McCain is no more.

[Unknown]

While I may have disagreed with many of his political decisions, he did at least one thing deserving of respect:

In 1968, less than a year after his Navy bomber was shot down, the imprisoned McCain was abruptly offered unconditional release by the North Vietnamese, perhaps because his father had just been named the commander of U.S. forces in the Pacific. McCain was still badly crippled from his crash and the poor medical treatment that followed, yet he adhered to the P.O.W. code of honor and refused to be repatriated ahead of American prisoners who had been in captivity longer than he. His refusal was adamant. His guard told him, “Now, McCain, it will be very bad for you.” He was tortured for his defiance, and ultimately spent more than two years in solitary confinement. The abuse, combined with the after-effects of his injuries, left him physically marked. He could have avoided it all, but out of loyalty and—one has to name it—love for his comrades, he chose not to.

 

[Deleted member 10043]

Or he was already brainwashed into believing that he was going to be court martialed and shot by a US Navy firing squad. His captors version of fake news.

 

[_Windrider_]

While I may have disagreed with many of his political decisions, he did at least one thing deserving of respect:

In 1968, less than a year after his Navy bomber was shot down, the imprisoned McCain was abruptly offered unconditional release by the North Vietnamese, perhaps because his father had just been named the commander of U.S. forces in the Pacific. McCain was still badly crippled from his crash and the poor medical treatment that followed, yet he adhered to the P.O.W. code of honor and refused to be repatriated ahead of American prisoners who had been in captivity longer than he. His refusal was adamant. His guard told him, “Now, McCain, it will be very bad for you.” He was tortured for his defiance, and ultimately spent more than two years in solitary confinement. The abuse, combined with the after-effects of his injuries, left him physically marked. He could have avoided it all, but out of loyalty and—one has to name it—love for his comrades, he chose not to.

Lots of military “heroes” turn out to be complete douchebags in their after life. Rob O’Neill comes to mind. Again, his politics sucked. I have no comment on his military service.

 

[RTH1800]

You guys are too rough on poor old JM. The guy never screwed you or stabbed you in the back unless it really mattered. Sarcasm

If you are in doubt where his loyalties were look at who is worshipping him now. Trump should not have backdown on the flag issue.

 

[kortik]

While I may have disagreed with many of his political decisions, he did at least one thing deserving of respect:

In 1968, less than a year after his Navy bomber was shot down, the imprisoned McCain was abruptly offered unconditional release by the North Vietnamese, perhaps because his father had just been named the commander of U.S. forces in the Pacific. McCain was still badly crippled from his crash and the poor medical treatment that followed, yet he adhered to the P.O.W. code of honor and refused to be repatriated ahead of American prisoners who had been in captivity longer than he. His refusal was adamant. His guard told him, “Now, McCain, it will be very bad for you.” He was tortured for his defiance, and ultimately spent more than two years in solitary confinement. The abuse, combined with the after-effects of his injuries, left him physically marked. He could have avoided it all, but out of loyalty and—one has to name it—love for his comrades, he chose not to.

Nobody (except may be for an extremely limited circle of people) really knows exactly what he's done, be it "out of respect" or just out of a plain stupidity, or because of some, mentioned above, P.O.W. code of honor. BTW, does anybody with practical experience want to share what exactly is P.O.W. code of honor other than trying to escape and join the fight again, and I've never heard any stories about escape attempts by this guy.

The simple fact is that as the American P.O.W. with connections, he was a sort of "hard currency" for NV (and, by extension, for the USSR), and a serious liability for the U.S., and it would be a lot more productive and logical if he could have been released ASAP and stopped being a liability for his country.

 

[Unknown]

Unfortunately, I have to agree with Kortik in as much as all POW's are a liability to the USA, and are just pawns to be used in war...just as any people in the military are pawns that even the country that they love and fight for will move them around, and use them as they see fit. That is just the nature of war.

Some are more expendable than others, while some are more useful than others. Some cost more to train and along with their expensive equipment are evaluated on a cost/benefit basis. It is horrible to think that a human life is evaluated on a risk/cost/benefit basis, just as a tire, tank, ship, aircraft , or any other bit of equipment is, but that is the frank reality of war and the military.

The government, and military tries really hard to hide the whole risk/cost/benefit part of war because of likely public backlash if they openly admit that people and equipment are all evaluated on a risk/cost/benefit basis.

 

[ArmyJerry]

he was more of a liability since he has been released, he was such a liability I think he was weaponized in captivity, weaponized against the USA, Hope he is rotting right now, he got off easy that fucuking bastard.

Nobody (except may be for an extremely limited circle of people) really knows exactly what he's done, be it "out of respect" or just out of a plain stupidity, or because of some, mentioned above, P.O.W. code of honor. BTW, does anybody with practical experience want to share what exactly is P.O.W. code of honor other than trying to escape and join the fight again, and I've never heard any stories about escape attempts by this guy.

The simple fact is that as the American P.O.W. with connections, he was a sort of "hard currency" for NV (and, by extension, for the USSR), and a serious liability for the U.S., and it would be a lot more productive and logical if he could have been released ASAP and stopped being a liability for his country.

 

[Decoy]

I understand that he deserves some respect for his service but I deserve another shot of Jack!

 

[Deleted member 10043]

Give me a Yugoslavian flag and a staff of just three and I'll have any one of you hallucinating your momma dying on the cross in less then 24 hours carrying your last night shit in a coffee can while blindfolded, lol.

 

[RTH1800]

I’m so sick of hearing the demorats praise him I ALMOST wish he were alive...
well not really.