Fieldcraft Measurements

[MilDot1960]

G'day everyone,

I have come up against a few problems regarding measurements, So I need to ask if anyone knows why when the US Military quote distance they quote klicks, Clicks or Meters & Yards

Then that brings me to the Mildot system most scopes have MOA Turrets yet some have Mrads and I have spent hundreds of hours this past few months working with numbers and the differant systems and now my brains are totally fried, because the MOA are imperial and Mrads are metric yet America generally use's the Imperial system??
So why do US Snipers use Mrads but Hgin for pressure yet the Wind in MPH etc etc,

because I have Ballistics programs that can be set to suit either way and I have A Kestrel which I got today and I have always done it old school, I want to know which setting to use so I can do everything the US Military way although I am use to the Metic system when I shoot I always refer to inches, yards and miles.
I can shoot as good as the next guy but since I came of here then problem of two systems has totally stuffed my judgement as I find that now i am always trying to convert everything,

I even managed to workout a simple formula to convert up hill distances to correct POI, and because I involved the metic system I have now forgot the very simple Math that did away with doing Trig,

So if any of you US Military Snipers could jump in too I'd be greatfull because I've hit a brick wall with it now,

Blessin's John

 

[varmint slayer]

Brace yourself...this could get brutal...

This has been beaten to death 10x over so don't be surprised when you catch a ton of shit...

Do some searching on the site and you will find the answers you are looking for.

And FYI Mrad isn't a metric measurement but rather and angular measurement....

 

[MilDot1960]

Thankyou Very much Gentlemen, for your Replies,

I was told that the Mrad system was Metric because the Turrets were in 0.1 increments So thankyou for clearing that up for me this would explain why the person who told me this was saying that 0.1 Mrad was equal to 1 cm at 100 meters which is why I thought it was a metric system,

My goal is to just do everything the US Military way because My views are that these guy are brilliant at their craft and I want to do it the same way, Much respect to you Guys

Thanks again, John

 

[MilDot1960]

DFOOSKING, thankyou for clearing that up for me, As I prefer the MilDot system I am replacing everything to Military spec's

So are the Military using Mil/Mil scopes or MOA/MOA

At my age I should have had this all squared away but since I mixed the two systems I have made a Rod for my own back, Right so if is set all my gadits to the US system then Life will be good again, Yes

Thankyou again, John

 

[MilDot1960]

If US military spec rifles is your thing Mil/Mil is the way to go.

Technically some units in some branches of the military still field Mil/Moa scopes...but I'd go up to date and get a Mil/Mil setup.

Fair warning....the scopes the military run are often quite expensive even though they fall short on options at times. Say, the 3-12 S&B the Marines use is good money considering you can get S&B's or Premier's with in the 5-25X range for relatively the same cost.

Price you pay for having Gucci gear.

Also, some scopes fall under ITAR restrictions regarding export....so you need to see if they are even available to you.

Yes DFOOSKING, I have already come up against the ITAR issue with trying to get hold of a pair of Steiners 8x30s m22, so I managed to buy the Navigator 7x30s but I wanted some Binoculars with the MilDot Reticle and just by chance I managed to find a dealer selling the Leupold mark 4s 10x50s which although they are fantastic I miss the Steiner focus system and the molly case is the best case I have come across,

No doubt the S&B Scopes or Premier are one of if not the best but over here they charge like a wounded Bull for them, and I have just seen a used/second hand Vectronix PLRF10 on AI's web page for $5250,00 which is a little steep for my taste,

But you are right about the used S&Bs I might see what is around and thankyou I will go for the Mil/Mil set up, even since WWII its a well known fact in Australia that the US Military always had the best gear although they might of not thought so, but like the M40s and the AR platform they have worked very well for many years as each new Version comes out,

thanks again John