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I was up in the air on the rear, but this looks really good after seeing it with the barreled action mounted up. Just needs flat sides on the forend for the mlok slots.
And will they name it, the Centaur?
Is it just me or does the trigger-to-grip reach look a little long?
He mentions it. He basically said the way they make the grips makes it easy to customize. IDK if that means, X number of people need to request a modification before they justify making a new version or if it is literally made to order. The biggest problem I see with this is that you don't have the luxury of trying out all the different grips, thumb shelves and trigger finger offsets.Also keep in mind, since I don't remember if he mentions it in the video, the chassis design provides an opportunity for shooters to potentially in the not too distant future get custom molded grips that are made to order.
He mentions it. He basically said the way they make the grips makes it easy to customize. IDK if that means, X number of people need to request a modification before they justify making a new version or if it is literally made to order. The biggest problem I see with this is that you don't have the luxury of trying out all the different grips, thumb shelves and trigger finger offsets.
Really? That would be awesome!You're not understanding what I'm saying. Custom molded grips, as in you do an imprint at home of your hand with some kind of imprint kit, and they 3D print a custom molded grip for your hand specifically.
The grip looks to be the same as the current material, which MPA states can be shaped. The are really thick, and I have taken a decent amount of material out of them. I guess I don't understand how this really changes anything. They could simply make different grips (width, offset, distance) for the current chassis and still give shooters the option to wrap the thumb. Seems like they are trying to create a market for grips at the expense of removing those that wrap from the potential client list.
The grip looks to be the same as the current material, which MPA states can be shaped. The are really thick, and I have taken a decent amount of material out of them. I guess I don't understand how this really changes anything. They could simply make different grips (width, offset, distance) for the current chassis and still give shooters the option to wrap the thumb. Seems like they are trying to create a market for grips at the expense of removing those that wrap from the potential client list.
The current BA design doesn't allow for the front fingers to go higher up the grip and behind the triggerguard, like most chassis systems. The new Matrix now has an open area between the trigger guard and the grip allowing shooters a higher grip on the rifle, similar to some traditional stock designs, and then subsequently the ability to wrap their thumbs over.
You're not understanding what I'm saying. Custom molded grips, as in you do an imprint at home of your hand with some kind of imprint kit, and they 3D print a custom molded grip for your hand specifically.
I had a custom grip printed for my MPA and can tell you it's not cost effective to do a one off. $200+ for the right material printed.Really? That would be awesome!
I had a custom grip printed for my MPA and can tell you it's not cost effective to do a one off. $200+ for the right material printed.
Basically the right way to do it from the guys I spoke to, is to print a base grip to make a mold and you can drive your price down through molding vs printing, but the initial costs on the printing and molds don't make sense to do custom grips for everyone. I'm not an expert in this space and somebody might chime in that they can print these for $30, but that was not my experience.
My takeaway from watching the video with Phil, is that they will have more variants of the 3 main grip components for the new chassis and that shooters would be able to essentially create their own custom grip based on the number of different combinations.
whyAt 6.4 lbs, it is pretty much limited to use in competition and as a boat anchor.
That's light!cause that makes a 15lb rifle! wow, 6.4lbs is a boss hog.
That's light!
Jokes aside. I've hunted with AIs. 15-17# makes a nice range gun. Or prone gun. Or comp gun. Or do it all with a proof and lighter scope if you dont mind a little more weight.
Its only 1# more than the current BA COMP
I'm more curious how much weight you can ADD
Does anyone know the pricing on these?
Yeah i ended up seeing it last night. When i checked a few days ago they didnt have the price up yetIt’s in the mpa website
You're talking about popularity in a niche market. Precision bolt gun market is MUCH bigger than PRS. I would not be shocked at all to hear MDT sells more units than MPA overall.That's fine. Personal preference is why we have so many options in the precision world today. But to say MPA is trying to catch MDT is factually incorrect. PRB aside, go to ANY local or national precision match in the country and MPA out numbers MDT by a wide margin. And I don't mean this as a knock against MDT, they make a really good product. But looking at the pure popularity, it's not even close.
I’m rarely an early adopter but this fits the profile of what I wanted: chassis, shorter length of pull, and ability to maintain 90* trigger finger w/smaller hands. In on the pre-order.
I’m a bit worried it won’t get hand as close as AI, kmw sentinel, or A10 though.
There’s quite a bit of space between the trigger guard and the grips they have shown.
Same question.
seems to be the latest trend is getting the trigger /grip “as close as possible”.
that seems to be a long way from one to the other.
I could be wrong on both ...usually am
I have an e-mail into them asking about an ETA on this. If I hear back I will share it here.
I have an e-mail into them asking about an ETA on this. If I hear back I will share it here.
I spoke with Lisa Friday, she said 3-4 weeks
I had a custom grip printed for my MPA and can tell you it's not cost effective to do a one off. $200+ for the right material printed.
Basically the right way to do it from the guys I spoke to, is to print a base grip to make a mold and you can drive your price down through molding vs printing, but the initial costs on the printing and molds don't make sense to do custom grips for everyone. I'm not an expert in this space and somebody might chime in that they can print these for $30, but that was not my experience.
Good question..... Personally they can keep the new arse end. The longer forend however would be nice to have, along with the m-loc
"Oh you mean you cannot reach the trigger so well? Luckily we have a grip that reduces the distance in sale for $150"And will they name it, the Centaur?
Is it just me or does the trigger-to-grip reach look a little long?