against me. In another page everyone is going to start saying I just can't shoot well lol. So I'm gonna bow out here until I have further info.
I am just giving you hell. All in fun. I fully understand velocity isn't your only problem. It is just funny to me that you have a sample of both extremes and I was making light of it.
My last two Hawkhill barrels shot factory 140's at ~2770 fps. My Bartlein barrel before that was even faster.

My 21" barreled .308 slings factory 178 ammo faster than the OP's 26" 6.5 creedmoor shooting 140's.

On top of that, the OP's rifle doesn't even shoot that good. Slow ammo AND poor accuracy? That's no bueno.

Unless Hornady has really slowed down their factory ammo lately, you guys have some really slow barrels.

I have no dog in this fight, but to think that 2600 fps is reasonable to expect out of a 6.5 creedmoor with a 26" barrel is ridiculous.
I have a new bartlein 26" and my friends savage 26" both shoot 2700fps with hornady 70 degrees at sea level. My tikka 24" factory barrel gets 2650fps. These aren't figured off a chrono. They are trued at 835yds. Maybe the recent hornady lots have been slower, I wouldn't know. 2600 fps out of a 26" barrel is slow. I don't remember if the OP ever stated his temperature because hornady ammo loses about 1.5fps per degree of temperature. American Gunner does at least. I haven't shot the eld-m loads in cooler weather yet. The OP did state that he has a rifle that shoots much faster with the same ammo so he definitely has issues there.
 
I do wonder if Hornady slowed this load down. I bought some when the eldm was new and got 2845 from a 24" Krieger. I haven't bought any since, just Prime, but the numbers I'm hearing more recently make me concerned and not excited to buy more Hornady factory ammo.
 
Guys, the velocity isn't the only issue here. The gun just did not shoot well and there are some problems with the chamber job. I can see this discussion slowly starting to turn against me. In another page everyone is going to start saying I just can't shoot well lol. So I'm gonna bow out here until I have further info.

I'm not siding against you, in my opinion the smith should have made it right as well as Hawk Hill.. We pay too much hard earned money for these rifles for issues like this, when you receive a new rifle it should damn well shoot... Mr Beanland will get ya straight!
 
Guys, the velocity isn't the only issue here. The gun just did not shoot well and there are some problems with the chamber job. I can see this discussion slowly starting to turn against me. In another page everyone is going to start saying I just can't shoot well lol. So I'm gonna bow out here until I have further info.

Just email/forum comunications.. I don’t think anyone is against you.

The symptoms you describe run similar to a barrel that is shot out. That’s why the throat are is suspect. Weather it is a bad barrel or bad chambering.. I don’t see how anyone can do anything more than feel your pain.

My 26” 6.5 shoots Factory Hornady at 2810 my 24” about 2740. 2600 is not ok
 
I'm not siding against you, in my opinion the smith should have made it right as well as Hawk Hill.. We pay too much hard earned money for these rifles for issues like this, when you receive a new rifle it should damn well shoot... Mr Beanland will get ya straight!

Agreed. With the cost and wait associated with these rifles there shouldn't be any issue with them and if there is the businesses involved should be more than willing to step in and help.