March rimfire challenge

[Rangemaster]

Is there a challenge for the rimfire this coming month? Going out tomorrow and i would like to pratice with my new Kidd rimfire rifle.

 

[oneforall]

yes, i would like to know as well, used to shoot for the monthly 100 yard rimfire competitions, missing it.

 

[Tucker301]

Shoot the 6x5. There are scoring lists for 50, 100, and 200 yards.

 

[cook1536]

Is there a challenge for the rimfire this coming month? Going out tomorrow and i would like to pratice with my new Kidd rimfire rifle.

I actually posted a target for the February challenge, first time trying to "compete", never heard results.

 

[JG26_Irish]

How about this at 50y? It is called the "Black Death Target" link to download the tgt is posted here: http://toyfj40.freeshell.org/GunPix/BlackDeath.html

The Black Death Challenge was created by John Simeone, coach of Team Top Gun at Ft. Polk, LA, whose rules are a little more formal than we'll be concerned with here. Nor does your rifle need to be anything quite so exotic as that $2,000+ Anschutz Model 1913 Super Match international freestyle rifle, but it would certainly help. According to "firstshot," a promoter and devotee of the BDT, more BDT's have been maxed with a Ruger 10/22 and a CZ 452 than any other type. "I think most people out there are average shooters like me," says firstshot, "and I definitely had to improve my shooting skills before I was able to Max the BDT. I firmly believe that for most folks just giving the BDT a serious try will make them better shots and those that stick with it long enough to actually Max the BDT will have improved their shooting skills considerably in the process. "The target was developed to improve the shooting skills of the typical squirrel hunter using their everyday squirrel rifle. That's why the weight of the rifles is limited to 10 lbs, 2 oz." So don't be embarrassed to haul out your old plinker and fire away. At the heart of the game is the Black Death Target (BDT), which consists of five square black targets with a white circle and black dot in the center -- the "good shot" area. The object of the game is the highest score you can get with five shots in the white -- 50 being the best and known as "Maxing the BDT." The trick of the game is keeping all your shots from even touching any of the surrounding black area. Any shot that touches the black renders that target invalid -- sudden BLACK DEATH! This applies only to that specific target, not the remaining targets on the paper. Nor, of course, does it apply to the black X-score center aim dot. The white circles and their points per shot are: 1½" ( 1 point ) 1" ( 3 points) ¾" ( 5 points) [SUP]5[/SUP]/[SUB]8[/SUB]" ( 7 points) ½" (10 points) The black center dot provides an aim point. When you consider the diameter of a dime is ¾", it quickly becomes apparent that holding five shots entirely inside the white of the 10-point ½" target is something beyond a cakewalk. Specifics: Five shots total per paper. The five scoring shots can be fired one at each target, all five at one target, or any desired combination -- but only five shots total on the score target. The ½" target is known as the "Max" and is worth 10 points per shot. Therefore, five good shots in it deliver a score of 50 -- and "Max the BDT." Cartridge should be .22 caliber, but centerfire varmint calibers could be used for 100-yard distances. Any type action or rifle may be used but to be squeaky clean on the rules should be limited to 10 lbs, 2 oz. Sights can be scope, open iron, peep, laser, the Hubble telescope, whatever. Positions can be prone, sitting, kneeling, offhand, benchrest, over-the-shoulder backwards, standing on your head, etc. Distance can be 50 yards. Center dots are "X" shots and can be used for tie-breaking. A .22 caliber RIG Eze-Scorer is almost essential for squeakers hovering against the black. = Black Death 1-10 = Expert 11-20 = Hawkeye 21-30 = Sniper 31-34 = Master Sniper 35-45 = Black Death Master 46-50 = Order of the White Feather the Targets: These are Adobe PDF files, which should print exactly to scale. You'll need the Adobe Acrobat Reader to view and print them. NOTE: These targets are real ink guzzlers, so you might want to print one of each and take them to Office Depot or OfficeMax to make copies for a few cents each. That's a lot cheaper than draining ridiculously overpriced ink cartridges. Be sure your printer is set to "Portrait" mode. The targets should print to scale normally on 8½x11" paper. Irish

 

[JG26_Irish]

Talk it over. 50y may be too easy for this crowd? If so, we can push it out to 75y or 100y. 5 shots inside of 1/2" is equivalent to a little bigger than 1/4" center to center groups. However, this has the extra challenge of not just putting 5 shots in the same hole but putting them where the bull is.

Irish

 

[Rhyno]

Need to buy a couple black ink cartridges for that one.

 

[Rangemaster]

Ok, question. Five shots total only add up to 26 points. Or is it five shots per circle?

 

[Hoser]

I actually posted a target for the February challenge, first time trying to "compete", never heard results.

I think the guy that started things had some family stuff come up and then the hide changed sites.

 

[JG26_Irish]

Ok, question. Five shots total only add up to 26 points. Or is it five shots per circle?

Five shots total for the entire card. You can choose to shoot them all five into the smallest bull and thus score 50pts or you can spread them out onto some of the easier bulls. However, the first shot to hit any part of the black surrounding the bull results in a total zero score for that bull. In other words if I shoot four good shots all into the same bull but my 5th shot is barely touching the black, then my score for that card is "Zero", nada. It is sort of like the know your limits target is some ways. You have to make every shot perfect or you are wiped out. It was developed to help hunters (and others) improve since a missed shot hunting means you go hungry. A missed shot sniping and you might not go home. You are also forced to assess the conditions at the range or in the field, the position your are shooting from and the accuracy potential of your rifle/ammo/optic package before you send the first shot. At 50y, I would likely go for 10pts per shot and shoot at the smallest bull unless very windy. But at 100y, I would have to carefully assess that.

At 100y, my best average was 0.493" c-c but since we are scoring worst edge on this tgt and the smallest bull is 1/2" (0.500") my best amounts to almost 3/4" edge to edge (not quite good enough). So, in my case, I would be advised to target one of the larger bulls like the 3/4" or the 1" circle. If your rifle will consistently shoot 1/4" groups center to center at 100y, you might?? be able to max out the BDT.

Here is a little bit of statistical trivia. About 21% of the 50y average scores on the past 6x5 challenge entries averaged small enough groups to consistently fit inside of a 1/2" circle. However, that is assuming the group is perfectly centered. If we could perfectly center each shot, we would shoot better already. Now closer to 60% of the shooters in that same event also posted a best group at 50y small enough to fit inside the same 1/2" circle. Meaning that out of 6 (30 shots total) attempts there would be a chance that the shooter could get all five shots into the smallest circle once out of six tries, again assuming the group is perfectly centered. I have not tried this tgt but my guess is that it is not an easy one to max out. I suggest that we run it at 50y and 100y. Some will max it at 50y but it is possible but doubtful if many or any will max it at 100y unless Yoteman can dredge up some of his magic Lapua ammo. Gauntlet is on the ground lads. Pick it up and start shooting, lol.

Irish

 

[Rangemaster]

Five shots total for the entire card. You can choose to shoot them all five into the smallest bull and thus score 50pts or you can spread them out onto some of the easier bulls. However, the first shot to hit any part of the black surrounding the bull results in a total zero score for that bull. In other words if I shoot four good shots all into the same bull but my 5th shot is barely touching the black, then my score for that card is "Zero", nada. It is sort of like the know your limits target is some ways. You have to make every shot perfect or you are wiped out. It was developed to help hunters (and others) improve since a missed shot hunting means you go hungry. A missed shot sniping and you might not go home. You are also forced to assess the conditions at the range or in the field, the position your are shooting from and the accuracy potential of your rifle/ammo/optic package before you send the first shot. At 50y, I would likely go for 10pts per shot and shoot at the smallest bull unless very windy. But at 100y, I would have to carefully assess that.

At 100y, my best average was 0.493" c-c but since we are scoring worst edge on this tgt and the smallest bull is 1/2" (0.500") my best amounts to almost 3/4" edge to edge (not quite good enough). So, in my case, I would be advised to target one of the larger bulls like the 3/4" or the 1" circle. If your rifle will consistently shoot 1/4" groups center to center at 100y, you might?? be able to max out the BDT.

Here is a little bit of statistical trivia. About 21% of the 50y average scores on the past 6x5 challenge entries averaged small enough groups to consistently fit inside of a 1/2" circle. However, that is assuming the group is perfectly centered. If we could perfectly center each shot, we would shoot better already. Now closer to 60% of the shooters in that same event also posted a best group at 50y small enough to fit inside the same 1/2" circle. Meaning that out of 6 (30 shots total) attempts there would be a chance that the shooter could get all five shots into the smallest circle once out of six tries, again assuming the group is perfectly centered. I have not tried this tgt but my guess is that it is not an easy one to max out. I suggest that we run it at 50y and 100y. Some will max it at 50y but it is possible but doubtful if many or any will max it at 100y unless Yoteman can dredge up some of his magic Lapua ammo. Gauntlet is on the ground lads. Pick it up and start shooting, lol.

Irish

hey thanks, makes sense. I will give it a try tomorrow if the weather permits.

 

[jbell]

How about this at 50y? It is called the "Black Death Target" link to download the tgt is posted here: http://toyfj40.freeshell.org/GunPix/BlackDeath.html

The Black Death Challenge was created by John Simeone, coach of Team Top Gun at Ft. Polk, LA, whose rules are a little more formal than we'll be concerned with here. Nor does your rifle need to be anything quite so exotic as that $2,000+ Anschutz Model 1913 Super Match international freestyle rifle, but it would certainly help. According to "firstshot," a promoter and devotee of the BDT, more BDT's have been maxed with a Ruger 10/22 and a CZ 452 than any other type. "I think most people out there are average shooters like me," says firstshot, "and I definitely had to improve my shooting skills before I was able to Max the BDT. I firmly believe that for most folks just giving the BDT a serious try will make them better shots and those that stick with it long enough to actually Max the BDT will have improved their shooting skills considerably in the process. "The target was developed to improve the shooting skills of the typical squirrel hunter using their everyday squirrel rifle. That's why the weight of the rifles is limited to 10 lbs, 2 oz." So don't be embarrassed to haul out your old plinker and fire away. At the heart of the game is the Black Death Target (BDT), which consists of five square black targets with a white circle and black dot in the center -- the "good shot" area. The object of the game is the highest score you can get with five shots in the white -- 50 being the best and known as "Maxing the BDT." The trick of the game is keeping all your shots from even touching any of the surrounding black area. Any shot that touches the black renders that target invalid -- sudden BLACK DEATH! This applies only to that specific target, not the remaining targets on the paper. Nor, of course, does it apply to the black X-score center aim dot. The white circles and their points per shot are: 1½" ( 1 point ) 1" ( 3 points) ¾" ( 5 points) [SUP]5[/SUP]/[SUB]8[/SUB]" ( 7 points) ½" (10 points) The black center dot provides an aim point. When you consider the diameter of a dime is ¾", it quickly becomes apparent that holding five shots entirely inside the white of the 10-point ½" target is something beyond a cakewalk. Specifics: Five shots total per paper. The five scoring shots can be fired one at each target, all five at one target, or any desired combination -- but only five shots total on the score target. The ½" target is known as the "Max" and is worth 10 points per shot. Therefore, five good shots in it deliver a score of 50 -- and "Max the BDT." Cartridge should be .22 caliber, but centerfire varmint calibers could be used for 100-yard distances. Any type action or rifle may be used but to be squeaky clean on the rules should be limited to 10 lbs, 2 oz. Sights can be scope, open iron, peep, laser, the Hubble telescope, whatever. Positions can be prone, sitting, kneeling, offhand, benchrest, over-the-shoulder backwards, standing on your head, etc. Distance can be 50 yards. Center dots are "X" shots and can be used for tie-breaking. A .22 caliber RIG Eze-Scorer is almost essential for squeakers hovering against the black. = Black Death 1-10 = Expert 11-20 = Hawkeye 21-30 = Sniper 31-34 = Master Sniper 35-45 = Black Death Master 46-50 = Order of the White Feather the Targets: These are Adobe PDF files, which should print exactly to scale. You'll need the Adobe Acrobat Reader to view and print them. NOTE: These targets are real ink guzzlers, so you might want to print one of each and take them to Office Depot or OfficeMax to make copies for a few cents each. That's a lot cheaper than draining ridiculously overpriced ink cartridges. Be sure your printer is set to "Portrait" mode. The targets should print to scale normally on 8½x11" paper. Irish

Damn that's a ball buster! Sounds like fun...

 

[Rolltide]

I've got to try this...

 

[Redkorn38]

This sounds like a great time. Where do you post you targets

 

[JG26_Irish]

Damn that's a ball buster! Sounds like fun...

Nothin like a kick in the nutz to get a guy proned out and shooting, lol. A great way to break in that new rifle. Redkorn38, just post the tgts here with your scores. I hope to give it a try later this week some time too. Should be fun. If you get a better score later, or want to try with another rifle, then post those up too.

Irish

 

[JG26_Irish]

I took a shot at the Blk Death tgt at 50y with a Sav Mkii this week. It was very windy and I only had about 20 min to play. You were right. It is a ball buster. I tried the 1/2" and 5/8" circles once or twice each and broke out both times. Both times with the 5/8" ring, the last shot was touching the black forcing a zero. Shot the 3/4" circle and scored 25pts with all 5 shots in the circle. That should be an easy mark to beat.

That group might have fit into the 5/8" circle if I had taken to time to try it a few more times but since the group is offset to the left slightly, it scores larger than it measures if that makes any sense. That is about as good as this rifle will do at 50y. That is one of the tough things about this little tgt. I know, coulda, woulda, shoulda...

I was shooting off a bipod. The Sav is bone stock and far from being my most accurate rifle, but it is what I am shooting at the moment. Time permitting, I will try it again with one of the more proven tack drivers or on a less windy day. Still unless you are printing 1/4" c-c perfectly centered groups, that 1/2" ring is gonna be a tough nut to crack. Have fun!

Irish

 

[JG26_Irish]

March Challenge Scores - Black Death Target

BDTgt 50y
1. 25pts - JG26_Irish - Savage MkII, Lapua CenterX, 46 deg F
2.
3.


BDTgt 100y
1.
2.
3.

Irish

 

[TOP PREDATOR]

check these out shot "back in the day". i'm not as active as i used to be, but whomever is can pick it up and run with them:

short range 25/50 yards
https://www.snipershide.com/shooting/forum/...e-competitions
long range 100-300 yards
https://www.snipershide.com/shooting/forum/...e-competitions

there are links in there to targets, rules, etc.

some of the fancified texts and such are jacked up, but are generally good to go with a copy and paste, or using "quote" then copying and pasting.

 

[TOP PREDATOR]

oops some broken links from above ( i think alot of the info was lost in the scout thing and with passage of time):

50 tactical rules:
https://www.snipershide.com/shootin...sh-50-yard-tactical-rimfire-competition-rules

25 / 50 yard 4 position rules:
https://www.snipershide.com/shootin...onthly-rimfire-25-50-yd-4-position-comp-rules

short range targets:
damn i think these may be lost
let me see if i can dig up the photobucket stuff


100-300 yard long range rules:
https://www.snipershide.com/shootin...-sh-rimfire-100-to-300-yard-competition-rules

long range targets:
https://www.snipershide.com/shootin...88-targets-sh-long-range-rimfire-competitions

 

[TOP PREDATOR]

50Y tactical:

 

[TOP PREDATOR]

25 / 50 Y WBM (what bugs me)

 

[TOP PREDATOR]

25/50Y 4P (left side)
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25/50Y 4P (right side)
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[TOP PREDATOR]

100Y targets:

lucky 7
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100Y 2.5 gong
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[TOP PREDATOR]

200Y targets:

LUCKY 7 200y
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A21 5RD
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[TOP PREDATOR]

300 YARD TARGETS:

MR-63 10RD LS (PORTRAIT VIEW)
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MR-63 10RD RS (PORTRAIT VIEW)
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250 YARD CAN
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[TOP PREDATOR]

we had more targets, but the above ones where used the most.

if the "new generation" of hiders are interested in resurrecting this whole thing, i'll piece together something with new threads, carrying (copying and pasting) over the old rules and stuff and tying it up in a bow, but i have to admit i'm a bit too lazy to keep up with the admin of it every month, so someone would have to carry the torch from there.

we could probably sticky too for easy finding, though i have lost touch with the moderators that used to hook me up here. it'll probably take a few clicks to find out who and if they'll do it.

suggestions to keep it simple:

do a SH SHORT RANGE 25/50Y RIMFIRE COMPETITIONS thread including these targets:

25/50Y 4P
50YTRC
25/50Y WBM

could even keep the 4 position and WBM at 25Y, TRC is wicked cool to shoot at 50.

do a SH LONG RANGE 100-300 RIMFIRE COMPETITIONS thread including these targets:

100Y LUCKY 7
100Y 2.5" SIM GONG
200Y LUCKY 7
200Y A-21 5" SIM GONG
300Y MR-63 10" SIM GONG

either keep the same round count of 25 per target shot, or even reduce to 10 each.

i'll cut out all the BS fancy text and stuff in the header, it'll make it easier to admin

up to you guys, i should be able to get this up and running for april, but again someone has to take the reigns from there.

hard to believe by looking at the dates on the original threads it's been that long ago!

 

[oneforall]

I will have more free time to shoot and posting later part of the year due to family issues. If we want, we can just post our results each month in one new post, start by anyone, rest of us can follow the same posting till a month comes, then, start with a new post. how is this sounds to you all?

 

[TOP PREDATOR]

if anyone has a link to the february or january i'll copy and paste it in a new thread, though as of today's date, perhaps forgo march and think april.

as i've been "dormant" i'm not up to speed on what rimfire challenge targets, rules, etc. you guys are running with

 

[CMH]

Not official because I did not follow the rules of how to shoot the target. It is hard to see but there is a sliver of white left in the 10 point target (Target tore due to shot out backboard at range). 5 shots on each bull (again not according to the rules). I was messing around today with how much to load bipod. Thrown shot on bigger target is due to not applying the same pressure. Shouldn't make much difference with a rimfire, but with this size of target, a little is too much. This is a cool target/challenge that honestly was much harder than I first thought it would be when I read the instructions.

 

[Muskyjerk]

Fail

 

[Rangemaster]

Here my first set of five shots, and finally my third was a failure.

 

[JG26_Irish]

Proving harder than expected. A few more days to go. Get out there... Irish