Maggie’s M1A .."Sniper" really stretches the limits .......

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Re: M1A .."Sniper" really stretches the limits .......

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Will</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Ken, with all the changes of the UP modded 14s and the improvements of the AR10 platforms...Which would you choose to go with now if you had a choice ? Why ? heh heh heh </div></div>
With still having mussle memory for the E-2 (even at my age)it gets my vote. Another reason is the phobia instilled in me by the AR's back when. I understand the pros an cons of both, but having a known everywhere that preformed w/o issue I'll take, if it ain't broken for 500 Alex.
Training is the key no matter the system, every system has issues, it's being able to bypass and overcome them. The weapon dictates tactics, not the other way around. Never seen anyone try to use a 155mm or 4 duce as a room clearing weapon (thru the door anyway).
Those that say a 14 and it's food is heavy yes it is, but PE will correct that, and when loaded out the 10 is right there with my E-2. You know as well as any one to get something you have to give up something, I'll give up ammo count vs hitting the target be, he, in the open, or behind a barricade.
Then you have those that say it's to long for entry, will we never had those issues because we would toss in a few frags, or set it on fire an wait to see if they still wanted to out run a M60 ball rd.
The guys that bitch the most about one or the other most likely have never been trained on the "other".

 

[WillAdams]

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Good points. On the other hand I'd take an AR10. I didn't carry the 14 in the field like you (at least not as much)mostly match ranges & the reason I'd go AR is almost simple ... you don't stick out like a sore M1 thumb with a different looking weapon. Sure it's a bit larger than the what the rest of the squad carries but from a distance you won't be picked out as a LD gunner or sniper by a enemy sniper.

Have a good New Year.

 

[Maggot]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Will</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Good points. On the other hand I'd take an AR10. I didn't carry the 14 in the field like you (at least not as much)mostly match ranges & the reason I'd go AR is almost simple ... you don't stick out like a sore M1 thumb with a different looking weapon. Sure it's a bit larger than the what the rest of the squad carries but from a distance you won't be picked out as a LD gunner or sniper by a enemy sniper.

Have a good New Year. </div></div>

The AR 10does have the ability to easily add on lots of tacticool accessories...lights, lasers, god knows what else. The M1A just feels better in my hand...kind of like a cold can of beer on a hot summer day, or a 1911 as opposed to a Berretta.

 

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Re: M1A .."Sniper" really stretches the limits .......

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Will</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Good points. On the other hand I'd take an AR10. I didn't carry the 14 in the field like you (at least not as much)mostly match ranges & the reason I'd go AR is almost simple ... you don't stick out like a sore M1 thumb with a different looking weapon. Sure it's a bit larger than the what the rest of the squad carries but from a distance you won't be picked out as a LD gunner or sniper by a enemy sniper.

Have a good New Year. </div></div>
Winnie an H&R both built take down, scoped bolts, (Back then) that would fit between your back and a med Alice for that purpose. You carried what everyone else did, then melted away. Talk was the H&R out preformed the Whinny, both were 30-06. I seen them but never got, to shoot one.

 

[wilsey]

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Rock it out!!

 

[WillAdams]

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Yessir & back in the day I had a Ruger 22LR that "Looked" like a normal 678 Match but was quiet as hell with correct fodder !!!
BTW, I'm not worried about tacticool crap but realtime useful on a deployed basis. IF you look every other guy in your squad, Plt, whatever on patrol but your rifle is just a bit bigger you are less likely to be singled out. On the other hand if you have a totally different weapons system ... guess who is going to be targeted ??

 

[Maggot]

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A question for you other OBG's (old but good)...Does a muzzle break like the ones SA sell for the M1A really help with recoil. Never found it to be a problem...but with recoil, less is better. Is it worth the investment?

 

[WillAdams]

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One word ... YES

 

[Guest]

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Might be true or not, depending? If the world wants to go AR I have no problem with that. The world that I believe, is coming our way will be somewhat different, than past times.
The AR like, the M14, AK, ect is not the be all, end all.
That resides in the ability and heart of the tote'er. If technology was the deciding issue, we would have not lost anytime to date, nor fought shit as long.

The ability of those little folks and skinnys plus their weapons and resupply ability was never questioned at the beginning, but at the end we realized top of the line TO&E meant nothing. Thuds and F4's(w/o guns) vs Mig 15's and AK 47's or F16's vs no Airforce, we should have mopped up both but that not be the case. It's been about the guy that can operate what he has, run the tactics required so as to provide the tool the ability to do it's job. We all laugh at the skinny shooting the AK over his head, but I can tell you I've seen a whole company open up on one gook and after they were out of ammo in the first mags, he was still running until a single round from a scoped POS 91/30 dropped his ass.
User ability an the ability to change tactics in mid stream is and has been the winning combo, we always seem to think a new or better gizmo is were it's at, the American way. The F4U and MD F4 Phantom have proved the American theory,...with enough Horse Power we can make a rock fly, but our win loss ratio still sucks.

 

[WillAdams]

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Add on... not w/ 308 but shooting a 338 (actually 2 of them) AR platforms... fired a bunch of rounds at 600 one day and shot using brake & not using brake . Major difference. IF it helps control recoil (perceived or otherwise) try/use it.

 

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Re: M1A .."Sniper" really stretches the limits .......

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: maggot</div><div class="ubbcode-body">A question for you other OBG's (old but good)...Does a muzzle break like the ones SA sell for the M1A really help with recoil. Never found it to be a problem...but with recoil, less is better. Is it worth the investment? </div></div>
Don't know anything about those, but like Will said, anything that reduces recoil, w/o affecting performance is a good thing. How is it, for flash at Night?
Something that will limit your over all ability to preform not only effects you, but those who are with you.