Mighty Armory Full length sizing die

[One1Bravo]

I just ordered a Mighty Armory 6.5 Creedmoor sizing die. They now make a “-.005 HS” die which after talking to Wayne, seems to be their normal Gold Match die that has .005” taken off the bottom to allow you bump the shoulder more than the standard Gold Match die.

While I am not dissatisfied with the results I get from my honed Forsters, I am hoping for equal or better results and smoother operation of the Mighty Armory Gold Match FL -.005 HS die. I’ll post more when I get a chance to use it.

John

Mighty Armory GOLD MATCH 6.5 Creedmoor FLHS -.000- .005 Sizing Decapping Die

Achieve precision in every shot with the Mighty Armory GOLD MATCH 6.5 Creedmoor. This sizing die comes with a decapping shaft and pin for accurate results.

www.mightyarmory.com

Any updates?

 

[BullzeyeNJ]

I'm about to buy a .308 Win MA die to use in a Forster Co-Ax with Lapua brass. Have any of you had issues with the shoulder not being bumped back with this die in the Co-Ax? I'm slowly moving away from my RCBS dies and the X-Die I'm currently using won't even touch the shoulder in the co-ax but works just fine in the Rock Chucker. Thanks.

No problems with my MA dies bumping the shoulder back in my Co-ax.

 

[Ocean_Dweller]

No problems with my MA dies bumping the shoulder back in my Co-ax.

Did you buy the regular die or the .000-.005+ that they offer?

 

[BullzeyeNJ]

Did you buy the regular die or the .000-.005+ that they offer?

Regular die

 

[Hondo64d]

Any updates?

Went back to my honed Forster die. Produces a Little less runout than the MA for me. While the MA has a nicer finish, it just sits on the shelf now.

John

 

[padom]

My experience is the complete opposite. My stack of honed Forster have been collecting dust for a year now. My MA produces less runout.

 

[Hondo64d]

I had high hopes for it but it just didn’t turn out that way.

John

 

[Schütze]

I had high hopes for it but it just didn’t turn out that way.

John

padom, hondo64d what press did you guys use to come to your conclusion? Just trying to make sense of your opposite results. Thank you, Tor

 

[Hondo64d]

padom, hondo64d what press did you guys use to come to your conclusion? Just trying to make sense of your opposite results. Thank you, Tor

Forster Coax.

John

 

[padom]

Dillon 550c with Whidden floating die toolheads and the UniqueTek toolhead clamp kit..

 

[Cascade Hemi]

Forster Coax.

John

Try a different split ring and check your results again.

 

[Hondo64d]

Try a different split ring and check your results again.

This was using the Forster ring. Satisfied with the results from the Forster dies, so not pursuing it any further.

John

 

[Cascade Hemi]

This was using the Forster ring. Satisfied with the results from the Forster dies, so not pursuing it any further.

John

Die rings are $.50 parts and that is a known issue with the CoAx. I get effectively zero run out with MA dies and a Zero and RCBS press.

FWIW, my last Forster die was made incorrectly and Forster refused to make it right. It ended up in the trash after multiple trips back to Forster.

 

[Choid]

What is the difference between the regular and -.005 dies? Looking for sizing dies for 223 and 308 semi auto use.

 

[Cascade Hemi]

What is the difference between the regular and -.005 dies? Looking for sizing dies for 223 and 308 semi auto use.

.005.

 

[Choid]

Thanks. Is it just a .005 shorter die body so you can size down further for tight chambers, or am I missing something here?

 

[padom]

Thanks. Is it just a .005 shorter die body so you can size down further for tight chambers, or am I missing something here?

Yes, exactly. I have no issues sizing brass with my regular MA dies....

 

[FLIGHT762]

I had no sizing issues with the 223 M/A die, it bumped shoulders perfectly, but the 308 M/A die I bought wouldn't bump brass back to 1.630". I had to send the die in and had it skimmed .008". Works fine now. I don't see a downside to ordering the -.005" die over the regular since you set your die to fired brass. The -.005" is there if you need it.

My 308 die was made before the there was an option to buy a -.005" die.

If I ever order another M/A die, it will be a -.005" option.

They are nicely made dies. The decapping pins are great.

 

[Cascade Hemi]

MA has 6GT sizing dies.

 

[want to be]

For what it's worth, After reading all the reviews I ordered two FL die one 223 and one 6.5 CM from Mighty Armory. Talked with Wayne on the phone for I had a question. He said they were in stock and I understood that they may even ship that day for he said pick-ups were at 4:00 clock and if not the next day and I would get notified when shipped. I have E-mailed two times requesting the ship date and tracking #, two phone calls, can't leave a message for his mailbox is full. It has been over a week and yet haven't heard from him, All only have good things to say about his Dies I sure hope that they are better than his customer service. Don't know the man, just my two cents.

 

[Choid]

His customer service with me has been superb. I like some of the dies, especially the rifle dies. The pistol dies much less. But the service is peerless.

 

[padom]

Ive never had a problem with Wayne, hes been great. I know they are running full capacity trying to keep up with cranking out dies just like every other gun part manufacturer..... Youll get it, I wouldnt worry.

 

[Cascade Hemi]

For what it's worth, After reading all the reviews I ordered two FL die one 223 and one 6.5 CM from Mighty Armory. Talked with Wayne on the phone for I had a question. He said they were in stock and I understood that they may even ship that day for he said pick-ups were at 4:00 clock and if not the next day and I would get notified when shipped. I have E-mailed two times requesting the ship date and tracking #, two phone calls, can't leave a message for his mailbox is full. It has been over a week and yet haven't heard from him, All only have good things to say about his Dies I sure hope that they are better than his customer service. Don't know the man, just my two cents.

There's been a couple of posts similar to yours. I get the impression Wayne isn't the best at customer service. With that said, I placed a order last night and have tracking today.

 

[want to be]

Hemi, That's great, That all that I wanted, just to let me know.

 

[want to be]

Received today, Cleaned, and ready to go. I have one question. The instruction says contact shell plate then you can add cam over if you so choose. I am using a RCBS SS and it does cam over. How are others setting it up with the RCBS? Thanks

 

[padom]

Received today, Cleaned, and ready to go. I have one question. The instruction says contact shell plate then you can add cam over if you so choose. I am using a RCBS SS and it does cam over. How are others setting it up with the RCBS? Thanks

Set it up like any other die...to bump the shoulder back .001-.005 depending if it's a gasser or bolt gun....

 

[CK1.0]

Received today, Cleaned, and ready to go. I have one question. The instruction says contact shell plate then you can add cam over if you so choose. I am using a RCBS SS and it does cam over. How are others setting it up with the RCBS? Thanks

I didn't have the greatest experience with a Mighty Armory sizing die and it was pretty much due to what you described... after speaking with Wayne, well, let's just say that not everybody agrees on what exactly "cam over" actually means... when he says "cam over" I think he means torque the shell plate a little, like you'd do on a Dillon, screw down to the shell plate, then a little extra, doesn't really work like that on a single-stage, can't really flex a little steel shell holder much.

I had to remove materiel from the face of a shell holder in order to achieve a shoulder bump, but without access to a proper machine, I had to do it caveman style with sandpaper and a flat level surface, but you can't be off by more than a degree or few, or else all your rounds will come out leaning over like the Tower of Pisa and your brass is kinda all slightly fucked (ask me how I know, and I say only slightly fucked because it fire-forms out on the next firing, but taking a well cultivated batch of brass and "tweaking it" for a cycle is probably not the greatest if you can avoid it).

In the end I just went back to a known-quantity L.E. Wilson bushing die. IMHO Wayne is legit with his stuff when it comes to progressive press applications (like automated) and loading for pistols and semi-autos/gassers, but having talked to him, I got the sense that bolt-gun/single-stag/precision type stuff is not really his area of expertise.

Just sayin', I still like MA's stuff, just didn't work for me for the bolt gun. YMMV

 

[Choid]

I didn't have the greatest experience with a Mighty Armory sizing die and it was pretty much due to what you described... after speaking with Wayne, well, let's just say that not everybody agrees on what exactly "cam over" actually means... when he says "cam over" I think he means torque the shell plate a little, like you'd do on a Dillon, screw down to the shell plate, then a little extra, doesn't really work like that on a single-stage, can't really flex a little steel shell holder much.

I had to remove materiel from the face of a shell holder in order to achieve a shoulder bump, but without access to a proper machine, I had to do it caveman style with sandpaper and a flat level surface, but you can't be off by more than a degree or few, or else all your rounds will come out leaning over like the Tower of Pisa and your brass is kinda all slightly fucked (ask me how I know, and I say only slightly fucked because it fire-forms out on the next firing, but taking a well cultivated batch of brass and "tweaking it" for a cycle is probably not the greatest if you can avoid it).

In the end I just went back to a known-quantity L.E. Wilson bushing die. IMHO Wayne is legit with his stuff when it comes to progressive press applications (like automated) and loading for pistols and semi-autos/gassers, but having talked to him, I got the sense that bolt-gun/single-stag/precision type stuff is not really his area of expertise.

Just sayin', I still like MA's stuff, just didn't work for me for the bolt gun. YMMV

I think this is about right. In fact, any rifle stuff here that gets prepped on a Dillon is done with MA dies.

I don't like his pistol dies, as I have said. I think he is trying to solve the right problem, which is that pistol reloads are so far from SAAMI spec that it is a joke, but the problem is that you can't do it with better dies, because dies are what cause the problem, so his solutions lead to other issues. They aren't worse than most other dies, they just have different problems.

 

[CK1.0]

I think this is about right. In fact, any rifle stuff here that gets prepped on a Dillon is done with MA dies.

I don't like his pistol dies, as I have said. I think he is trying to solve the right problem, which is that pistol reloads are so far from SAAMI spec that it is a joke, but the problem is that you can't do it with better dies, because dies are what cause the problem, so his solutions lead to other issues. They aren't worse than most other dies, they just have different problems.

Yeah, he's just coming at it from a different perspective... his decapping dies, specifically on automated Dillon's and Mark 7's, is kind of what "put him on the map", very different thing...

Oddly, or maybe not so oddly, if you speak to him, that's also probably why he's a little bonkers about proud of the decapping function of his sizing dies... I told him most bolt gun guys (including me) don't even care about or even use the decapping feature in our sizing dies, and that most of us decap our precision stuff first as an initial step before cleaning and he was like "Really? No way... weird."

I was like "Man, some crazy benchrest dudes treat their brass better than their children, they don't decap and size at the same time like some kind of neanderthal."

He's a good shit though. His machining and quality of materials is excellent.

 

[Tokay444]

I could never get mine to work.
In order to bump the shoulder .002 thou I had to cut .020” off the shell holder.
Once I could bump the shoulders, I couldn’t eliminate the shoulder sooting. Never had soot on the shoulders with any other die setup with the same load in the same chamber. Switched back to Redding. MA collects dust.

 

[padom]

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[Hondo64d]

Went back to my honed Forster die. Produces a Little less runout than the MA for me. While the MA has a nicer finish, it just sits on the shelf now.

John

Wanted to update this with my latest experience with a Mighty Armory sizer. I managed to stick a case in my honed Forster. Tried to remove it myself and buggered it up doing so, so was in need of another 6.5 CM sizer. Mighty Armory had them in stock, so I got a -.005 sizer. I’m now using a MEC press, another story, but extremely pleased with it so far. Just sized about 110 Alpha cases using Hornady Unique case lube. Almost all of them showed significantly less than .001” runout at the neck, with most being .0006” or less. Very pleased with these results so will continue using this die. Also corresponded with Wayne about a .22GT sizer and he said they would be adding this and other cartridges this summer. Looking forward to that.

John

 

[Wizard1183]

I find it’s a great die.