Mattis ,,, a swampthing?????

[ArmyJerry]

Looking like the warrior monk is turning ut to be a warrior punk. Just another swampthing.

http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2017/09/mattis_is_no_good.html

 

[Maggot]

The swamp is deep and wide. Plenty of room for all.

 

[sirhrmechanic]

I'll argue that Mattis is working in the realm of the possible... for now.

Marines are smart. They know when to bull ahead. And they know when a slow advance is more prudent. And rather than a frontal assault at everything... they can figure out when to distract at the front while out-flanking. Bunker-clearing 101.

I don't think there are very many 'swamp things' in the current cabinet. Many of them, in fact, have been burned by the swamp and want payback. (Mattis was fired by Obama when he was handed a note during a speech/luncheon... telling him had been relieved and go away. The dirtiest firing you could image. Think he is part of the swamp that tried to destroy him???)

I think there are (with the possible exception of POTUS) folks who are in the cabinet recognize that they are running the 40 mile endurance march with full pack, not the PT-test sprint. And they'll let POTUS step on the mines... and brush himself off and move forward... while they put one foot in front of the other. So far, he'es seemed pretty mine-proof.... and what they're rolling back under the barrage of BS from the left and the press... is pretty impressive!

Give it time... And let the idiots show their true colors heading into 2018. A fillibuster-proof senate and a larger house-majority is not only possible... it's probable despite the natterings of the lefties who said we could never have a president Trump, either.

Maybe I'm too optimistic.... but I think we the people have a lot more power than the swamp. And we are tired of it.

Cheers,

Sirhr

 

[ArmyJerry]

hehehhehhahahahhahohohohohehehehhe ROTFLMAO

Bought this up because he has hired or kept on staff some pretty strident anti american POS's too, so I am wondering if initial suspicions are correct that he spent too much time in Academia. Good one though Sirh, Marines , Prudent, Slow Advance, are a series of words never before put into one sentence let alone a novel.

I'll argue that Mattis is working in the realm of the possible... for now.

Marines are smart. They know when to bull ahead. And they know when a slow advance is more prudent. And rather than a frontal assault at everything... they can figure out when to distract at the front while out-flanking. Bunker-clearing 101.

I don't think there are very many 'swamp things' in the current cabinet. Many of them, in fact, have been burned by the swamp and want payback. (Mattis was fired by Obama when he was handed a note during a speech/luncheon... telling him had been relieved and go away. The dirtiest firing you could image. Think he is part of the swamp that tried to destroy him???)

I think there are (with the possible exception of POTUS) folks who are in the cabinet recognize that they are running the 40 mile endurance march with full pack, not the PT-test sprint. And they'll let POTUS step on the mines... and brush himself off and move forward... while they put one foot in front of the other. So far, he'es seemed pretty mine-proof.... and what they're rolling back under the barrage of BS from the left and the press... is pretty impressive!

Give it time... And let the idiots show their true colors heading into 2018. A fillibuster-proof senate and a larger house-majority is not only possible... it's probable despite the natterings of the lefties who said we could never have a president Trump, either.

Maybe I'm too optimistic.... but I think we the people have a lot more power than the swamp. And we are tired of it.

Cheers,

Sirhr

 

[Gunfighter14e2]

A good tactician will lay down with the devil if required, to defeat his enemy. Many a great leader has appeared to appease their enemy but were in reality, already planning the final stages of the end game.

 

[j-huskey]

Mattis is a professional with this country's best interest at heart. needs to be more like him.

 

[oneshot86]

indeed

 

[jrassy]

Double indeed

 

[Redmanss]

That article is nothing but a poorly based and seriously biased hit piece by an oil man who perpetuates flawed science himself to further his own endeavors. He's no better than the other end of the spectrum in that accord.

 

[ArmyJerry]

I hope so RM.

 

[sirhrmechanic]

Army:

Marines are still around as a small and under funded service because they are smart. Always have been, always will be. They stay relevant through their ability to innovate... and they've done it for 200 years.

Have you ever seen the tests for Marine officers candidates? I couldn't have passed it back as a young 'un. I know... there are lots of jarhead jokes out there. Ok, there are some good ones. Like: You kill Marines by throwing sand and water against the wall and telling them to hit the beach. I get it. Mongo like candy.

But I've known a lot of them. And cerebral is a term I'd give to many of them if not most... especially the NCO's and officers. Who led the introduction of Information Operations/cyberwarfare in the DoD? Marines. Who led the the introduction of Non-lethals? Marines. Who created amphibious warfare back in the '20's when, in post-Gallipoli military thinking.... it was considered impossible? Marines. Who invented Close Air Support? Marines. Who created the scout-sniper concept in WW2? Marines. Who invented Snipers Hide Forum? Marines! The Corps has bred more innovation than its parent-service, the Navy, by a long shot. And arguably is more technologically-savvy than any branch today, save the USAF.... because the USAF sort of has to be. Otherwise they can't make the satellite TV in their lounges work.

And, yes, they aren't stupid when it comes to tactics and strategy.

I'd like to see Mattis wipe out a HUGE chunk of the DoD neocon and leftard cancer that has grown up there in the past 25 years (arguably 32 years). But he can't destroy Rome in a day. It took even the Visigoths and Vandals about 100 years to destroy Rome. I bet a Marine can do it in a couple of years, though. Less time if he can call in the Marines!

Cheers,

Sirhr

 

[ArmyJerry]

I didn't mention intelligence at all, however, if you feel that needs defending have at it.

Amphibious warfare, Trenton/Delaware - US Army. US Army have far more and much larger Combat Amphibious landings by far than the USMC.

I'll stop here with fact vs fiction as this is a Mattis specific query in the op.

 

[sirhrmechanic]

I'll give the army the larger ones... but the USMC had some 200 D-Day's in the Pacific during WW2. Some very big. And while McArthur's army units also chewed a lot of dirt and shed a lot of blood in the Pacific, by sheer numbers, it was a Marine war.

And Army Africa, Sicily, Italy and Normandy tactics were based on Marine's doctrine. Pete Ellis and Thomas Holcomb... among others. There is a reason that Marines were on Ike's staff, despite it being an Army operation. We won't bring up the British. Dieppe sucked. Especially for the Rangers who were there. And paid badly for bad British theories.

Army is no slouch on any front. And since I spent a great deal of time working with Army units in various oddball capacities... I have great loyalty there. Probably greatest loyalty. But Marines get my vote for the innovators! Of course, that's just me. I'm probably wrong.

Cheers, Sirhr

 

[ArmyJerry]

Like I said above,the Army was doing amphib while the marines were still hanging out down river in that Philly bar. Not in scale nor in number do they even come close to the Armys experience and and actual history, not at all.even in WW2, the Army conducted many more landings and much larger ones too. By sheer numbers it was an Army war in the Pacific, scale size and battles fought enemies killed and land taken. Phillipines alone was more land taken than the Marines of all theaters of WW2. Ill leave it at that as we have some very thin sinned leathernecks around.

Now, back to Mattis.

 

[thejeep]

I read the first paragraph about global warming. Idiot

The climate is dynamic. Ak used to be the tropics, then it got really fucking cold, then it got warmer. Climate is changing. We could all help by fucking up the earth less.

 

[WATERWALKER]

AJ, why are you always hating on the Marine Corps? Look, Marines say "Oohrah (pronounced in a guttural tone)" & the Army says "Hooahh?" Do you know why? It's because when the Army says "Oohrah" it has a cock in it's mouth & it sounds more like "Hooah."

I bear no ill will towards my Army brothers in green. I respect y'all immensely. Maybe AJ would be a bit happier if Gen. Mattis would sell out to the left-tards like the Army's Colin Powell.

Rant over.

 

[Gunfighter14e2]

AJ, why are you always hating on the Marine Corps? Look, Marines say "Oohrah (pronounced in a guttural tone)" & the Army says "Hooahh?" Do you know why? It's because when the Army says "Oohrah" it has a cock in it's mouth & it sounds more like "Hooah."

I bear no ill will towards my Army brothers in green. I respect y'all immensely. Maybe AJ would be a bit happier if Gen. Mattis would sell out to the left-tards like the Army's Colin Powell.

Rant over.

Powell (like many) was nothing more than a wind checker, from first oath to the only thing he ever worked for,... secure/fat retirement.

 

[ArmyJerry]

I respect the hell outta the USMC, they do great things with the table scraps they get from the Navy, they have a great actual history but they do a huge disservice when they overly exaggerate myth and repeat myth as fact while trying to make it greater than it really is. Civilians actually believe your circus leader bullshit. I actually do love the Marines and am probably the only Army guy that thinks they should be funded better, just get rolled into the Army, or disbanded all together.

Colin Powell as most of the field grade officers in my life time is a POS. I had higher hope for Marttis and McMaster, I am about done with McMaster and about done with Mattis from what I seen so far.

AJ, why are you always hating on the Marine Corps? Look, Marines say "Oohrah (pronounced in a guttural tone)" & the Army says "Hooahh?" Do you know why? It's because when the Army says "Oohrah" it has a cock in it's mouth & it sounds more like "Hooah."

I bear no ill will towards my Army brothers in green. I respect y'all immensely. Maybe AJ would be a bit happier if Gen. Mattis would sell out to the left-tards like the Army's Colin Powell.

the army hoooa i think is new, we either said yes no or use our kill yell, the marines, well they are marines, they cant even pronounce left or right properly I dont know what the fk they are saying half the time anyway.

Rant over.

 

[WATERWALKER]

I'm w/ on McMaster. That guy is definitely a Muslim sympathizer. McMaster is as weak as anyone in the Obama administration was on radical Islamic terrorism. Fuck that guy.

I still have faith in Mattis. I don't doubt him at all. While I may not agree w/ every single decision he makes, I'm still rooting for him. I am a huge fan of Reagan too, yet I didn't agree w/ every decision or political appointment he made either.

The USMC surely needs better funding. Amen. As far as integrating w/ the Army, no. I believe Bill Clinton thought along the same lines. Just saying...

 

[pmclaine]

One does not reach General grade without eating some political sausage.

Time will tell which brand brand of meat Mattis liked better.

Apparantly his failure to bloviate on the Obama brand lead to his retirement. I'd say he has an ax to grind with the swamp.


Regards rolling the Marines into the Army that matter has been determined...

"The bended knee is not a tradition of our Corps....."

 

[ArmyJerry]

As an extra constitutional paramilitary force like the AirForce and the USCG, the existence of the USMC will never be set in stone. I am for keeping them as is though, they serve a purpose, they need better funding than having to suck navy creamsicles every year.